The Tour - stage 13 *spoiler*

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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    Real-time speed data from the different groups would be good info on stages like this. Movi TTT looks toast.
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  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    This probably isn't good for the racing tomorrow and Sunday... Movistar burning a lot of energy.
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    Why would any other team help OPQ to set the pace? I'd have thought they'd let them do all the work and tire themselves out.
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Ignore me, considering it's a straight rode the wind is now left to right according to the flags.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    2nd group must be closer to Valverde than he is to 1st group by now
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    Has Alejandro been to the same clinic as Rooney, Gooch, Warne and co?

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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    edited July 2013
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    Time's up! They're out of gas.

    He's doomed. Could lose minutes today unless he can get help from Kittel's group.
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  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    Lichtblick wrote:
    Why would any other team help OPQ to set the pace? I'd have thought they'd let them do all the work and tire themselves out.

    Belkin for the GC I think?
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    edited July 2013
    Sky will take it up once Belkin tire. 50 seconds gap now.
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  • Runtothehills
    Runtothehills Posts: 184
    What is the protocol here? last year Sky held up the peleton when there were tacks on the road so the GC wasn't affected but this is a stage for the sprinters so should their teams wait or not?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    This is how I feel right now. Racing! LOVE IT!

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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    love it .... riding along in 53 x13 ...
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    edited July 2013
    Valverde back in 2nd group now, ~50s back

    Edit: 1:05 now apparently
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    MOvistar swallowed by 2nd group
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  • chrisday
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    Runtothehills wrote:
    What is the protocol here? last year Sky held up the peloton when there were tacks on the road so the GC wasn't affected but this is a stage for the sprinters so should their teams wait or not?

    My slightly cynical take would be Movistar reaping what they've sown in the past
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  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    Lichtblick wrote:
    Why would any other team help OPQ to set the pace? I'd have thought they'd let them do all the work and tire themselves out.

    Belkin are Dutch, they were born to push the pace on and form an echelon. That and they want to gain some time for Mollema over Valverde.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    Usually it's a bit of quid pro quo, but Movistar have a (deserved) reputation for "attacking" after crashes or mechanicals so they ve got very little sympathy...
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    emadden wrote:
    love it .... riding along in 53 x13 ...

    13? Maybe that's the 13 on a 13-29 cassette of a sportive rider.
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Its called "yellow lid karma" .... the karma that gets you for wearing atrocious helmets..

    anyway this will all be back together in 20km
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    Europcar rider on the front now! Why?
  • TimB34
    TimB34 Posts: 316
    I don't suppose that'll stop Valverde from having a bit of a moan about Belkin tonight though...
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Movistar group now joined the chasing teams at 65s behind. Still Belkin and OPQS. Setting the pace. No sign of Sky doing anything at the mo.
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    hammerite wrote:
    Lichtblick wrote:
    Why would any other team help OPQ to set the pace? I'd have thought they'd let them do all the work and tire themselves out.

    Belkin are Dutch, they were born to push the pace on and form an echelon. That and they want to gain some time for Mollema over Valverde.

    Ah I see. Thanks.

    Since I've only just got in, why are there two distinct groups?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Lichtblick wrote:
    hammerite wrote:
    Lichtblick wrote:
    Why would any other team help OPQ to set the pace? I'd have thought they'd let them do all the work and tire themselves out.

    Belkin are Dutch, they were born to push the pace on and form an echelon. That and they want to gain some time for Mollema over Valverde.

    Ah I see. Thanks.

    Since I've only just got in, why are there two distinct groups?

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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    emadden wrote:
    love it .... riding along in 53 x13 ...

    13? Maybe that's the 13 on a 13-29 cassette of a sportive rider.

    in the shots they were showing the chain was in the 3rd cog... im assuming they are on 11-23 campag cassettes.. that would make it a 13
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  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    chrisday wrote:
    Runtothehills wrote:
    What is the protocol here? last year Sky held up the peloton when there were tacks on the road so the GC wasn't affected but this is a stage for the sprinters so should their teams wait or not?

    My slightly cynical take would be Movistar reaping what they've sown in the past

    Tacks on the road were causing a danger for everyone. A puncture when a group is just dawdling and someone attacks is a no no. But this was already a racing situation, Valverde got a puncture at the wrong time, no one has cranked up the pace since then, Belkin are just helping OPQS to maintain the pace for their advantage.
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    emadden wrote:
    love it .... riding along in 53 x13 ...

    13? Maybe that's the 13 on a 13-29 cassette of a sportive rider.

    oh snap
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Belkin beltin' it :D
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    emadden wrote:
    Its called "yellow lid karma" .... the karma that gets you for wearing atrocious helmets..

    anyway this will all be back together in 20km
    Possibly, but a harder than necessary day of work for Movistar.
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  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    ok, thanks all

    now why don't some team cars move up to protect/supply mechanics to the front group if necessary?

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