Santambrogio +

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited December 2014 in Pro race
EPO

Oh dear me
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    Lol
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    The Pope has also tested positive for Catholicism
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  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    edited June 2013
    If my italian is up to date it was after the first stage. Would have known that positive for a while then, eh?

    And EPO... They aren't even trying, are they...
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Vini Fantini...the end for the Day-Glos?
  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    snigger
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,541
    ...and apparently only 5% of the peloton will be doping at the tour.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    It's my first PTP-level season. Are Santa's PTP points void in the light of this bombshell?

    Asking for a friend.
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Shocked face.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Macaloon wrote:
    It's my first PTP-level season. Are Santa's PTP points void in the light of this bombshell?

    Asking for a friend.
    The 'Landis Rule' applies. All results on the day stand, no rejigging of points. (Afx did redistribute the points when Landis was positive, but it was such a pain to do he created a rule so he didn't have to do it again).
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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Least surprising bust since.....Di Luca.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    who's going to tell FF?
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    “@Greghenderson1: I just don't get it!!! What are they thinking? What actually goes on in their mind? STOP CHEATING DICKHEADS.”
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Hmm, someone on this forum said that I should be more of a believer in clean riders these days, this was about a month or two ago, on the basis that I'd read too many doping books (which I have).

    Quite a few incidents since then, just a shame that Santambrogio didn't take a bit more as I had money riding on him in the giro :roll:
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    Jonathan Vaughters ‏@Vaughters 2m

    Good to see Santambroggio positive. Us dirty ol managers have known his performances were high risk for a while. Good to see system work.


    :)
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Wasnt he implicated in the Mantova affair?

    EDIT: Yes he was: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bmc-sta ... es-pending

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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    So do we think that the EPO cheats are being beaten clean?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    Joelsim wrote:
    Hmm, someone on this forum said that I should be more of a believer in clean riders these days, this was about a month or two ago, on the basis that I'd read too many doping books (which I have).
    No-one said you should be a believer in a rider who has been banned twice before or a rider who was riding better than at the time of the drug investigation he is currently involved in despite have dropping to a second tier team.
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Joelsim wrote:
    Hmm, someone on this forum said that I should be more of a believer in clean riders these days, this was about a month or two ago, on the basis that I'd read too many doping books (which I have).

    Quite a few incidents since then, just a shame that Santambrogio didn't take a bit more as I had money riding on him in the giro :roll:

    I doubt many would have said you should be a believer in Di Luca or Santambrogio.
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    David Millar ‏@millarmind 2m

    The peloton knew Vini Fantini weren't trustworthy: was the talking point for the first week of the Giro (until misery & survival took over).
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  • goonz
    goonz Posts: 3,106
    Seriously what goes on in these guys heads? Although if you are going to do it at least do it properly like Lance!

    Is the team owned by Cipo? Was he also a drug cheat? If yes to both must be a fitting way to end his ambitions as a team directeur.

    what are the odds a juiced up Bertie turns up at the tour?
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    lostboysaint wrote:
    David Millar ‏@millarmind 2m

    The peloton knew Vini Fantini weren't trustworthy: was the talking point for the first week of the Giro (until misery & survival took over).


    That's big. Not usual to point the finger at a whole team...
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Jesus.
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  • dsoutar
    dsoutar Posts: 1,746
    must have thought he was bullet-proof I guess after Mantova
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Jesus.

    He's on bread and water, don't worry.

    Or is it wine, or fish? Not too good on bible things.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,941
    If Miller et al knew, why are they only speaking out now?
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    phreak wrote:
    If Miller et al knew, why are they only speaking out now?
    Without proof what have you got. Let the system bust the riders.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,536
    Part of me is just going "yeah, old skool, represent!"
    Epo, ffs. Amateurs.
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  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    phreak wrote:
    If Miller et al knew, why are they only speaking out now?

    As SBF says, what could they do? Got to wait for the system to work for them.

    So, when does Nibali's get announced?
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    phreak wrote:
    If Miller et al knew, why are they only speaking out now?


    Take a look at Vaughters Twitter feed and his responses to this question. Basically you cant go shouting out and accusing in public without evidence - better to report concerns in private to AD officials. Which is what he's inferring was done
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,941
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    phreak wrote:
    If Miller et al knew, why are they only speaking out now?
    Without proof what have you got. Let the system bust the riders.

    Given how hard it was for anyone to speak out about the culture of doping previously, you'd think they could do something. After all, the system hasn't proved that good at catching them in the past.
    Take a look at Vaughters Twitter feed and his responses to this question. Basically you cant go shouting out and accusing in public without evidence - better to report concerns in private to AD officials. Which is what he's inferring was done

    Aye, fair enough. As long as they're able to report it to someone and it doesn't all get brushed under the carpet.

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