Michael Pinchen

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  • berni
    berni Posts: 137
    to confirm that the bike was advertised with a link to the nealpryde website which confirmed the bike had a full da groupset, including cassette. Firstly the seller claimed it came with a 105 cassette, then later changed his story to 'I changed the cassette to improve the bike@. The cassette was returned, not recorded, but proof of postage, session id 1-893932 on 18/2/13 at 16.57. The proof of postage covers refunds up to about £40. Now the seller claims that the post arrives in a communal box, here is the email "There is a communal mail box for both offices and apartments and the mail is sorted daily.

    I expect you to return the correct cassette. I rather doubt you will though. I think most people on the forum are realising that now.

    Not a problem for me Berni. I believe in karma. ".
    I had asked him for an original proof of purchase to help the claim which he has refused.
    He has lied, I have no evidence that he does not have the cassette and I have proof of postage. Seems odd that it has gone missing or is that another lie from the seller? I will email him a scan of the postage proof. He is also claiming now that the 105 , hardly used cassette has transformed into a new cassette!
  • ooermissus
    ooermissus Posts: 811
    I'd calm down if I was you. Your statements may well be libelous.
  • paul_mck
    paul_mck Posts: 1,058
    so now he stole his own cassette?

    I think the mods need to rename this thread to Michael Pinchen feeling ripped off.
  • berni
    berni Posts: 137
    no paul mck, just seems odd that I have sent about 100 parcels over the last couple of months and it's the only one thjat's gone missing.
    Anyway, I have offered him the price of a new cassette on ebay .
  • EH_Rob
    EH_Rob Posts: 1,134
    paul_mck wrote:
    so now he stole his own cassette?

    I think the mods need to rename this thread to Michael Pinchen feeling ripped off.

    I'd suggest "People can be proper dicks" would be a good one.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    EH_Rob wrote:
    paul_mck wrote:
    so now he stole his own cassette?

    I think the mods need to rename this thread to Michael Pinchen feeling ripped off.

    I'd suggest "People can be proper dicks" would be a good one.

    that made me actual "LOL" :lol:
  • mpatts
    mpatts Posts: 1,010
    I'm read the whole thread now. Holy crap, what a waste of oxygen. Here is my 2p's as to how I would have reacted on noticing it was 105 not DA

    1) Shrugged, and gone out for a ride
    2) Email seller, asking to confirm, maybe having a light moan
    3) Gone out for another ride
    4) Cross out 105 and write Dura Ace on the cassette, in permanent marker.

    I get "ripped off" quite a lot, because frankly life is just to short to rush around suing everyone. The other day I ordered a merino wool top, size 38 chest, but when it came it was more like 37.5. I feel cheated. But hey, that's just me.
    Insert bike here:
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    But if you bought a Dura Ace cassette on ebay and a 105 turned up, what would you do? New, a Dura Ace is typically £100 more.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    supersonic wrote:
    But if you bought a Dura Ace cassette on ebay and a 105 turned up, what would you do? New, a Dura Ace is typically £100 more.

    i accept that and have said that the OP is perfectly within his rights to do what he's done - all be ait a bit over dramatically imo. but does it really make that much of a difference to your everyday rider?

    as i said before i wouldn't care if i bought an xt group and the guy had said i've put on a newer slx one for you.

    but hey ho, life would be boring if everyone was the same :lol:
  • paul_mck
    paul_mck Posts: 1,058
    supersonic wrote:
    But if you bought a Dura Ace cassette on ebay and a 105 turned up, what would you do? New, a Dura Ace is typically £100 more.

    not comparable at all. if youre buying a cassette then you would expect it to be what it says it is. Passing off a 105 cassette as a DA one is 100% incorrect.

    In this case its one component that was wrong. Which is what? 5% of the bike as a whole? Everything else seems to have been exactly as described. And its not uncommon for bikes to be advertised as a full XYZ groupset then have a lower spec cassette. ie Dolan.

    So you gotta compare apples to apples.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Either way, it is still a significant, expensive component, which the OP has every right to expect given the advert, and every right to pursue given the value. You are entitled to the proper description: not many bikes are advertised with 'full' groupsets anyway and, if they are not full, then they are leaving themselves very open to recourse.

    I personally would follow it up and get what I had paid for or expect compensation. This is why the classifieds rules asks for a full spec. The OP made a mistake and (as it seems he is), rectify it.
  • berni
    berni Posts: 137
    i now have the correct cassette and have sent the seller the price of a new 105 cassette on ebay, think supersonic makes good points. I dug my heels in after the sellers comments " it came with a 105 cassette"" to " I changed the dura ace to a 105 to improve it". Just felt he wasn't being straight with me. Think this thread may well be done now!
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Seems like a good resolution! Despite a few crossed wires and postal problems, all is good.

    However I will change the title of the thread.
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    berni wrote:
    i now have the correct cassette and have sent the seller the price of a new 105 cassette on ebay, think supersonic makes good points. I dug my heels in after the sellers comments " it came with a 105 cassette"" to " I changed the dura ace to a 105 to improve it". Just felt he wasn't being straight with me. Think this thread may well be done now!

    Berni glad to see that your are there & can get out and enjoy your new bike. As per a previous post I made I too saw the for sale & thought that it was a nice one, hope you enjoy it & we have some good enough weather for you to get out on it.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • boblo
    boblo Posts: 360
    Aaah but, before we all trot off into the sun set, has anybody (particularly the 2 principle characters) learned anything from this debacle?
  • berni
    berni Posts: 137
    pay using paypal next time!
  • airwise
    airwise Posts: 248
    I learnt to follow my instincts ;) They were telling me to walk away even before Berni had committed to buying. I should have listened.