Tirreno-Adriatico 2013 *SPOILERS*

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  • greeny12
    greeny12 Posts: 759
    ellerslierd wrote:
    Damn, that was good fun! I love selective stages that don't necessarily end with an uphill sprint. Small groups that are a few seconds apart chasing each other on a flat run-in seconds apart is way more exciting!

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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Yeah, good ride by Nibs, well, by all the top 3 really.

    Nice to see Contador off the podium, just didn't have the legs. Looked downhearted in the the interview, didn't sound or look sincere when he said he was happy.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Sagan plainly says he told his riders to go to the front to pull the break back....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    You re hilarious you really are - The highlights have just shown Astana and Cannondale trains pulling the break back and setting up the win and second place, yet you have the gall to suggest that Sky are boring because they ride with a train?

    Froome pulled himself inside out to get back up to the group, that contained your hero, on his own, yet he was somehow has no balls

    Seriously, Specsavers could nt sort out your blinkers....

    Be fair, Contador was 15s off the front of that group.

    But you're right. I don't think many riders would have the legs to pull that gap back after bridging across on their own.

    They ended up all vaguely together though did nt they?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    frenchfighter wrote:
    LoL, Sky fan boys all confused. Why is Froome not at the front? Becuase he had no team to do his work, the plan failed and he has no legs to ride, no heart to hit the front and no balls to descend like fire.

    You truly have no class!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    WTF was that Wiggo/Giro Advert?!?!?!!? :D
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Contador interview in English. Love it.
    Clearly he didn't think much of today's parcour.
    Happy? he certainly didn't give that impression.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Right, well perhaps that might quieten a couple of the conspiracy theorists re Sky for a moment....

    Hang on, what's this...Sky deliberately threw today to throw people off the scent? WOW....DaveB's GOOD.....
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    ddraver wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    You re hilarious you really are - The highlights have just shown Astana and Cannondale trains pulling the break back and setting up the win and second place, yet you have the gall to suggest that Sky are boring because they ride with a train?

    Froome pulled himself inside out to get back up to the group, that contained your hero, on his own, yet he was somehow has no balls

    Seriously, Specsavers could nt sort out your blinkers....

    Be fair, Contador was 15s off the front of that group.

    But you're right. I don't think many riders would have the legs to pull that gap back after bridging across on their own.

    They ended up all vaguely together though did nt they?

    To within 5s yeah. We're agreeing I think. Froome spent all his biscuits getting up to a decent sized group and was fortunate they were able to pull back the 4 in front to a reasonable gap.
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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    Classic Nibali there. Even when he knew Nibali would be driving it on at the front Froome was just hanging at the back of his group.

    Froome 34 secs back from Nibali. Can that be pulled back in the TT? Purito ahead of Contador as well.


    Nibali a decent TTer though not as good as Froome/Contador . Now time to go and hunt up the profile for tomorrow...

    Nick Bull's worked out that Froome needs to make up 3.5secs/km on Nibbles tomorrow

    Dont think it will happen. Nibs was 20 secs off Canc in the final TT last year so cant see him dropping 34 to Froome whatever the course looks like.

    Any chance all the others could just fall off and let J Rod win as stupidly backed him for the win.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Right, well perhaps that might quieten a couple of the conspiracy theorists re Sky for a moment....

    Hang on, what's this...Sky deliberately threw today to throw people off the scent? WOW....DaveB's GOOD.....

    But it seems it's you RR that always drags up the 'sky conspiracy theorists' in threads. Like just now.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Pross wrote:
    Should be an opportunity to get rid of Froome's support on those slopes though if someone is prepared to risk a podium place for an outside chance of a win.

    Posted numerous pages above. Apologies for blowing my own trumpet but it's the first time I've ever had a prediction come true. I haven't seen it yet but from the posts above I'm surprised how big the time gaps got though, I thought it would have closed up more on the 10km to the finish though. I'm also a bit surprised that Henao and Uran couldn't stay in touch enough to get back and help Froome as I'd have thought the short, steep climb would have suited them.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,557
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.

    Hope you'll plug you're brain back in first FF.
    Surely you don't apply your one eyed bigotry to your day job.

    :!:
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    ddraver wrote:
    WTF was that Wiggo/Giro Advert?!?!?!!? :D

    Not just me then, I though there was something up with my coffee for a minute. Is quite a weird one but it is Eurosport I guess
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.

    Hope you'll plug you're brain back in first FF.
    Surely you don't apply your one eyed bigotry to your day job.

    :!:

    Don't think I can recall FF ever slinging insults at anybody - so many throw them at him, if you don't like what he has to say - fine, argue but resorting to insults is not too classy.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,557
    Think Frenchie was pretty insulting to Froome.
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Pross wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    Should be an opportunity to get rid of Froome's support on those slopes though if someone is prepared to risk a podium place for an outside chance of a win.

    Posted numerous pages above. Apologies for blowing my own trumpet but it's the first time I've ever had a prediction come true. I haven't seen it yet but from the posts above I'm surprised how big the time gaps got though, I thought it would have closed up more on the 10km to the finish though. I'm also a bit surprised that Henao and Uran couldn't stay in touch enough to get back and help Froome as I'd have thought the short, steep climb would have suited them.


    The second climb was not as brutal but on the descent there were some tight hairpins, it was quite wet & looked like a new road surface. The front group were not easing up either, so the 2 groups behind would have had to have been near suicidal to chase it down.

    Once on the flat Berties group seemed to not be going as hard (though he did look a bit flat TBH at the end) as Froomies who had made up a lot of time on the straight flat road.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    smithy21 wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Milton50 wrote:
    Classic Nibali there. Even when he knew Nibali would be driving it on at the front Froome was just hanging at the back of his group.

    Froome 34 secs back from Nibali. Can that be pulled back in the TT? Purito ahead of Contador as well.


    Nibali a decent TTer though not as good as Froome/Contador . Now time to go and hunt up the profile for tomorrow...

    Nick Bull's worked out that Froome needs to make up 3.5secs/km on Nibbles tomorrow

    Dont think it will happen. Nibs was 20 secs off Canc in the final TT last year so cant see him dropping 34 to Froome whatever the course looks like.

    Any chance all the others could just fall off and let J Rod win as stupidly backed him for the win.


    Agree. A few seconds too much to make up
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    Erm, from personal experience I have to disagree with you there LL ;)

    DG - yes, I think we re saying the same thing....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Think Frenchie was pretty insulting to Froome.

    Not sure he called him a brain dead one-eyed biggot.

    That sort of comment lost Gordon Brown an election :wink:
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.

    Hope you'll plug you're brain back in first FF.
    Surely you don't apply your one eyed bigotry to your day job.

    :!:

    Don't think I can recall FF ever slinging insults at anybody - so many throw them at him, if you don't like what he has to say - fine, argue but resorting to insults is not too classy.
    Maybe he doesn't often resort to outright insults but he is frequently extremely condescending and patronising, not to mention so utterly sure that his views are correct that he's unwilling to entertain any other opinions. That's not exactly classy either.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Right, well perhaps that might quieten a couple of the conspiracy theorists re Sky for a moment....

    Hang on, what's this...Sky deliberately threw today to throw people off the scent? WOW....DaveB's GOOD.....

    But it seems it's you RR that always drags up the 'sky conspiracy theorists' in threads. Like just now.


    Yeah, as ever you're right. As always. I'm actually behind it all. You win.
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    adr82 wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.

    Hope you'll plug you're brain back in first FF.
    Surely you don't apply your one eyed bigotry to your day job.

    :!:

    Don't think I can recall FF ever slinging insults at anybody - so many throw them at him, if you don't like what he has to say - fine, argue but resorting to insults is not too classy.
    Maybe he doesn't often resort to outright insults but he is frequently extremely condescending and patronising, not to mention so utterly sure that his views are correct that he's unwilling to entertain any other opinions. That's not exactly classy either.

    So you havnt read the posts in this thread where he clearly says its his opinion and that he can see why others have differing opinions?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Cheers all, I had intended staying away from this thread to avoid the result until I'd seen the race but the massive increase in posts dragged me in. So who's going to start going on about Sky dominance now? I still think Froome is vulnerable even with the team support as I don't think he has the self belief and can get a bit panicky when a plan fails.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    LeicesterLad wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good old real racing right there. Love this sport. Now back to the markets.

    Hope you'll plug you're brain back in first FF.
    Surely you don't apply your one eyed bigotry to your day job.

    :!:

    Don't think I can recall FF ever slinging insults at anybody - so many throw them at him, if you don't like what he has to say - fine, argue but resorting to insults is not too classy.
    Maybe he doesn't often resort to outright insults but he is frequently extremely condescending and patronising, not to mention so utterly sure that his views are correct that he's unwilling to entertain any other opinions. That's not exactly classy either.

    So you havnt read the posts in this thread where he clearly says its his opinion and that he can see why others have differing opinions?

    To be fair, I put that down to a slight dip in form :wink:
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Jesus, we get some seriously good racing and yet people are still engaging in petty squabbles over who called who what.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Jesus, we get some seriously good racing and yet people are still engaging in petty squabbles over who called who what.

    Welcome to the internet.
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  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    inkyfingers wrote:
    Jesus, we get some seriously good racing and yet people are still engaging in petty squabbles over who called who what.

    Yeah, sorry about that. Back on topic - today was the greatest day of stage racing this year. Very enjoyable to watch, hard hard stage.

    Paris-Nice....meh.
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Pross wrote:
    Cheers all, I had intended staying away from this thread to avoid the result until I'd seen the race but the massive increase in posts dragged me in. So who's going to start going on about Sky dominance now? I still think Froome is vulnerable even with the team support as I don't think he has the self belief and can get a bit panicky when a plan fails.

    It was just an uncontrollable stage, and he's not nearly as good on that terrain as Nibali. I don't think it's anything more dramatic than that.

    Contador is usually pretty decent at those sort of stages, but he looked remarkably human again.

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