Vuelta stage 10 *spoiler*
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Valverde is up there isn't he?0
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Yeah, excuse my shit ids today. Roche it is not but ValverdeContador is the Greatest0
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Nibs attacks, Basso bridges and goes to the front.
34 secs to Horner who has not sat down yet...
Moreno with Nieve and SamuContador is the Greatest0 -
Seems to me that Horner's lack of racing has left him fresher than the others ... Even Basso is at the sharp end ..0
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Horner looks very very relaxed.0
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Roche being dropped again.0
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Nibali attacks!0
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47' to Horner0
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Basso taking it to them
Now Nibali attacks very strongly and manages to get a 50 m gap
Horner unbelievably at 48secsContador is the Greatest0 -
Nibs has 100m on the chasers but is 45 sec behind horner0
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Nibs blows away his rivals but Horner increases the gap on him...0
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And yes it was Roche in the group as well as Valverde.Contador is the Greatest0
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Shame the 3rd group is just pacing to limit losses ... Good stuff from the 2 up front and Horner sticking it to the BR faithful ... Get in!!!0
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Horner wins it by 48 secs from Nibs who is 10 secs ahead of the chasing 40
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Well, what can you say. A very entertaining last 40ks with an unbelievable end. Very, very impressive from Horner but I cannot belive that he can drop some serious heavyweights who were going well and drop them comprehensively, staying out the saddle so long, all at the age of 41. I hope the organisers do the works on him.
Good looking top ten though. Basso moves to 4th. Valverde 3rd and JRod 5th. Nice to see Pinot up there and Majka did well and is in the top ten. Pleased for Roche. Moreno got pumped for over two mins.Contador is the Greatest0 -
JRod & Valv did the Tour and Nibs is a bit of an unknown after a long break.. Horner is usually pretty consistent and up there in the climbs. He still sounds like he's concussed in interviews though....0
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Am sure we can rely on Spanish ADA to swoop in with their usual rigour.... ah.
CH just stuffed the guy who stuffed everyone at the Giro, plus a J-Rod (3 GT podiums in last 14 months) and Valverde, who was probably close to podium-ing at the Tour but for his time loss on the Echelon day. Oh and he's nearly 42 and not raced for several months.
Hmmmmm......0 -
Great great performance by Horner! He didn't sit down for 3km. Almost forgot that he sounds more feminine than Evans too. His Spanish was funny.
Nibali looked good. Valverde and Rodriguez were too busy with each other.0 -
Serious question to a couple of the latest posters: how did you feel when Froome's attacks in the tour were being questioned?0
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Froome had 2 GT podiums prior to the Tour and had raced at a high level all year. And isn't 42.
But to answer the question it was sad but necessary probably given the history of the sport. Let's hope CH gets the same treatment from all the Journos covering the Vuelta... level playing field and all that.0 -
cesco wrote:Serious question to a couple of the latest posters: how did you feel when Froome's attacks in the tour were being questioned?
Lets be a bit objective here. Froome is in his 20's and at the start of the traditionally prime years for a cyclist.
Horner is 42, no-one really thinks he rode those Tours of Cali clean, he has as much "souplesse" as Hilda Ogden on a Raleigh Shopper. [Edit] Just realised that Froome is no better on the last point! [Edit]
None of the above points are evidence of anything
Coach H. (Dont ask me for training advice - 'It's not about the bike')0 -
Coach H wrote:cesco wrote:Serious question to a couple of the latest posters: how did you feel when Froome's attacks in the tour were being questioned?
Lets be a bit objective here. Froome is in his 20's and at the start of the traditionally prime years for a cyclist.
Horner is 42, no-one really thinks he rode those Tours of Cali clean, he has as much "souplesse" as Hilda Ogden on a Raleigh Shopper. [Edit] Just realised that Froome is no better on the last point! [Edit]
None of the above points are evidence of anything
Thanks. I actually meant it as a call for objectivity. I am not saying that either (or neither) of them doped. I don't necessarily like Horner. Nor Froome, but I think you got that
. I just think that you could make a that he didn't dope and it would be as strong as the other side of the argument. In the end it's going to be the believers against pointed fingers. That's when I still (naively) feel anyone should be innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around. 0 -
Horner's been a minor player in the hillier stages of stage races for a good few years now ... Started racing later than most and has gas in the tank ... Froome has went from a nobody to one of the main GT contenders for the last 24 months ...
The Vuelta is a tough race, you have to be fresh to win it ... Only AC has managed 2 GT's in a year since Big Mig ... and we know the jigsaw pieces that make up the AC puzzle ... So Horner riding away on a couple of stages from other riders who have been at the fighting end (or tried to be) of this years GT's and other stage races is hardly a shock ...0 -
42, never been anything but an average climber, dropping athletes in their best ages, been mentioned as epo user - which probably explains his love for the omerta - and speaks an annoyingly american accent.
Horner can sod off for all I care. Not buying this win one bit.0 -
An extraordinary performance, regardless of age.
What stood out for me was when Nibali put him his explosive attack, Horner had 45 seconds.
Having put the big effort in several kms earlier, I expected Nibali to cut Horner's lead in half.
This being the norm.
Instead, turning over his sizeable gear, and without showing any fatigue, Chris managed to eke out another 3 seconds on him and 15 or so on the chasers.
But of course, his age has to be factored in.
The phony war ended today, I just hope it wasn't replaced by another phony......
Is my objective opinion."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Good stage for the nutters
https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/3 ... 4450523136
So remember fans, if you believe Froome you must believe this...Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Hard to believe.0
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What a great final climb, brutally steep without the freak show nature of something like the Angliru. Fantastic long range attack for the win. Now I should be sat here having enjoyed one of the best GT stages this year but all I've got is a headache from raising my eyebrows so much and I'm usually one of the least cynical posters on here with the attitude that even after all we've seen in the past we need to give the benefit of the doubt unless there's at least some circumstantial evidence. One top 10 GC finish in 10 GT starts, no stage wins, a dodgy past and yet at an age when most pros are 5 years or so into their retirement he is suddenly blitzing some of the best climbers in the world. Nibalis attack looked savage and left the rest for dead but he never really gained on Horner who didn't even look like he was riding hard. It's got me questioning not just this performance but my belief / optimism that the worst days are behind us. Or maybe I'm unfair and Horner was the outstanding rider of his generation robbed by people who responded better to doping!0
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I hope he is clean for the good of the sport! Does raise eyebrows without a doubt but we can't use the past as context for relative abilities because of all the doping.
I'm sure Horner did dope in the past (like so many others). Maybe if none of them had been he would have been an exceptional talent rather than just an elite rider with some wins.
Face it, going strong at nearly 42 is pretty exceptional beyond just the result of dope.0
