Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

Pross

kingstongraham said:

Pross said:

rick_chasey said:

I always refer to the PAs or EAs as colleagues. Just think it sounds a bit less d!ckish.

If they are working with you then yes. Having a sign on your office door saying 'colleague entrance' would make no real sense though would it as the sign is there to tell people who don't work there they shouldn't use that door and therefore staff or employee is the sensible term to use.

In that case, people who work there who aren't staff or employees wouldn't be allowed through. Or maybe anyone who is an employee of any company would be allowed through.

Authorised persons only then.

monkimark

I don't care about people smoking weed as long as they aren't blowing smoke into my house but it is worrying how much weed smoke is billowing out of car windows on my commute into work in the morning. I'm also slightly baffled as presumably most of those people are also on their way into work or why would they be up at 7am?

pblakeney

monkimark said:

...I'm also slightly baffled as presumably most of those people are also on their way into work or why would they be up at 7am?

Going home?

pinno

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I always refer to the PAs or EAs as colleagues. Just think it sounds a bit less d!ckish.

What's the alternative? I assume the world has moved on from "girls".

"My PA" as opposed to "My colleague x"

Err... 'Secretary' ?

rick_chasey

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I always refer to the PAs or EAs as colleagues. Just think it sounds a bit less d!ckish.

What's the alternative? I assume the world has moved on from "girls".

"My PA" as opposed to "My colleague x"

Err... 'Secretary' ?

Yeah, even worse.

I figure in this modern world it makes sense because a) they are literally colleagues and b) they're at least as valuable as I am - I could not do half the sh!t I am paid to do without them, so why not just refer to them as that, and avoid the pejorative terms?

kingstongraham

Why would PA be a pejorative term?

rick_chasey

kingstongraham said:

Why would PA be a pejorative term?

Well they don't work for me, for starters. It's more hierarchical, wouldn't you say?

kingstongraham

rick_chasey said:

kingstongraham said:

Why would PA be a pejorative term?

Well they don't work for me, for starters. It's more hierarchical, wouldn't you say?

No, plenty of places have PAs that work for multiple people or a department. I'd have thought it makes things clearer about where business decisions can be made and where admin is happening. If that's the job title, it's fair enough. If the job title was "contract administrator", then makes sense to refer to them as "our contract administrator".

TheBigBean

TheBigBean said:

Kids (5-11) travel for free on TfL services, but not on overground trains. Adults can seamlessly combine a TfL journey and an overground service into a single charge. Kids travelling the same route which often doesn't even pass ticket machines need to get one somewhere halfway. This annoys me.

After further research, I discovered a map that clarifies each station. It doesn't help my annoyance. For example:
- Farringdon to St Pancras - kids are fine with a parent
- Stratford to Romford - kids need a ticket unless they have splashed out on a special £10 oystercard in which case they don't need tickets
- Finsbury Park to Potters Bar - kids need a ticket, special Oystercard isn't free, but might help to buy a kids ticket automatically. Might not as well.

All can be done as one journey by adults one Oyster payment by adults.

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/free-travel-areas-without-oyster-adult-accompanying-map.pdf

shirley_basso

PAs and EAs are colleagues.

But on a sign which effectively means 'staff only' don't write 'colleagues onl

kingstongraham said:

rick_chasey said:

kingstongraham said:

Why would PA be a pejorative term?

Well they don't work for me, for starters. It's more hierarchical, wouldn't you say?

No, plenty of places have PAs that work for multiple people or a department. I'd have thought it makes things clearer about where business decisions can be made and where admin is happening. If that's the job title, it's fair enough. If the job title was "contract administrator", then makes sense to refer to them as "our contract administrator".

I checked with my PA about how to refer to her. She said fine, that's my job.

shirley_basso

rick_chasey said:

Standard Thursday evening tbh. Not staged no.

Also, standard dress code. Do you lot not wear suits to work?

Thursday night leadenhall market. SB reporting live (walking past)

pinno

rick_chasey said:

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I always refer to the PAs or EAs as colleagues. Just think it sounds a bit less d!ckish.

What's the alternative? I assume the world has moved on from "girls".

"My PA" as opposed to "My colleague x"

Err... 'Secretary' ?

Yeah, even worse.

Really?

There's some senior posts labelled 'secretary' - Secretary of State for Justice. Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs etc.
'Secretary' of a company?

I bet none of them complain.
So, is 'secretary' (at that level) riddled with stereotype and therefore, we can't use this noun?

Definition:
A Secretary is a person who is employed to do office work, such as typing letters, answering phone calls, and arranging meetings.

PA: a secretary or administrative assistant working exclusively for one particular person.

^ What's the real difference?

We can't use the word 'disabled'.
We have trouble with using the term 'black' in regards to ethnicity.
You can't call your secretary a 'secretary.
We add multi bollox such as Asset facilities manager (a company that employs a bunch of janitors and cleaners; concierges at best).

As my friend and Sealink worker said "We rotate jobs. Last night I was the ceramic engineer". Meaning he was in charge of cleaning the toilets.

pinno

The plain English foundation:

https://www.plainenglishfoundation.com/documents/10179/73292/Fancy-pants_job_titles.pdf

rick_chasey

Alright grandad

morstar

You can't buy class.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60866369

shirley_basso

Have you not tried spending more?

rick_chasey

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/25/new-rail-contract-award-go-ahead-branded-sick-joke-thameslink-southern-great-northern-

This.

Sh!tbags, the lot of them. What a way to reward a useless service.

The deal is a management contract, which, unlike franchises, has no cost risk to the operator.

Stevo_666

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

pinno said:

rick_chasey said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I always refer to the PAs or EAs as colleagues. Just think it sounds a bit less d!ckish.

What's the alternative? I assume the world has moved on from "girls".

"My PA" as opposed to "My colleague x"

Err... 'Secretary' ?

Yeah, even worse.

Really?

There's some senior posts labelled 'secretary' - Secretary of State for Justice. Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs etc.
'Secretary' of a company?

I bet none of them complain.
So, is 'secretary' (at that level) riddled with stereotype and therefore, we can't use this noun?

Definition:
A Secretary is a person who is employed to do office work, such as typing letters, answering phone calls, and arranging meetings.

PA: a secretary or administrative assistant working exclusively for one particular person.

^ What's the real difference?

We can't use the word 'disabled'.
We have trouble with using the term 'black' in regards to ethnicity.
You can't call your secretary a 'secretary.
We add multi bollox such as Asset facilities manager (a company that employs a bunch of janitors and cleaners; concierges at best).

As my friend and Sealink worker said "We rotate jobs. Last night I was the ceramic engineer". Meaning he was in charge of cleaning the toilets.

Exactly. It's just a descriptive term. It's not like you walk up to them and say, Hello, PA.

Let be rid of this PC bollox.

rick_chasey

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

pinno

rick_chasey said:

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

Wtaf?

rick_chasey

Lol go check out his latest speech.

He’s been railing against western political correctness for some time

pinno

rick_chasey said:

Lol go check out his latest speech.

He’s been railing against western political correctness for some time

But he is a despot and despots will use anything for their propaganda.

Will you then take this to another level and say that if you are anti PC then you are against democracy and support despotism?

kingstongraham

I stand with you in this part of the fight against redefining language.

It will always be PC for me, too. Down with those who try to get "woke" onto its lawn.

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

You do talk some right bollox sometimes.

rick_chasey

Ah relax you lot. Take a look at his latest speech and see how much you recognise.

I’d suggest he thinks the culture wars are a helpful fracture to pick at in Western countries.

Anyway, here’s the last word on the matter (which shows how long it’s been going on for)


https://youtu.be/x_JCBmY9NGM

Jezyboy

rick_chasey said:

A group of European politicians voted Zelensky for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Now, I'm not gonna sit here and slate the guy off - he's literally a hero - but surely a Peace Prize for being the leader of an invaded country and leading the fight back is not really appropriate for a peace prize?

The peace prize is a bit of a joke anyway.

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

You do talk some right bollox sometimes.

Whereas you talk rightiebolox all of the time?

orraloon

Jezyboy said:

rick_chasey said:

A group of European politicians voted Zelensky for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Now, I'm not gonna sit here and slate the guy off - he's literally a hero - but surely a Peace Prize for being the leader of an invaded country and leading the fight back is not really appropriate for a peace prize?

The peace prize is a bit of a joke anyway.

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

You do talk some right bollox sometimes.

Whereas you talk windupbollox all of the time?

FTFY

Stevo_666

Jezyboy said:

rick_chasey said:

A group of European politicians voted Zelensky for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Now, I'm not gonna sit here and slate the guy off - he's literally a hero - but surely a Peace Prize for being the leader of an invaded country and leading the fight back is not really appropriate for a peace prize?

The peace prize is a bit of a joke anyway.

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

At least Putin agrees with you, eh?

You do talk some right bollox sometimes.

Whereas you talk rightiebolox all of the time?

You joining Raverboy under the bridge?

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

TheBigBean said:

Kids (5-11) travel for free on TfL services, but not on overground trains. Adults can seamlessly combine a TfL journey and an overground service into a single charge. Kids travelling the same route which often doesn't even pass ticket machines need to get one somewhere halfway. This annoys me.

After further research, I discovered a map that clarifies each station. It doesn't help my annoyance. For example:
- Farringdon to St Pancras - kids are fine with a parent
- Stratford to Romford - kids need a ticket unless they have splashed out on a special £10 oystercard in which case they don't need tickets
- Finsbury Park to Potters Bar - kids need a ticket, special Oystercard isn't free, but might help to buy a kids ticket automatically. Might not as well.

All can be done as one journey by adults one Oyster payment by adults.

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/free-travel-areas-without-oyster-adult-accompanying-map.pdf

Yes, it's a mess. AFAIK it's the result of not being able to reach a deal between GTR and TfL on how they divvy up fare receipts.

seanoconn

3 mobile have turned my adult filter on for reasons unknown and I can’t turn it off so now I have to call someone in India to tell them I’m a pervert.