Glasgow 2014 - Road Race / TT

paulcuthbert
paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
edited June 2013 in Pro race
Hi,

Is there any information on the courses for the Commonwealth Games Road or TT races for Glasgow 2014 yet?
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Paul,

    I have a little info on the TT course as it is proposed. I can't really say anything on here, but it looks to be in the city and to the north and east.

    The start finish for both TT and RR will be Glasgow Green.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    They should be made to ride up Gardner Street...three times ;-)
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    As it stands, there'll be no women's team events on the track.
    Not that it matters, here.
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  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    Oh that's interesting about the TT.

    I hope the Road Race will take in the Campsie Fells or the Braes to the south. While not as long as climbs in the Tour or Giro, they're pretty steep so the hopefully the pace would slow considerably and be better viewing/racing. I think leaving from George Square in Glasgow, going through Bishopbriggs, Kirkintilloch going up the Tak-Ma-Doon out of Kilsyth, along the Carron Valley Resevoir, down the Crow Road to Lennoxtown, then Strathblane, Milngavie, Clydebank, over the Erskine Bridge and returning to Glasgow via the Gleniffer Braes south of Paisley. I think that'd be a great route. Just mapped it on British Cycling Mapping and it's 170km
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Oh that's interesting about the TT.

    I hope the Road Race will take in the Campsie Fells or the Braes to the south. While not as long as climbs in the Tour or Giro, they're pretty steep so the hopefully the pace would slow considerably and be better viewing/racing. I think leaving from George Square in Glasgow, going through Bishopbriggs, Kirkintilloch going up the Tak-Ma-Doon out of Kilsyth, along the Carron Valley Resevoir, down the Crow Road to Lennoxtown, then Strathblane, Milngavie, Clydebank, over the Erskine Bridge and returning to Glasgow via the Gleniffer Braes south of Paisley. I think that'd be a great route. Just mapped it on British Cycling Mapping and it's 170km

    Wouldn't get your hopes up! I think they want to keep as much as possible within the city limits. As I said, start and finish will be on Glasgow Green.
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  • ozzzyosborn206
    ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    edited January 2013
    i heard a rumour that the road race course is flatter than you'd expect for Scotland, almost Kermesse like, which would make for good spectating roadside, maybe not so good on tele
  • Omar Little
    Omar Little Posts: 2,010
    Are cyclists (in terms of those involved in the sport who have organised road races etc) designing the route or is just Glasgow Life deciding what is going to be good?

    Bit disappointed if it will be all in the city, one of the great things about Glasgow is how close it is the country side and hills which would be a big selling point not just from a cycling fan viewing perspective but from a attracting tourism too.

    My big fear is it will be like a crit around the east end :lol:
  • Captain Fagor
    Captain Fagor Posts: 739
    paulcuthbert wrote:
    Oh that's interesting about the TT.

    I think leaving from George Square in Glasgow, going through Bishopbriggs, Kirkintilloch going up the Tak-Ma-Doon out of Kilsyth, along the Carron Valley Resevoir, down the Crow Road to Lennoxtown, then Strathblane, Milngavie, Clydebank, over the Erskine Bridge and returning to Glasgow via the Gleniffer Braes south of Paisley.

    Aren't you forgetting about the cobbled burn on the descent of the Tak-Ma-Doon? Sending an international RR without the local knowledge down that road would probably be an accident waiting to happen.

    Good luck to them trying to find some decent road surfaces! :evil:
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Captain Fagor wrote:
    Good luck to them trying to find some decent road surfaces! :evil:
    Exactly, although if this leads to some long overdue resurfacing work before the games start I won't be complaining.
    Omar Little wrote:
    My big fear is it will be like a crit around the east end :lol:
    Dodging neds and broken glass... fun! :)
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    As I understand it, the courses are designed by the sport section organising committee (my employer) with oversight from the technical committee of the UCI and input from Glasgow City Council, Strathclyde police etc.

    East end regeneration is a big part of the strategy so would be expecting it to lean in that direction, plus it would give the police an easier ride if they could just shut off a few streets and not bother with a rolling road closure at what will be their busiest time in years. I should add that, very limited knowledge of the TT course aside, I have no insight into the plans.

    I would also add that I was out over the two campsie climbs mentioned on Sunday and I wouldn't take a 3/4 race over them at present.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    I would also add that I was out over the two campsie climbs mentioned on Sunday and I wouldn't take a 3/4 race over them at present.
    How's the north side of the Crow Road looking at the moment? Haven't been out there for a few months but it wasn't in great shape back in the autumn to put it mildly. Not so bad if you're going up it but wouldn't want to be going down it particularly fast...
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
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    adr82 wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    I would also add that I was out over the two campsie climbs mentioned on Sunday and I wouldn't take a 3/4 race over them at present.
    How's the north side of the Crow Road looking at the moment? Haven't been out there for a few months but it wasn't in great shape back in the autumn to put it mildly. Not so bad if you're going up it but wouldn't want to be going down it particularly fast...

    I've been over the crow both ways since Christmas and would say the surface on your side of the road as you descend towards Fintry isnt so bad... until you get to the dangerous bit at the bottom where it is sketchy. I think if you tried to take an international road race down it you'd have a mutiny. The Carron Valley road was, as per usual, a joke.
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  • IanLD
    IanLD Posts: 423
    Would keep big Al busy at wheelcraft if they used those roads!

    At least there will be a chance to see the RR and TT - not so sure about getting back in to the velodrome after the struggle to get tickets for November's world cup...
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    IanLD wrote:
    Would keep big Al busy at wheelcraft if they used those roads!

    At least there will be a chance to see the RR and TT - not so sure about getting back in to the velodrome after the struggle to get tickets for November's world cup...

    It'll probably be even more difficult for the Games. Saying that, I didn't have a problem getting tickets for all 3 days in November. Love my BC membership!
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Any news yet on either the route or the date of the test event? Unsure whether it's the Nationals or not.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Alan A wrote:
    Any news yet on either the route or the date of the test event? Unsure whether it's the Nationals or not.

    I've seen the proposed route for the RR and it is indeed a city race on a 14km circuit taking in the city centre, west end and starting and finishing on Glasgow Green. You'll also see some of the steep hills to the west of the city centre. On the QT, you understand.
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Good, so they've gone for the show off the city's crown jewels option.

    I predict it roughly follows the city tour bus route or something roughly like http://goo.gl/maps/HFyU9

    So we'll go past (in no particular order) Squinty bridge, Armadillo, Kelvingrove, Riverside Museum, School of Art, George Square, up West Campbell St, Candleriggs.

    I'd love to see them go up Blythswood St or West Campbell St.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Alan A wrote:
    Good, so they've gone for the show off the city's crown jewels option.

    I predict it roughly follows the city tour bus route or something roughly like http://goo.gl/maps/HFyU9

    So we'll go past (in no particular order) Squinty bridge, Armadillo, Kelvingrove, Riverside Museum, School of Art, George Square, up West Campbell St, Candleriggs.

    I'd love to see them go up Blythswood St or West Campbell St.

    You're not a million miles away. Some pedestrianised streets look likely to be included, some parks also.
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  • ozzzyosborn206
    ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    this is what i am led to believe
    Alan A wrote:
    Any news yet on either the route or the date of the test event? Unsure whether it's the Nationals or not.
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    You're not a million miles away. Some pedestrianised streets look likely to be included, some parks also.

    Oooooh slaloming between the trees down Sauchiehall street, past the steps at the concert hall, bunnyhopping Buchanan Subway station and then being entertained by the blind buskers on Argyle st outside Next.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    BBC SPORT

    1546:
    CYCLING

    British Cycling announces the 2013 Elite Men's and Women's National Road Race Championships will be hosted in Glasgow.

    The event, which takes place on Sunday 23 June, will form part of the proposed course for the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games.
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/road/article/roa20130121-British-Cycling-Announces-Host-City-for-National-Road-Race-Championships-0
    Commonwealth Games host city to hold first combined Road Race and Time Trial championship.

    British Cycling has today announced that it has awarded the hosting of the 2013 Elite Men’s and Women’s National Road Race Championships to the city of Glasgow.
    The event, which takes place on Sunday 23 June, will form part of the proposed course for the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games, and with the majority of racing based within Glasgow’s city centre, will provide a spectacular backdrop for an epic weekend of elite level cycling.
    The bid to be host city for the National Championships saw British Cycling receive unprecedented interest from towns and cities around the country. Jonny Clay, British Cycling’s Cycle Sport and Membership Director said:
    “In recent years we’ve seen our national road championships won by riders who between them have won numerous Olympic and World Championship medals, as well as the Tour de France. The stature of the event and the calibre of the riders who contest it have been reflected in the competition to host the race for 2013.
    “We received some great applications and there were several bids that would each have provided a fantastic National Championships. We’d like to express our thanks to all those who bid for the event in 2013 and we hope to reward their enthusiasm by working with many of them to create other new events in the future”
    Speaking of their delight at being awarded the event, Councillor Archie Graham, the Deputy Leader of Glasgow City Council and the Executive Member for the Commonwealth Games, said:
    "There’s never been a more exciting time for cycling in Britain thanks to the outstanding performances of our cyclists at the London 2012 Olympic Games and last year's Tour de France. Glasgow is committed to the development of cycling at all levels as shown by our investment in the £113million Emirates Arena which includes the Sir Chris Hoy Velodrome.
    “Our desire to bring major events such as the 2013 National Road Championships to the city with events such as this and the recent UCI Track Cycling World Cup, which sold out in under half an hour, will help inspire the next generation of cyclists to fall in love with the sport."
    For the first time in its history, the 2013 road championship will see the National Time Trial Championship contested as part of the same weekend as the road race events, meaning the championships will be present in the city for an extended period from Thursday 20th when the time trials will take place to Sunday 23rd when the men’s and women’s road races will take centre stage.
    Further detailed information about the British Cycling National Road Race championship weekend will be released in the coming weeks.
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  • Omar Little
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    Thats the routes been announced now http://www.glasgowlife.org.uk/events/NR ... urses.aspx

    The surprise is that the TT is in Stewarton rather than Glasgow, whereas the RR route was already known to be a circuit in the city.

    The RR route doesnt look particularly tough - a few lumps which aren't too bad on their own but after 10+ times up them full gas it will no doubt hurt a fair bit and alot of corners. Not sure if the route goes along Buchanan street or not, if its wet that could get messy as its pedestrianised with smooth slabs.
  • oneof1982
    oneof1982 Posts: 703
    Got to hand it to the burgers at Glasgow Cooncil. This race is slap bang in the City Centre.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Those are awful maps! Wonder what the thinking was... "Let's make them look cool at the cost of actually making them useful as maps!"?

    I agree with you on the RR route, by the latter stages bits like Great George Street will be trouble for a lot of people. Happy it goes around the Glasgow Uni campus, very nearby for me!

    Also anyone want to work out what that weird overhanging spike on the elevation profile is (between Gibson St and Lynedoch St)?
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    the weird overhanging bit is probably because the gps got confused with the tight right hander at Lobby Dosser's that double backs up the hill towards Park Circus.

    If it is wet then Lobby Dosser's @ Halt bar will be the place to watch them turn right and go up the hill, then run round the corner to watch the crashes as they come off the cobbles of Lyndoch Cres back onto Woodlands.

    Gt George St should have a massive carnival atmosphere.

    See me, I'm excited.
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  • disgruntledgoat
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    I'm already scoping pubs for the day.

    I don't think I could survive Byers Road for an entire afternoon without murdering somebody... Dram?
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Woodlands Rd:

    Old School House, Dram, Halt, Arlington, The Drake.
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  • disgruntledgoat
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    Alan A wrote:
    Woodlands Rd:

    Old School House, Dram, Halt, Arlington, The Drake.

    That's that sorted then! BR day oot?
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  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Alan A wrote:
    Woodlands Rd:

    Old School House, Dram, Halt, Arlington, The Drake.

    That's that sorted then! BR day oot?

    Aye.

    Gotta feel sorry for http://www.siemprebicyclecafe.com so close to the action but no view.
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