science vs religion

welshkev

thekickingmule

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

welshkev

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

don't you think that's funny though? :? i think it's brilliant

i have nothing against people who are religious if it brings them some sort of comfort. but not shooting a girl in the head ffs

EH_Rob

You're wrong, she was an infidel.

Clank

For once, and I'm hating to admit this, I'm with Gervais on this.

cooldad

He's a dickhead but that is funny.

thekickingmule

welshkev wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

don't you think that's funny though? :? i think it's brilliant

i have nothing against people who are religious if it brings them some sort of comfort. but not shooting a girl in the head ffs

I think I've just got bored of his ranting. It's all over Reddit as the American Atheists seem to love him. It seems to be strange that over the pond, Athesists seem to be an underground cult and Ricky has just jumped on the bandwagon.

Doesn't bother me whether people are for or against religion, I think it's just Ricky I don't like.

cicatriz

Clank wrote:

For once, and I'm hating to admit this, I'm with Gervais on this.

^ This

YeehaaMcgee

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

There's a big difference between people who don't have religious beliefs, and people who call themselves atheists.
Atheists are generally the most horrible people I've met, and approach the subject with the same zealotry as religious fundamentalists.

pesky_jones

thekickingmule wrote:

I think it's just Ricky I don't like.

This! ^^

Religion never used to bother me as if it brings comfort & happiness to people then whats wrong with that? Untill I saw some christians mocking atheists. It just made me so angry lol

thekickingmule

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

There's a big difference between people who don't have religious beliefs, and people who call themselves atheists.
Atheists are generally the most horrible people I've met, and approach the subject with the same zealotry as religious fundamentalists.

Completely agree!

cat_with_no_tail

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

There's a big difference between people who don't have religious beliefs, and people who call themselves atheists.
Atheists are generally the most horrible people I've met, and approach the subject with the same zealotry as religious fundamentalists.

Agreed. A cnut is a cnut. Religious or not. And Gervais is a monumental cnut.

welshkev

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

thekickingmule wrote:

I don't understand why he's so anti-religious. Fair enough, he's an atheist. He just seems to be hamming it up for the American audience, as they seem to have really big atheist/religion arguements, whereas here it's more like 'meh'.

There's a big difference between people who don't have religious beliefs, and people who call themselves atheists.
Atheists are generally the most horrible people I've met, and approach the subject with the same zealotry as religious fundamentalists.

yeah, there's a book called the god complex by some one dawkins. i thought i'd like to read it as it was touted as a book arguing about evolution etc and i thought it'd be interesting.

i gave up after about 10 pages as the guy was just ranting about how there is no god and anyone who believes is a knobber....put me off really

YeehaaMcgee

The thing is, I don't believe in a god, and find the concept of religion (as applied to my view of the world) as a bit childish and daft, like still believing in Santa claus. Hell, at least Santa Claus has "evidence" to support his existence, didn't your parents leave stuff under the tree or by the fire or wherever for you, and tell you it was from Santa?

Anyway, as much as I don't believe, I also realise that there's a human need to believe "something", so I don't deride anyone for believing in religion. We're not all the same, that's one of the fascinating things about life.
Unlike matters of engineering, or science, I won't try to "correct" anyone's religious beliefs, since they are deeply personal, and can often be tied to their sense of self.

What I will not accept, is when people try to impose their beliefs on me. I leave them alone for having their beliefs, and I expect them to reciprocate.
Atheists, don't do that. They try to force their world view on others.

cat_with_no_tail

I happen to share the view that Jesus did in fact exist at some stage. Not in the magical sense christianity teaches, but in the sense he was a dude who existed around the time and did some pretty nice things for people, had some pretty radical views for the time and ultimately paid with his life because he stepped on the wrong toes (hurst more when wearing sandals you see).
The story has been told, passed on, told again, embelished slightly, suddenly he's a magical being with superpowers.

No harm in believing those stories if it helps you deal with whatever happens to be going on with your life, but I'm in agreement with yeehaa, I'll not often share my views on it, and I don't much care to have other peoples views pushed upon me.

The whole thing with religion is that it's deliberately open to interpritation. Unfortunately, this also leaves it open to abuse by people. It's a belief, and as such, people are willing to devote theirselves to it wholeheartedly, they will kill, or die for it. People see this, and exploit it for their own gains.

Oh, and Atheism is a belief too. and as said above they can be just as bad, if not worse, than the god squad for trying to force their views on people.

cat_with_no_tail

Ohhhhhhh, religion in the crudcatcher again. IIRC the last time we did this the banhammer had to be brought out.

*grabs popcorn*

EH_Rob

Cat With No Tail wrote:

had some pretty radical views for the time and ultimately paid with his life.

Are you suggesting Jesus invented the 29er?

cat_with_no_tail

I said radical, not retarded.








*runs*

YeehaaMcgee

EH_Rob

Thinking about it, he had a beard, and wore sandals, so I'm almost certain he did.

He's got a lot to answer for.

welshkev

Cat With No Tail wrote:

Ohhhhhhh, religion in the crudcatcher again. IIRC the last time we did this the banhammer had to be brought out.

*grabs popcorn*

ha ha, i didn't realise that, i just thought it was funny. i think i'll grab some popcorn and sit and watch as well

VWsurfbum

Just for the record, i dont have a beard (at the moment) i dont wear sandles (they're flip flops) but i do have a 29er although i didnt invent it.
That said i do have magical powers and a large following.

VWsurfbum

Cat With No Tail wrote:

A cnut is a cnut. Religious or not. And Gervais is a monumental cnut.

Oh and this

EH_Rob

VWsurfbum wrote:

That said Jimmy Saville and I are rather alike.

FTFY

cat_with_no_tail

VWsurfbum wrote:

Just for the record, i dont have a beard (at the moment) i dont wear sandles (they're flip flops) but i do have a 29er although i didnt invent it.
That said i do have magical powers and a large following.

That makes you the pied piper of hamelin, not Jebus.

EH_Rob

Wait a second, Jimmy Saville had a large following and a large obvious.

Sorry for the confusion.

Clank

FFS. For the record, I have a beard. And two pairs of sandels.

I have bouncy forks, multiple gears and 26" wheels on all but the crosser. As well as being single-speed free, I cannot walk on water, cure the sick (unless you count involuntary euthanasia as 'curing') nor feed the amassed multitude armed with only a copy of Nigellisma, two warbutons and tin of frikkin sardines.

I'm crap at carpentry. As was my dad.

It is apperent that this forum is nothing more than a thinly veiled home for those with an anti-beardist agenda, I tells ya. I'm on to you lot.

On other news, religous veiwpoints are like penises, unless its consentual, ramming either down someones throat is liable to lead to all manner of trouble!

thekickingmule

I too have face fuzz, you're not alone Clank. my beard's ginger, which makes me extra special. And extra Jesus-like, because as we all know, Jesus was white with gingerish hair

YeehaaMcgee

thekickingmule wrote:

I too have face fuzz, you're not alone Clank. my beard's ginger, which makes me extra special.

thekickingmule

Who gave you that photo!?

It doesn't show me in the right light and I had a cold that day!

VWsurfbum

Clank wrote:

religous veiwpoints are like penises, unless its consentual, ramming either down someones throat is liable to lead to all manner of trouble!