Drugs in other sports and the media.

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,354
    There's really no need for that ^, whether it was directed at me or anyone for that matter.
    I certainly didn't expect a comment like that from you, it's out of character. If you have a problem with me, send me a PM and we'll thrash it out.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    To be fair the thread would have been a lot shorter if Ugo didn't keep being wrong! :wink:
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    Pross wrote:
    To be fair the thread would have been a lot shorter if Ugo didn't keep being wrong! :wink:

    180 pages, I probably intervened the first time at page 170... :roll:

    I'd also like to point out that the thread refers to "other sports" and you keep going on about cycling TUEs

    I'll take my coat now
    left the forum March 2023
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I'll take my coat now
    Surely if you're a cyclist you shouldn't be taking anything?
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    bompington wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I'll take my coat now
    Surely if you're a cyclist you shouldn't be taking anything?



    Every one's a winner
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,354
    Wiggo on Newsnight in 15 mins. I presume it's about the TUE's.

    Let's see how the BBC mangl..., sorry handle the story.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Not exactly drugs... but let's salute the great Ross Tucker's role in exposing cheating everywhere in the world...
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... tands-tall
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,354
    dish_dash wrote:
    Not exactly drugs... but let's salute the great Ross Tucker's role in exposing cheating everywhere in the world...
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... tands-tall

    I don't know that to make of that, nor the reference to SKY or Nike and what relevance it has. Or the reference to TUE's for that matter. Seemed like an interesting article with a hurried summary which attempted (in vain) to make a somewhat questionable point.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,656
    Pinno wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    Not exactly drugs... but let's salute the great Ross Tucker's role in exposing cheating everywhere in the world...
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... tands-tall

    I don't know that to make of that, nor the reference to SKY or Nike and what relevance it has. Or the reference to TUE's for that matter. Seemed like an interesting article with a hurried summary which attempted (in vain) to make a somewhat questionable point.

    I'm close to attributing the SKY nonsense directly to Tucker. That's all part of his standard spiel, it wouldn't surprise me if he went off topic n that direction in a telephone interview and it just got mashed into the article. It probably seemed to make sense at the time.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Yep, certainly had his sticky fingerprints over it though possibly mixed with the Guardian taking the chance to have a pop at a rival media group.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,354
    Pross wrote:
    Yep, certainly had his sticky fingerprints over it though possibly mixed with the Guardian taking the chance to have a pop at a rival media group owned by Murdoch.

    FTFY - they have never exactly been fans of him, have they? Diametrically opposed.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Yep, exactly. Tucker and the paper both got their chance for a dig in a completely unrelated story.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    Only this forum is still talking about it, the rest of the world has moved on.
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • spam02
    spam02 Posts: 178
    Sharapova ban reduced to 15 months

    An International Tennis Federation statement says: "The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) panel found that Ms Sharapova had a reduced perception of the risk that she took while using Mildronate, because (a) she had used Mildronate for around ten years without any anti-doping issue, (b) she had consulted the Russian doctor who prescribed the Mildronate for medical reasons, not to enhance her performance, and (c) she had received no specific warning about the change in status of meldonium from WADA, the ITF, or the WTA.

    "In addition, the CAS panel considered that it was reasonable for Ms Sharapova to entrust the checking of the Prohibited List each year to her agent."

    RE: the last statement, what happened to Strict Liability?
  • bflk
    bflk Posts: 240
    dish_dash wrote:
    Not exactly drugs... but let's salute the great Ross Tucker's role in exposing cheating everywhere in the world...
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... tands-tall

    SKINS haven't done too badly out of the story overall, raised awareness of their brand (which I'd never heard of until the Rob Young cheating saga began) then (supposedly) high moral position in dealing with it.

    The general point the Guardian article made is a fair one I thought.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Surprised you haven't heard of SKINS before. Jamie Fuller is a self-styled crusader for ethics in sport and set up Change Cycling Now. He probably claims credit for bringing down McQuaid!
  • dolan_driver
    dolan_driver Posts: 831
    I'd imagine Sharapova will get some abuse when she next steps on court. She might suffer a permanent, "inexplicable", drop in form! Time will tell.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    Pross wrote:
    Surprised you haven't heard of SKINS before. Jamie Fuller is a self-styled crusader for ethics in sport and set up Change Cycling Now. He probably claims credit for bringing down McQuaid!

    He also funded that utter tosh "Not normal" nonsense from Vayer remember :roll:
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    SPaM02 wrote:
    Sharapova ban reduced to 15 months

    An International Tennis Federation statement says: "The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) panel found that Ms Sharapova had a reduced perception of the risk that she took while using Mildronate, because (a) she had used Mildronate for around ten years without any anti-doping issue, (b) she had consulted the Russian doctor who prescribed the Mildronate for medical reasons, not to enhance her performance, and (c) she had received no specific warning about the change in status of meldonium from WADA, the ITF, or the WTA.

    "In addition, the CAS panel considered that it was reasonable for Ms Sharapova to entrust the checking of the Prohibited List each year to her agent."

    RE: the last statement, what happened to Strict Liability?


    What an utter load of B.S.

    I actually expected more of CAS to see through excuses like this and uphold the rule of strict liability.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Anyone seen the tweets from Head Tennis congratulating Sharapova on the CAS decision. Yes you read it correctly, they have put out a statement congratulating her for getting a reduced ban! :shock:
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    Pross wrote:
    Surprised you haven't heard of SKINS before.
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    ??
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Once shared a very busy train carriage with the one at the front.

    She sat on the floor. Like I was gonna give up my seat. :|
    _
  • dolan_driver
    dolan_driver Posts: 831
    What a fooking joke. It looks like drugs cheat Sharapova is clean-as-a-whistle, according to some of her sponsors.

    http://www.the42.ie/nike-porsche-maria- ... 0-Oct2016/

    I suppose that is acceptable given that tennis is, as we all know, a squeaking-clean sport and Sharapova's positive dope test result was obviously an aberration in the history of this spotlessly-clean sport. Quite right too! :D

    DD.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Dolan Driver wrote:
    What a fooking joke. It looks like drugs cheat Sharapova is clean-as-a-whistle, according to some of her sponsors.

    http://www.the42.ie/nike-porsche-maria- ... 0-Oct2016/

    I suppose that is acceptable given that tennis is, as we all know, a squeaking-clean sport and Sharapova's positive dope test result was obviously an aberration in the history of this spotlessly-clean sport. Quite right too! :D

    DD.



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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Saw an interview with her today, and she said 'people take [Meldonium] like Aspirin in Russia.'

    Ha ha ha.
  • spam02
    spam02 Posts: 178
    Dolan Driver wrote:
    What a fooking joke. It looks like drugs cheat Sharapova is clean-as-a-whistle, according to some of her sponsors.

    http://www.the42.ie/nike-porsche-maria- ... 0-Oct2016/

    I suppose that is acceptable given that tennis is, as we all know, a squeaking-clean sport and Sharapova's positive dope test result was obviously an aberration in the history of this spotlessly-clean sport. Quite right too! :D

    DD.

    I can't believe that rather than have the good grace to accept the reduced ban she goes on the attack against the ITF. First trying to shift the blame to them for not doing enough to publicize the changes to the prohibited list, and then has a moan about them trying to make an example of her to others - oh the irony!
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    It really is a million miles away from Wiggins' treatment isn't it. The media seems to have decided he's now "dirty" yet Sharapova isn't getting that treatment despite failing an actual test...
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    She's a looker though. Looks and sex appeal for marketing campaigns get you the big money, lawyers and better media treatment.

    Which one would you have preferred on your teenage wall in a provocative pose? Wiggins or Sharapova?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    A classic Russian move.
    _
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,354
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    A classic Russian move.

    Not the Sicilian defense?
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!

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