Drugs in other sports and the media.

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  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    This bike - my dream bike - is under 7 kilos.

    pantani_1998_mu_bianchi_full_view_600.jpg

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/mar ... rto-corse/
    I had this frame back in the day twitchy as f**k never got on with it, flogged it pretty quick.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    I would like to know the percentage gain. I'm sure with the tech available now this could be achieved. Rollers a machine turning the pedals being measured.

    I guess it may have been done.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    davidof wrote:
    Fallout continues in the Johaug case:

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2016/10/17/ ... eputation/

    Norwegian press highly critical of their sports federation. The queen of Norwegian skiing's crown has slipped.

    looks all very familiar sadly.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    RichN95 wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Agreed. But tennis is the motherload I reckon
    No-one will touch tennis. The journos like their seats on centre court and the newspaper editors' wives like the hospitality boxes.
    The big sports offer Wimbledon, Twickenham, Wembley and Lords. Cycling offers a big screen in a school gym in Nantes. That's why 'chief sports writers' go after cycling, so the are excused of going after other sports.


    Lol maybe :D I still laugh at the indignation of Andy Murray at having to be available. After all theres no drug problem in Tennis. spoiled little rich kids.
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,124
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Fallout continues in the Johaug case:

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2016/10/17/ ... eputation/

    Norwegian press highly critical of their sports federation. The queen of Norwegian skiing's crown has slipped.

    looks all very familiar sadly.

    it does and because we've heard it all before it is hard not to be completely cynical.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Agreed. But tennis is the motherload I reckon
    No-one will touch tennis. The journos like their seats on centre court and the newspaper editors' wives like the hospitality boxes.
    The big sports offer Wimbledon, Twickenham, Wembley and Lords. Cycling offers a big screen in a school gym in Nantes. That's why 'chief sports writers' go after cycling, so the are excused of going after other sports.


    Lol maybe :D I still laugh at the indignation of Andy Murray at having to be available. After all theres no drug problem in Tennis. spoiled little rich kids.
    To be fair to Murray, he then changed his attitude quite dramatically (around the time of the Armstrong case)
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Isn't murray one of those who vocally denounced Cilic, lack of testing and the strange amount of player with life threatening heart conditions.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    He is
    _
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Fallout continues in the Johaug case:

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2016/10/17/ ... eputation/

    Norwegian press highly critical of their sports federation. The queen of Norwegian skiing's crown has slipped.

    looks all very familiar sadly.

    To the Alain Baxter case yep...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,124
    ddraver wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    davidof wrote:
    Fallout continues in the Johaug case:

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2016/10/17/ ... eputation/

    Norwegian press highly critical of their sports federation. The queen of Norwegian skiing's crown has slipped.

    looks all very familiar sadly.

    To the Alain Baxter case yep...

    It now turns out that very little testing is done in cross country skiing outside of competition. Johaug had gone 129 days without testing before the positive test. So it seems that other endurance sports have yet to catch up with cycling. One Norwegian pro cyclists said he was tested 2 a month out of season included.

    Lots of noise coming from the various interested bodies that they are not convinced by the sunscreen excuse. Presumably a proper examination will be able to shed more light. In the Baxter case the amounts of the drug were trace.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Rita Jeptoo banned for 4 years.

    Rita Jepfour from now on.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Joelsim wrote:
    Rita Jeptoo banned for 4 years.

    Rita Jepfour from now on.
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,124
    Olympics drug testing chaos

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/ ... WEML6619I2

    Drug testing is optional, it seems.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    T'was ever going to be thus in Rio...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    whilst some F1 drivers could do with a swear jar it seems, according to Jenson Button, he says he hasnt been tested for years or knows anyone who has either, and there are no longer any post race tests carried out, yet apparently they fill in the whereabouts data everyday.

    http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one ... rug-tested
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    What a shame

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/38151494
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Richard Mclaren issues the second final report on Russian state doping, available on the website. "Over 1000 athletes involved who benefited. The Russians corrupted London 2012 on unprecedented scale."
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    read about it on the BBC. Two women had male urine ! Not actually read the proper report or seen any details on other websites yet.

    Seems to be far too focused on Russia though, I doubt they are the only nation who are cheating.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    edited December 2016
    sherer wrote:
    read about it on the BBC. Two women had male urine ! Not actually read the proper report or seen any details on other websites yet.

    Seems to be far too focused on Russia though, I doubt they are the only nation who are cheating.


    Naturally its focused on Russia. Because it all started with the Stepanovs whistle-blowing about what was going on in Russia, Hajo Seppelt talking to them and ARD showing his programmes. Then WADA setting up the Independent panel led by Pound, and what they found resulted in the McLaren-led reports.

    To do real investigations, you need:

    1. credible whistle-blowers providing credible evidence
    2. investigative journos digging further
    3. co-operating witnesses
    4. a platform for those journos to publish in print and via broadcast to get max impact
    5. AD agencies running with it
    6. Budget for the above - and this is important. WADA's budget is ridiculously small given their brief - and the national AD agencies' budgets are for the main part, tiny
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Blah Blah Blah

    (That's literally Russia Today's response to the report.)
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    sherer wrote:
    read about it on the BBC. Two women had male urine ! Not actually read the proper report or seen any details on other websites yet.

    Seems to be far too focused on Russia though, I doubt they are the only nation who are cheating.


    Naturally its focused on Russia. Because it all started with the Stepanovs whistle-blowing about what was going on in Russia, Hajo Seppelt talking to them and ARD showing his programmes. Then WADA setting up the Independent panel led by Pound, and what they found resulted in the McLaren-led reports.

    To do real investigations, you need:

    1. credible whistle-blowers providing credible evidence
    2. investigative journos digging further
    3. co-operating witnesses
    4. a platform for those journos to publish in print and via broadcast to get max impact
    5. AD agencies running with it
    6. Budget for the above - and this is important. WADA's budget is ridiculously small given their brief - and the national AD agencies' budgets are for the main part, tiny

    and 7. The rozzers.

    That's why it's gonna be trickt for Russia. 'cos the rozzers are helping with the doping.
    _
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    What did we expect their response to be? They've assassinated someone on foreign soil putting ordinary folks lives in danger, shot down a passenger jet and gotten away with both - a state sponsored doping programme is a drop in the ocean.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Dinyull wrote:
    What did we expect their response to be? They've assassinated someone on foreign soil putting ordinary folks lives in danger, shot down a passenger jet and gotten away with both - a state sponsored doping programme is a drop in the ocean.
    I expected something a little more sophisticated than 'Blah Blah Blah'. Perhaps sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting 'Not Listening' or a statement saying 'It takes one to know one'.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Always amazed at the American and UK hosts from Russia Today when they're interviewed by other stations/programmes. They stick up for the state to the Nth degree.

    For eg, one of the hosts was interviewed by Panorama or some other investigative journalism show re. the plane being shot down. She went into detail into her own investigations about how it was highly probable a Ukrainian Military Jet shot it down and not a Buk anti-aircraft missile. She even named the pilot.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Dinyull wrote:
    Always amazed at the American and UK hosts from Russia Today when they're interviewed by other stations/programmes. They stick up for the state to the Nth degree.

    For eg, one of the hosts was interviewed by Panorama or some other investigative journalism show re. the plane being shot down. She went into detail into her own investigations about how it was highly probable a Ukrainian Military Jet shot it down and not a Buk anti-aircraft missile. She even named the pilot.


    Watch the same thing happening in the US under the new Agent Orange administration. The US is about to be turned into an authoritarian regime, albeit a kleptocracy

    Apologies, didnt mean to derail the thread
  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    In other news
    British Triathlete visits Contador's Mexican butcher

    http://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/british-triathlete-tests-positive-banned-substance-itu-grand-final-cozumel/
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blah Blah Blah

    (That's literally Russia Today's response to the report.)
    Thats because they're not accountable to their own people and therefore laugh at the international world.

    Sad, sad, sad.
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    In other news
    British Triathlete visits Contador's Mexican butcher

    http://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/british-triathlete-tests-positive-banned-substance-itu-grand-final-cozumel/

    British Triathlon have issued a statement and said "The athlete concerned is not a member of British Triathlon’s World Class Performance Programme."
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    r0bh wrote:
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    In other news
    British Triathlete visits Contador's Mexican butcher

    http://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/british-triathlete-tests-positive-banned-substance-itu-grand-final-cozumel/

    British Triathlon have issued a statement and said "The athlete concerned is not a member of British Triathlon’s World Class Performance Programme."
    There are loads of age group categories. GB athletes won two gold medals in the 70-74 age group. It was always more likely to be someone like that than a Brownlee that some would hope for.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    I see football is linked in the latest mclaren report, no doubt FIFA will be all over that

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