Cut-throat shaving
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Upgrade you say?So I ve gotten the hang of this now. What would y'all consider to be a good "upgrade" from my Parker 90R TTO razor that came with my Bluebeard Starter Pack? I'd like something a smidge more aggressive if possible
The Mühle R41 is a renowned aggressive razor. In fact the original 2011 version was nicknamed "The Beast". In 2013, the apparently toned it down a bit, but by all accounts you still need great technique. It's the open comb that makes it more aggressive, but moves all of the shaving detritus away from the blade.0 -
I bought 2 years supply of Derby blades, daily use, for £7.99. There's a lot to be said for old style shaving.Fine hair. As is evidenced by the lack up top.
So that basically means I have 3 years (weekend use) worth of blades! :shock:
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I use each number twice. If you are very hairy once may suffice. Sometimes you get one that isn't quite as sharp and I only use it once as it doesn't feel right. But the other side is fine.A query on the blades.
I noticed that the Derby ones have numbers 1-4 on them.
Is this an indicator? Use once each way, 4 times total per blade?
it's never occurred to me to turn the blade over when using the same edge for a second time. Why does turning it over make any difference?0 -
Fine hair. As is evidenced by the lack up top.
I use each number twice. If you are very hairy once may suffice. Sometimes you get one that isn't quite as sharp and I only use it once as it doesn't feel right. But the other side is fine.A query on the blades.
I noticed that the Derby ones have numbers 1-4 on them.
Is this an indicator? Use once each way, 4 times total per blade?
So that basically means I have 3 years (weekend use) worth of blades! :shock:
Again, this is VERY blade dependent. I used Derby blades for a long time and found them good for four shaves maximum. I then did the "assortment pack" thing and found that the Gillette 7o'clock (yellow) were good for about the same but the Wilkinson Sword just go on for ever. I reckon I get at least ten shaves out of each blade and even then I'm changing because I'm thinking "I can't remember when I last changed a blade" rather than "ouch, that really isn't a good shave".Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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A massive change of mind tonight.
I am now back down to 4 shaves per blade, maximum. Tonights shave was nowhere near as pleasurable. :x
Fresh side tomorrow, and also other manufacturers to try.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Re different sides of the blade. Nowadays I just shave 3 or 4 sweeps till the razor is all covered in foam on one side, then switch it round and use the other side for 3 or 4 sweeps, then rinse.
Blades. My recommendation for Astras was for beginners because of their lack of aggression.
Best thing is to get a mixed pack and try them all. I got about 8 different types of blade and worked through them in rotation. After around a year settled on Feathers and bought 100 of those.
Personal likes. Personna Med preps, Gillette Yellows Astras and feathers. I settled on feathers in the end because I get a good shave and one blade comfortably, (literally,) lasts me 10 or eleven days of daily 2 pass shaves. I get 2 days off a week, Wednesdays and Sunday so swap blades on days off.
I think it's important to try a variety of blades, and once you've tried them all once, try again in the rotation. First time I used Feathers, I hated them. I looked like a butchers shop window. Second time a couple of months later, my technique had improved and they were OK. Third time, I really liked them and bought 2 and a half years worth.
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Thanks for that. I did get a sample pack which included the Astras so I will try them next.Blades. My recommendation for Astras was for beginners because of their lack of aggression.
I did find Wilkinson Swords more forgiving than the Derbys.
I also have - Treets, Lords, Sharks and Gillette 7 O'Clocks.
Any suggestions for an order? Gentle to aggressive.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Thanks for that. I did get a sample pack which included the Astras so I will try them next.Blades. My recommendation for Astras was for beginners because of their lack of aggression.
I did find Wilkinson Swords more forgiving than the Derbys.
I also have - Treets, Lords, Sharks and Gillette 7 O'Clocks.
Any suggestions for an order? Gentle to aggressive.
Phew, Good question. Not tried Treets. Of the others, I would say Gillette 7 o'clocks before Lords and Sharks, but YMMV. I found lords to be strange. They almost pulled a bit and were noisy as the shaved, but not actually uncomfortable and gave a really smooth finish. The Gillette Yellows almost made it to be my bulk choice, Only just beaten by Feathers. If you don't llike one, go back to an Astra In between.
Whatever, enjoy the "You Time," and the fact that soon you can look down pityingly on cartridge shavers, and look down from a great height on Electrics. LOL.
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OK, this is a very unscientific thing to do but I ll have a crack..IMO
Less Sharp_____________________________________________________________More Sharp
Derby > Merkur > Timour > > > Shaving shack "israli" no name blades > Astras > > > Feathers
Remember that too sharp a blade or a blade insufficiently sharp for your personal beard will both give bad results. Also that the need for a sharper blade does in no way reflect masculinity We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Wow!
If Derby is the least sharp then my technique needs a lot of work!
I can definately relate to the thread title.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Wow!
If Derby is the least sharp then my technique needs a lot of work!
I can definitely relate to the thread title.
It's not all about the sharpness. Different blades have a very, very different feel.Trail fun - Transition Bandit
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Wow!
If Derby is the least sharp then my technique needs a lot of work!
I can definitely relate to the thread title.
Or they re too blunt for your hair meaning you press harder, repeat more, get frustrated etc. Try Astras nextWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Or they're blunt on one edge and sharp on the other...ddraver wrote:Wow!
If Derby is the least sharp then my technique needs a lot of work!
I can definitely relate to the thread title.
Or they re too blunt for your hair meaning you press harder, repeat more, get frustrated etc. Try Astras next
Derby were the worst of the blades in my sampler pack, unlike the Feathers that are predictably sharp and work fine on my ordinary, average beard.0 -
The problem with Derbys - in my experience - is that the blades are inconsistent out of the packet, sometimes sharp, sometimes blunt, sometimes both.ddraver wrote:for you - if you find feathers the best then you probably have coarser than average hair.
Feathers have a reputation for being exceptionally sharp and that might be off-putting to a new safety-razor user, but there's really no reason not to give them a try. Feathers are, at least, predictable.
Just one, like most blokes who aren't barbers.ddraver wrote:How many other beards have you tested? 0 -
Thanks for the pointers guys!
I will work my way though the packs that I have. The Wilkinsons are doing well so far.
Astras once that blade is done.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I occasionally indulge in cut-throat shaving of my face but only allowing a good barber to do it. For a bit of fun I followed up some of the research done by Specialized on leg shaving effectiveness on speed, Watts saved etc as referenced in a recent RCUK posting. I posted it in my blog if you're interested at http://geoffnelder.com/why-cyclists-shave-their-legs/0
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Laser Razor...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
Takes the fun out of it, right?
But... lasers0 -
Thanks for the pointers guys!
I will work my way through the packs that I have. The Wilkinsons are doing well so far.
Astras once that blade is done.
That's definitely the best policy. One thing you can see from all of the commenters about the different blades is that they work differently for different people. My viewpoint about the different blades seems entirely different from some others - but that's their face. At least if you try the options, you'll know what's right for your face.0 -
Well, pachyderms do have rather tougher hides than us mere humans.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19715569#p19715569]UndercoverElephant[/url] wrote:Thanks for the pointers guys!
I will work my way through the packs that I have. The Wilkinsons are doing well so far.
Astras once that blade is done.
That's definitely the best policy. One thing you can see from all of the commenters about the different blades is that they work differently for different people. My viewpoint about the different blades seems entirely different from some others - but that's their face. At least if you try the options, you'll know what's right for your face.0 -
Well, pachyderms do have rather tougher hides than us mere humans.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19715569#p19715569]UndercoverElephant[/url] wrote:Thanks for the pointers guys!
I will work my way through the packs that I have. The Wilkinsons are doing well so far.
Astras once that blade is done.
That's definitely the best policy. One thing you can see from all of the commenters about the different blades is that they work differently for different people. My viewpoint about the different blades seems entirely different from some others - but that's their face. At least if you try the options, you'll know what's right for your face.
I'm deep undercover - my skin is near baby's but smooth.0 -
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anyone seen the laser razor thats on kickstarter?!BMC TM01 - FCN 0
Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
Bowman Palace:R - FCN 1
Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
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anyone seen the laser razor thats on kickstarter?!
Couple of days agoLaser Razor...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
Takes the fun out of it, right?
But... lasers
I'm a bit tempted to get one.0 -
The photo of Paul Binun is not a very good advert for the product.anyone seen the laser razor thats on kickstarter?!
Couple of days agoLaser Razor...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
Takes the fun out of it, right?
But... lasers
I'm a bit tempted to get one.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
as a bearded man it has no appeal, but i would be tempted if i start shaving my legs again next yearBMC TM01 - FCN 0
Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
Bowman Palace:R - FCN 1
Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
Premier (CX) - FCN 6
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Decided to try DE shaving after reading this thread, ordered myself a set up from the Traditional Shaving site a few people have linked. I never knew there was such depth to the shaving market, I always thought Gillette etc and their multi bladed bank account sapping blade packs were the only option. Glad I read this thread now. Stuff arrived on Sat and I gave it a go that evening, pleasantly surprised by how close the shave was and the lack of burn, given I'm a total novice and there is clearly a skill to master and plenty of variance in blades to try. Good stuff, cheers everyone.2020 Reilly Spectre - raw titanium
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Likewise.
My other half got me a set for my birthday, and it's quite nice to lock the bathroom door (for once), and have total peace for a shower and take your own damn time shaving. Really, really close shave, and didn't cut myself (world's biggest pack of Astras was ordered).
Could do with a bit of advice, if anyone can help:
I've got Mitchell's Wool Fat soap. Seems alright. What's the best process?
1. Soak brush (I guess the wetter the better)
2. "Buff up" soap puck with wet brush, loading the brush up with as much soap as possible
3. Lather face.
5. Bleed copiously.
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I'm not entirely sure whether my "more is more better-er" approach is right, and it might be a bit wasteful on the soap. Any advice?Sometimes parts break. Sometimes you crash. Sometimes it’s your fault.0 -
Likewise.
My other half got me a set for my birthday, and it's quite nice to lock the bathroom door (for once), and have total peace for a shower and take your own damn time shaving. Really, really close shave, and didn't cut myself (world's biggest pack of Astras was ordered).
Could do with a bit of advice, if anyone can help:
I've got Mitchell's Wool Fat soap. Seems alright. What's the best process?
1. Soak brush (I guess the wetter the better)
2. "Buff up" soap puck with wet brush, loading the brush up with as much soap as possible
3. Lather face.
5. Bleed copiously.
?
I'm not entirely sure whether my "more is more better-er" approach is right, and it might be a bit wasteful on the soap. Any advice?
I go with (on hard soaps like Mitchell's):
1) Soak brush (the hotter the water the better)
2) Rub brush roundy-roundy on the soap for four seconds
3) Rub brush roundy-roundy on my cupped left palm until copious foam
4) Add a bit more water if the foam is too stiff
5) More roundy-roundy on the palm
6) Lather face0
