Dauphine - Stage 4 *Spoiler*

frenchfighter

Porte looks pretty mean in his TT position.


Very contrasting positions on the TT bikes as shown here:
http://www.teamsky.com/gallery/0,27401, ... l#photo=11

No_Ta_Doctor

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

Don't worry about Rich. He's just upset that he worked hard to get where he is, while the rest of us got pissed up and talked shit. Besides, we'd make an excellent call center team:

Press one if you are enquiring about Pro Racing. Press two if you are enquiring about Philosophy. Press three if you reject the implicit dualism of the previous choice.

above_the_cows

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for my imaginary band though.

OK this is what happened, as well as riding bikes I also used to do a lot of that riding horses lark, like what the Queen's grand daughter does (used to compete against her and all but I digress). Anyway I set off on the cross-country section and over the first fence and like you do, I leaned forward and moved my hands a little up either side of the horses neck except this time I somehow managed to leave my thumb behind on the top of the horses neck and bent my thumb right back. Hurt like hell for the rest of the course and then when I finished I found I couldn't let go of the reins and the paramedic had to cut my glove off. It was really embarrassing. I must be one of the few people to have broken a bone requiring complex medical attention while not actually falling off. Came second that day too but by then I was sitting in casualty so I didn't get to collect my prize of a bag of horse feed.

above_the_cows

No tA Doctor wrote:

Besides, we'd make an excellent call center team:

Press one if you are enquiring about Pro Racing. Press two if you are enquiring about Philosophy. Press three if you reject the implicit dualism of the previous choice.

I genuinely guffawed! My colleague's just come in from the next office to ask what's so funny.

Richmond Racer

Above The Cows wrote:

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for imaginary band though.

OK this is what happened, as well as riding bikes I also used to do a lot of that riding horses lark, like what the Queen's grand daughter does (used to compete against her and all but I digress). Anyway I set off on the cross-country section and over the first fence and like you do, I leaned forward and moved my hands a little up either side of the horses neck except this time I somehow managed to leave my thumb behind on the top of the horses neck and bent my thumb right back. Hurt like hell for the rest of the course and then when I finished I found I couldn't let go of the reins and the paramedic had to cut my glove off. It was really embarrassing. I must be one of the few people to have broken a bone requiring complex medical attention while not actually falling off. Came second that day too but by then I was sitting in casualty so I didn't get to collect my prize of a bag of horse feed.

You are Piggy French and I claim my £5

RichN95.

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

If Paul Feyerabend had said a little less about epistemological anarchism and a little more about missold PPIs you would all have been better off for it.

ratsbeyfus

Above The Cows wrote:

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for my imaginary band though.

OK this is what happened, as well as riding bikes I also used to do a lot of that riding horses lark, like what the Queen's grand daughter does (used to compete against her and all but I digress). Anyway I set off on the cross-country section and over the first fence and like you do, I leaned forward and moved my hands a little up either side of the horses neck except this time I somehow managed to leave my thumb behind on the top of the horses neck and bent my thumb right back. Hurt like hell for the rest of the course and then when I finished I found I couldn't let go of the reins and the paramedic had to cut my glove off. It was really embarrassing. I must be one of the few people to have broken a bone requiring complex medical attention while not actually falling off. Came second that day too but by then I was sitting in casualty so I didn't get to collect my prize of a bag of horse feed.

Paramedic? Waste of the NHS resources! You should've ridden into the A&E department.

lostboysaint

knedlicky wrote:

wombly knees wrote:

Daz555 wrote:

wombly knees wrote:

He quit the Tour citing a broken wrist, no? Wouldn't have had much time for recovery.

He broke his wrist on stage 1. He raced until stage 9 and then quit to rest and prepare for the Olympics TT.
There was nothing at all wrong with Martin in 2012.

20 days for an injured wrist may not be enough depending on the extent of the injury. And to get in form? Most of last year was a bit of a write off for Martin, by his TT standards, for whatever reason much like Wiggins in 2010. I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Nothing at all wrong! Martin pulled out of the Tour to let the injury (4 separate breaks in the scaphoid bone) heal better. In the week up till his withdrawal he rode with a cast on his wrist.
He was still wearing a cast at the Olympic TT three weeks later.

A cast is normally required for a scaphoid injury for at least 6 weeks. Ask any cyclist or even David Beckham – a decade ago he had his wrist in plaster for 6-7 weeks when he had just one break in the scaphoid bone.
Martin only stayed in the Tour that long because of the TT, his strong point. The following stages were in the high mountains and the pulling on the handlebars he might have then done, would have been bad for the injury.

Wombly, you’re that most of last year was a bit of a write-off for Martin, but the summer didn’t get off to a good start when a car hit him early April. It seems he went through the windscreen, lost conciousness, broke his cheekbone, jaw and orbita (the bone around the eye socket), his cheekbone requiring an operation.

It’s a wonder he then only skipped the Tour de Romandie, and was back riding in 3 weeks. One interruption after another wouldn't have helped his form.

Or perhaps ask the MotoGP and Superbike racers who regularly race with broken scaphoid bones. They do a lot more with their wrists and have significantly more loading on them than a TT rider.

above_the_cows

Richmond Racer wrote:

You are Piggy French and I claim my £5

What a name eh? You wouldn't have to make up a load of cobblers for a thread on ridiculous facts about equestrians. They are a strange bunch. Let me tell you about the time my horse trod on Keith Chegwin... True story.

andyp

I nearly knocked Keith Chegwin off his bike once. Also a true story.

above_the_cows

andyp wrote:

I nearly knocked Keith Chegwin off his bike once. Also a true story.

He has that effect on people.

andyp

I also found him chasing our cat around the garden once too. The cat liked that game.

Crozza

Crozza wrote:

Boss

If only he'd used the spare bike

frenchfighter

Very nice.

Macaloon

andyp wrote:

I nearly knocked Keith Chegwin off his bike once. Also a true story.

FAIL. Lightweight.

David Icke we could forgive. He got foursight. But Cheggers's only had pop.

Daz555

lostboysaint wrote:

Or perhaps ask the MotoGP and Superbike racers who regularly race with broken scaphoid bones. They do a lot more with their wrists and have significantly more loading on them than a TT rider.

This. Stoner managed a pole with a broken scaphoid in 2008 (crashed in the race though... )

Martin rode 8 stages with a broken scaphoid and likely only withdrew because of another mechanical which ruined his TT on stage 9 iirc. I also suspect that he realised after stage 9 that his only chance of winning gold in London was to go and prepare for the TT without a grand tour in his legs.

Martin beat everyone who matters in TTs during 2012 and won the Worlds - he just could not beat Wiggo. No shame in that - Wiggo had his champagne season and there was nothing Martin or anyone could have done in a TT to beat him last year.

knedlicky

Above The Cows wrote:

OK this is what happened, as well as riding bikes I also used to do a lot of that riding horses lark, like what the Queen's grand daughter does (used to compete against her and all but I digress). Anyway I set off on the cross-country section and over the first fence and like you do, I leaned forward and moved my hands a little up either side of the horses neck except this time I somehow managed to leave my thumb behind on the top of the horses neck and bent my thumb right back. Hurt like hell for the rest of the course and then when I finished I found I couldn't let go of the reins and the paramedic had to cut my glove off. It was really embarrassing. I must be one of the few people to have broken a bone requiring complex medical attention while not actually falling off. Came second that day too but by then I was sitting in casualty so I didn't get to collect my prize of a bag of horse feed.

I’m not doubting you broke your Scaphoid but your description of how the injury occurred makes it sound like how ‘skier’s thumb’ occurs, which is where the ligament at the base of the thumb tears as a result of the thumb being pulled and put under too much stress.

This can happen when the ski pole doesn't release from the hand and its strap pulls the thumb backwards. It often happens in a crash but can also happen without a crash and also without falling down.
If you pass at speed close to a slalom gate, and your pole gets momentarily caught but doesn’t release, your thumb takes the brunt of the resultant jerk.
This was my case; I didn’t fall. A partial tear meant a splint; a full tear would have meant surgery. I also got no horse feed.

No_Ta_Doctor

Above The Cows wrote:

,

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for my imaginary band though.

Mine's called Fear of a Lesbian Queen.
Norman Tebbit's discussion of the Gay marriage question helped me name it.

No_Ta_Doctor

RichN95 wrote:

Mad_Malx wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

I won't tell you how I broke mine, it is really embarrassing as I didn't even crash or fall off.

Did it involve typing 'Feyerabend's anarchic dadaism'?

[I've been waiting 30 odd years to work that phrase into a conversation, only to be thwarted by Rich yesterday evening. This may be my best (albeit tenuous) opportunity]

If Paul Feyerabend had said a little less about epistemological anarchism and a little more about missold PPIs you would all have been better off for it.

Would we also have been curmudgeonly, spoilsport, party-poopers though?

Just asking ;-)

prawny

No tA Doctor wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

,

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for my imaginary band though.

Mine's called Fear of a Lesbian Queen.
Norman Tebbit's discussion of the Gay marriage question helped me name it.

My most recent one (just this aftrernoon) is called Whore For Shortbread. I've just got Garageband for my ipad so keep an eye out on itunes for the new single in a few weeks.

ddraver

No tA Doctor wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

,

Alas no. You've just given me a new name for my imaginary band though.

Mine's called Fear of a Lesbian Queen.
Norman Tebbit's discussion of the Gay marriage question helped me name it.

Post Mortal Erection