Drugs in other sports and the media.
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YorkshireRaw wrote:Surrey Commuter wrote:Bo Duke wrote:
Excellent point - forfeiting 10 points would drop a leading club out of Europe or cause a team to be relegated, but sure would create overnight player/club accountability!YorkshireRaw wrote:Massive incentive to dope in football - the money as already mentioned, plus the fact if a player is caught & sanctioned they get a ban, but don't think the club forfeits any results?
If memory serves me right Arsenal had a case like this (their opponent) in the Champions League and under UEFA rules two players have to fail a drugs test and you forfeit the game 3-0. As they only test one player this would seem to be unlikely to happen.
Handy that, almost seems contrived to not let that situation arise.....
In cup comps it would be a total farce - the next round could have been played by the time the drug testing results would be announced - so what happens then?
seems my memory was slightly out - but still seems impossible to get a club punishment
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Rick Chasey wrote:awavey wrote:Unless a club is organising it on a mass scale I cant see how they can be held responsible given footballers are pretty much never under their complete control or even influence at times.
They're employees of the club.
You'd be up in arms if a whole load of dodgy bankers used that as an excuse to get off charges of manipulating markets.
Football clubs at the top end have far more control over footballers and their training etc. than Cycling teams do. All training sessions take place at the club training grounds (or under supervision of the club coaches when away) and they have full on physio, medical backup etc.. Clubs see the players almost every day.
Clubs have been known to hold players passports for them as they can't be relied upon to remember to bring them for foreign trips etc.
In modern cycling there is certainly more contact with the top riders and their teams, with more training camps etc., but they still spend hours / days / weeks off training on their own or in small groups.0 -
Bo Duke wrote:Look at the intensity of Liverpool's performances these days, week after week. If any performance enhancement substances are used its to enable quick recovery and build strength/stamina and to avoid injury. Just like cycling. If Sakho was caught taking his wife's slimming tablets (if you believe that) then I'm pretty sure its the tip of the iceberg. There's too much money at stake.
They must have forgotten the secret recipe in December/January then as performances were decidedly leg weary and lacking in intensity.0 -
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Amounts to less than 0.02% of their annual wage bill.Seriously punitive, eh? Surprised to see the 'scoop' buried as an insignificant sideline by Daily Mail of course. No sign of Lawton - the the seeker of truth and justice all things doping - shouting his mouth of on TalkSport as yet...0
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Or, to put it even more starkly, less than one day's wages for Sergio Aguero... :roll:pedro118118 wrote:Amounts to less than 0.02% of their annual wage bill.Seriously punitive, eh?Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
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zebulebu wrote:
Or, to put it even more starkly, less than one day's wages for Sergio Aguero... :roll:pedro118118 wrote:Amounts to less than 0.02% of their annual wage bill.Seriously punitive, eh?
or roughly the same amount FIFA fined the FA for poppygate
it does sound more like their current guidelines on fines are wholly inadequate, its not that they simply picked a derisory amount, it was pretty much the total limit they could fine in this case, whether they go about correcting that for the future we will have to wait and see.0 -
awavey wrote:zebulebu wrote:
Or, to put it even more starkly, less than one day's wages for Sergio Aguero... :roll:pedro118118 wrote:Amounts to less than 0.02% of their annual wage bill.Seriously punitive, eh?
or roughly the same amount FIFA fined the FA for poppygate
it does sound more like their current guidelines on fines are wholly inadequate, its not that they simply picked a derisory amount, it was pretty much the total limit they could fine in this case, whether they go about correcting that for the future we will have to wait and see.
It's that a fine is not an appropriate sanction.0 -
Bournemouth the latest football club to be charged with ignoring the whereabouts rules/regulations. No sign yet of a Select Committee being convened to get to the bottom of the 'scandal'. Or any tabloid 'scoops' calling for the heads of Mssrs Guardiola, Howe et al...0
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It's because football is "sacred" and "so different to all other sports"
The same as they never had video replays as it was such a special sport, despite pretty much every other top sport having them0 -
Paul 8v wrote:It's because football is "sacred" and "so different to all other sports"
The same as they never had video replays as it was such a special sport, despite pretty much every other top sport having them
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/386551020 -
pedro118118 wrote:Bournemouth the latest football club to be charged with ignoring the whereabouts rules/regulations. No sign yet of a Select Committee being convened to get to the bottom of the 'scandal'. Or any tabloid 'scoops' calling for the heads of Mssrs Guardiola, Howe et al...
Well, that's not true, a select committee is conducting a top down review or football in the UK, the FA and anti-doping. They've have published an extensive report to improving governance including doping.0 -
Mo Farah, hardly surprising, fairly clear he was doping for sometime.
Wiggins, Farah, the Russians, nothing has changed.0 -
Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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Gweeds wrote:
That's a very weak statement from Farah. No doubt there will be a lot of sitting on hands from UKAD and USADA on this one.0 -
Since it's the weekend didn't you fancy, you know, watching some cycling?0
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weekendcyclingfan wrote:Gweeds wrote:
That's a very weak statement from Farah. No doubt there will be a lot of sitting on hands from UKAD and USADA on this one.
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Mad_Malx wrote:Since it's the weekend didn't you fancy, you know, watching some cycling?
Yes, in the 48 hour period that was the weekend, I managed to cycle an hour on Saturday, 4 hours on Sunday, watched the last 45 minutes to an hour of both races and read the front page of the Sunday Times on Mo Farah's drug use. This week I get to do some more cycling and watch the Freeman, Cope, UKAD triple header at the CMS championships
You guys can read newspaper too if you like, you can take an interest in all facets of the sport, the racing, the tactics, the drug use (by Wiggins) and riding oneself.0 -
weekendcyclingfan wrote:Mad_Malx wrote:Since it's the weekend didn't you fancy, you know, watching some cycling?
Yes, in the 48 hour period that was the weekend, I managed to cycle an hour on Saturday, 4 hours on Sunday, watched the last 45 minutes to an hour of both races and read the front page of the Sunday Times on Mo Farah's drug use. This week I get to do some more cycling and watch the Freeman, Cope, UKAD triple header at the CMS championships
You guys can read newspaper too if you like, you can take an interest in all facets of the sport, the racing, the tactics, the drug use (by Wiggins) and riding oneself.
It's quite sweet that you refer to the use of any product as drug use.0 -
Rodrego Hernandez wrote:weekendcyclingfan wrote:Mad_Malx wrote:Since it's the weekend didn't you fancy, you know, watching some cycling?
Yes, in the 48 hour period that was the weekend, I managed to cycle an hour on Saturday, 4 hours on Sunday, watched the last 45 minutes to an hour of both races and read the front page of the Sunday Times on Mo Farah's drug use. This week I get to do some more cycling and watch the Freeman, Cope, UKAD triple header at the CMS championships
You guys can read newspaper too if you like, you can take an interest in all facets of the sport, the racing, the tactics, the drug use (by Wiggins) and riding oneself.
It's quite sweet that you refer to the use of any product as drug use.
Sweets is what Sagan consumed after the race. Drug use appears to be associated with the likes of Wiggins and Farah.0 -
Thank you to whoever clued me in on the 'friends' and 'foes' featureFat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
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weekendcyclingfan wrote:Rodrego Hernandez wrote:weekendcyclingfan wrote:Mad_Malx wrote:Since it's the weekend didn't you fancy, you know, watching some cycling?
Yes, in the 48 hour period that was the weekend, I managed to cycle an hour on Saturday, 4 hours on Sunday, watched the last 45 minutes to an hour of both races and read the front page of the Sunday Times on Mo Farah's drug use. This week I get to do some more cycling and watch the Freeman, Cope, UKAD triple header at the CMS championships
You guys can read newspaper too if you like, you can take an interest in all facets of the sport, the racing, the tactics, the drug use (by Wiggins) and riding oneself.
It's quite sweet that you refer to the use of any product as drug use.
Sweets is what Sagan consumed after the race. Drug use appears to be associated with the likes of Wiggins and Farah.
Looks like yours are still in your system too. Maybe get the dosage lowered?0 -
Please don't get this thread locked. I enjoy reading articles posted about other sports0
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As Cruff said, thanks to the folks who explained how to block certain posters. I didn't get a chance to thank you before the last thread was locked down!
Please don't let one person wreck this thread. Can't we all just ignore him/her?0 -
don't block him , he`s funny0
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tim000 wrote:don't block him , he`s funny
He stopped being funny a while ago, he's just nauseating now. That ignore thing is gold!0 -
The person I have blocked is just plain boring0
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Rodrego Hernandez wrote:tim000 wrote:don't block him , he`s funny
He stopped being funny a while ago, he's just nauseating now. That ignore thing is gold!
Yeah but you'll see my latest post is directly after yours where you suggest wcf is on drugs.
I'm not defending wcf's opinions, but it's that kind of personal attack that got the other threads shut down.
I wasn't fussed about the other threads, but if this thread is locked I'll be annoyed0 -
TakeTheHighRoad wrote:Rodrego Hernandez wrote:tim000 wrote:don't block him , he`s funny
He stopped being funny a while ago, he's just nauseating now. That ignore thing is gold!
Yeah but you'll see my latest post is directly after yours where you suggest wcf is on drugs.
I'm not defending wcf's opinions, but it's that kind of personal attack that got the other threads shut down.
I wasn't fussed about the other threads, but if this thread is locked I'll be annoyed
Fair comment. He's on the block list now which hopefully will make tomorrow a bit more bearable. Tomorrow has the potential to be a career fukcer for some but in reality will leave certain people still desperate to answers that they are never going to get.0
