Orange 5 - A recreational bike only?
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lostboysaint wrote:If you think that you had a revelation when you rode the 5 then wait until you ride a modern full susser
Suggest me a model and I'll demo it
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HebdenBiker wrote:lostboysaint wrote:If you think that you had a revelation when you rode the 5 then wait until you ride a modern full susser
Suggest me a model and I'll demo it
nukeproof mega tr, I really like the look of that.
santa cruz heckler or bronson0 -
a piece of scafolding...0
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welshkev wrote:ej2320 wrote:There's no such thing as an enduro specific bike. It's become standard that 160mm is enduro, no more no less. The reality is most people would be just as fast on a 130mm bike as only the pros can really use that extra 30mm well.
A test was carried out once 3 people, Novice, experience and pro
2 bikes, a 100mm FS bike and a DH bike
On the DH track only the pro was actually any quicker with the DH specific bike ....
pahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
is all I have to say on that.
I have ridden my 100mm travel hardtail (I don't have it now, but when I did) down cwmcarn DH track, I've also ridden my 140mm full suss down cwmcarn DH track, I've also ridden my DH bike down cwmcarn DH track....take a guess which one I was quickest on....um........
I would agree with that. I have a 100mm full sus xc bike and a dh specific bike. The DH bike is so much faster and easier to ride fast. I cant see how anyone could find a 100mm xc bike faster on a downhill track.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Fourth road bridge.....
More seriously, try a Pivot Mach 5.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
Transition Bandit.Trail fun - Transition Bandit
Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
Allround - Cotic Solaris0 -
Erm...RockmonkeySC wrote:I would take a Five over a 160mm bike for gravity enduro. The courses just arent enough for a bike that big.0 -
Take no notice of any of them, demo as many as you can and ride what you like best / can afford, regardless of brand.(MTBing has so many brand snobs it's un-real).
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I'm not old I'm Retro0 -
For an all round bike, 5" is a good idea. It will be great at trail centre type stuff and decent at xc and gnarlier stuff. I would only go bigger if you want to do a lot of gnarly stuff (ie down rocky mountains) and DH. I often choose my HT over my 6" for trail centres but would prefer something in between. I would get a beefier fork than a Fox 32 though. The components on Orange and Canyon are at opposite ends of the value for money spectrum.
And there is no way an experienced rider is as fast on a 100mm bike as on a DH bike on a decent DH track.0 -
just go test ride some stuff..
Commencal, Lappiere, Mondraker as much as you can.0 -
Thewaylander wrote:just go test ride some stuff..
Commencal, Lappiere, Mondraker as much as you can.
Or even some of the lesd common brands such as Giant, Specialized, Trek and Cannondale.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
lostboysaint wrote:Transition Bandit.
Yes!0 -
Maybe it's worth asking yourself what you will be doing most....
If your mainly racing then maybe there are better choices than a 5.
If your mainly doing trails etc with a few races here and there than maybe a 5 is better.0 -
riche0 wrote:If your mainly doing trails etc with a few races here and there than maybe a 5 is better.
This ^^ I guess.
I appreciate everyone's suggestions for bikes (and thanks Orange haters for restraining yourselves!). Have had a look at Nukeproof and Commencal - both pretty specific machines with single chainring which I can't use due to Q Factor issues. Pivot Mach 5.7 - nice - but same price as a 5 but without CTD shock.
It's still between the 5 and the Canyon Strive AL 8.0 which looks like fantastic value. And although I won't be able to sit on one before buying, with the fork shortened to 140mm and the shock set to "climb", it surely can be no worse than a 5 up the hills. Can it?
...but the 5 is NICE...
...and versatile...
...but I'll probably like whatever I buy...
...I don't know enough about bikes to tell the difference between them anyway...
...still no closer to choosing...0 -
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HebdenBiker wrote:
The Mondeo of the trail centre.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Ok will post this carefully.
In MY experience having ridden a five and a zesty the zesty is a way better ride climbing better and far more supple on the back than the 5 for descending.0 -
Saracen 16X frame set
Banshee Rune
Santa Cruz Heckler
Nukeproof mega AM
Lapierre Spicey
Transition Covert
Transition Bandit
Yeti 575
Yeti SB-66
Trek Remedy
Cube Stereo
Cube Fritzz 650b - Serious potential - Check out this prototype review, this bike is gonna be awesome http://m.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/categor ... -13-47469/0 -
Ooooo look, a list of bikes. What are you going to do for your next trick?I don't do smileys.
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HebdenBiker wrote:cooldad wrote:Ooooo look, a list of bikes. What are you going to do for your next trick?
He's just being helpful. Be cool, dad.
EJ, I'm working through your list
I was just suggesting all the long travel trail/AM bikes I could think of so he can check some out for ideas
Sometimes, as I've found, It's hard to think of or find a lot of bikes that fit requirements you want
The transition Bandit is "short" travel by comparison but apparently descends like a 160mm bike so thought I'd include it
The new 2014 Fritzz is on my list at the moment, can't wait for a full spec list and buzzing to demo it.0 -
Obviously I left a lot out, but I tried to list some of the brands that are less talked about
Just bear in mind a lot of these will change for 2014, meaning the inevitable 650b wheel size0 -
ej2320 wrote:Obviously I left a lot out, but I tried to list some of the brands that are less talked about
Just bear in mind a lot of these will change for 2014, meaning the inevitable 650b wheel size
You tried to list some less talked about brands, lappierre, cube and trek? Even Santa Cruz and nuke proof are fairly main stream brands.
But that's a pretty good list to work from. But try before you buy 0 -
welshkev wrote:ej2320 wrote:Obviously I left a lot out, but I tried to list some of the brands that are less talked about
Just bear in mind a lot of these will change for 2014, meaning the inevitable 650b wheel size
You tried to list some less talked about brands, lappierre, cube and trek? Even Santa Cruz and nuke proof are fairly main stream brands.
But that's a pretty good list to work from. But try before you buy
Key word.. Tried
Totally agree, demo where possible, even canyon, they have demo events so try and go to one0 -
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A 5 will be fine for anything, you're unlikely of being competitive on anything to begin with, and whilst after some time, you may start to take the racing far more seriously, then you could consider a race bike, bu until then, you'll have a far more enjoyable time on an all-rounder machine, such as a 5.
However, if you want the best all rounder...
https://online.atb-sales.co.uk/p-1622-c ... -2013.aspx
End of thread.0 -
I agree with this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I don't do smileys.
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HebdenBiker wrote:
Bit overpriced considering the spec I'd say0 -
ej2320 wrote:HebdenBiker wrote:
Bit overpriced considering the spec I'd say
TBF so is an orange lol0 -
POAH wrote:ej2320 wrote:HebdenBiker wrote:
Bit overpriced considering the spec I'd say
TBF so is an orange lol
Yea, I'd always build my own orange or buy second bikes or parts0
