Andy Schleck: Chapeau

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I am not the brothers biggest fan but I love the climbing antics. I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome. Would be interesting to see someone force Froome to attack more.
  • meursault
    meursault Posts: 1,433
    sjmclean wrote:
    I am not the brothers biggest fan but I love the climbing antics. I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome. Would be interesting to see someone force Froome to attack more.

    Not going to happen unless he is in contention. The Sky train just let the others have their fun on the climbs.
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  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    sjmclean wrote:
    I am not the brothers biggest fan but I love the climbing antics. I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome. Would be interesting to see someone force Froome to attack more.

    I thought he was up against Froome in the TdF? Oh, he was and Schlek couldn't keep up with the main contenders never mind Froome. Also, Froome attacked only when he needed to.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    sjmclean wrote:
    I am not the brothers biggest fan but I love the climbing antics. I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome. Would be interesting to see someone force Froome to attack more.


    He has gone up against Froome all year. And been thrashed.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    So I read an interesting interview with them both. Frank has done 24000km this year in training. Frank said Andy's lack of results s mainly due to playing catchup from injuries and mental state.

    They are looking forward to racing together and they always perform when racing together. Frank said that his performances dropped off when going to Radioshack due to Johan changing his preparation and it really not suiting him and so in 2014 he is going to go back to his old leadup.

    I am super excited to see them racing together and it will bring some flair and excitement into the peloton which
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  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    So basically they are still full of excuses?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    frenchfighter wrote:
    So I read an interesting interview with them both. Frank has done 24000km this year in training. Frank said Andy's lack of results s mainly due to playing catchup from injuries and mental state.

    They are looking forward to racing together and they always perform when racing together. Frank said that his performances dropped off when going to Radioshack due to Johan changing his preparation and it really not suiting him and so in 2014 he is going to go back to his old leadup.

    I am super excited to see them racing together and it will bring some flair and excitement into the peloton which

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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ThomThom wrote:
    So basically they are still full of excuses?


    Computer says...YES
  • Spiny_Norman
    Spiny_Norman Posts: 128
    frenchfighter wrote:
    So I read an interesting interview with them both. Frank has done 24000km this year in training. Frank said Andy's lack of results s mainly due to playing catchup from injuries and mental state.

    They are looking forward to racing together and they always perform when racing together. Frank said that his performances dropped off when going to Radioshack due to Johan changing his preparation and it really not suiting him and so in 2014 he is going to go back to his old leadup.

    I am super excited to see them racing together and it will bring some flair and excitement into the peloton which
    An unfortunate word to use in the circumstances. :lol:
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,335
    inseine wrote:
    Who's the peloton which?
    Maybe it should have read "the peloton witch"...

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  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    Wow, Froome can get his bike to fly?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    I was hoping someone had that photo............
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Andy on Froome. Go Andy.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/andy-sc ... rformances
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    You're only as good as your last performance. Just to remind people;

    1st Froome
    2nd Quintana
    ...
    20th Schleck
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    It's fair comment from Andy - he seems to realise that Froome's climbing times aren't the superhuman feats some try to make them out to be, and sure him at his best and Quintana can match him on the climbs. But not in the TTs though. He's still going to lose 5 seconds per kilometre there.
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    sjmclean wrote:
    I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome.
    If Froome is fit, surely all we'll see is Andy being demolished?
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  • gpreeves
    gpreeves Posts: 454
    Daz555 wrote:
    sjmclean wrote:
    I'd love to see Andy go up against Froome.
    If Froome is fit, surely all we'll see is Andy being demolished?

    Not if you believe Andy's quote in the article FF posted:
    He [Froome] is very strong, but he was only seven seconds quicker up Ax-3 Domaines this year than I was in 2010,” Schleck told L’Équipe. “And the previous year, on the Ventoux, I went up as quickly as he did this year, after I had attacked at the bottom and then ridden stop-start at the finish.

    If that's true, and Andy can regain his 2010 form, then it could be an interesting battle.
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    I like his attitude. I hope he has the legs to back it up and be in the mix.
  • ianwilliams
    ianwilliams Posts: 257
    gpreeves wrote:
    If that's true, and Andy can regain his 2010 form, then it could be an interesting battle.

    That's a massive if though. Huge. I'd like to see Andy Schleck riding well...but he finished 41 minutes behind Froome this year.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Some people really should decide whather they think Froome climbs so well that he's clearly doped, or a very ordinary climber. You can't beat the guy with both sticks.
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  • pdstsp
    pdstsp Posts: 1,264
    The other issue is that, potentially, he'll lose significant time on each descent and have to work just to get back on to the group. Like most, though I really hope he gets his form back.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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  • Richmond Racer
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    RichN95 wrote:
    It's fair comment from Andy - he seems to realise that Froome's climbing times aren't the superhuman feats some try to make them out to be, and sure him at his best and Quintana can match him on the climbs. But not in the TTs though. He's still going to lose 5 seconds per kilometre there.


    Kinda difficult for Little Andy to comment based on viewing Froome at close quarters as this year Andy has always been either at the rear of a large front group with a good number of riders up ahead including Froome, or left halfway down a climb after Froome had taken off into the distance. Or trying to avoid falling into a ditch on Ventoux.

    Tough for Andy to see anything of Froome, really.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    pdstsp wrote:
    The other issue is that, potentially, he'll lose significant time on each descent and have to work just to get back on to the group. Like most, though I really hope he gets his form back.


    Unless the descent is technical and runs into the finish Andy won't loose any significant time on descents.
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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Has anybody taught Andy not to change onto the big ring while standing out of the saddle, :?:
    He must have learnt something since last time.
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  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    It's fair comment from Andy - he seems to realise that Froome's climbing times aren't the superhuman feats some try to make them out to be, and sure him at his best and Quintana can match him on the climbs. But not in the TTs though. He's still going to lose 5 seconds per kilometre there.


    Kinda difficult for Little Andy to comment based on viewing Froome at close quarters as this year Andy has always been either at the rear of a large front group with a good number of riders up ahead including Froome, or left halfway down a climb after Froome had taken off into the distance. Or trying to avoid falling into a ditch on Ventoux.

    Tough for Andy to see anything of Froome, really.

    His brother was at home all year so probably taped the races so Andy could see what was going on at the front. :lol:
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    I like his attitude. I hope he has the legs to back it up and be in the mix.

    Isn't it much the same as the attitude he displayed last year that originally inspired this thread? He certainly didn't back that up.
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    Pross wrote:
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    I like his attitude. I hope he has the legs to back it up and be in the mix.

    Isn't it much the same as the attitude he displayed last year that originally inspired this thread? He certainly didn't back that up.

    He was still having issues after the crash. I think he lost a lot of confidence and being with his brother obviously helps. He did have a few decent climbs and I think he can get back in the mix.

    As usual his TT needs to be better if he wants that GT victory.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    "Ask me how my week was because it was just shit," Schleck told Cyclingnews at the finish of Liège-Bastogne-Liège on Sunday.

    "I crashed in Amstel and since them I've constantly had pain in my knee."

    "I had a scan and they told me to rest but can't really rest because I was really motivated for today. I was supposed to do Romandie but about half an hour ago we decided that it makes no sense. I need to stop now for four or five days and then I hope I feel good."

    "I need to start to training hard and well because I know this is shit," he said.

    "I know that I need to prove something to the team because who would send someone to the Tour who rides a bike like I do at the moment? No one, and no one will want to ride for me so I want to show something in Suisse. I know that. I want to."

    "My form is not so bad. My form is good and I insist on that. I was training hard and was doing five hours behind the scooter. My form is good. It's just the knee."

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  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    Why has his career gone so badly? I just don't understand it. He's gone from playing cat and mouse with Contador to being conspicuous by his absence. Such a shame.

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