Men's World TT **Spoiler**

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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    Daz555 wrote:
    Well done to Martin. Great from Dowsett as well.

    Bit of a shame that the WC will only be the second best TTer in the world - but them's the breaks - you can only beat the men on the line on the day.

    :?:
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    skylla wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Well done to Martin. Great from Dowsett as well.

    Bit of a shame that the WC will only be the second best TTer in the world - but them's the breaks - you can only beat the men on the line on the day.

    :?:

    Wiggins innit...
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Daz555 wrote:
    Well done to Martin. Great from Dowsett as well.

    Bit of a shame that the WC will only be the second best TTer in the world - but them's the breaks - you can only beat the men on the line on the day.

    If Cancellara were there, I think Martin would still have had the better of him. You have to remember Martin has had a horrific season, but has finally come into good form.

    .... oh maybe you mean Wiggins :lol: I wouldnt say he is best TTer in the world - granted he has had an absolutely amazing year.
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  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    Tis a pity that the Olympic Gold in the TT isn't the best TTer more like!
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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    pb21 wrote:
    skylla wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Well done to Martin. Great from Dowsett as well.

    Bit of a shame that the WC will only be the second best TTer in the world - but them's the breaks - you can only beat the men on the line on the day.

    :?:

    Wiggins innit...

    :roll:
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Phinney looked devastated... but he can take heart in the fact that he has many years ahead. So does Martin, but Phinney is coming on in leaps and bounds.

    Exciting final 15mins there... for a TT that is :lol:
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Phinney is going to win this seven or eight times, isn't he?
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Very pleased for Martin after his problems in the Tour.

    However, is anyone seriously suggesting that a pre-brandy and cigs Wiggo would not have won today? :mrgreen:
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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    So the fastest nation on push bikes is germany: Arndt should date Martin.
  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    Daz555 wrote:
    Very pleased for Martin after his problems in the Tour.

    However, is anyone seriously suggesting that a pre-brandy and cigs Wiggo would not have won today? :mrgreen:

    Yes, me. But we'll never know for sure, will we?
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    skylla wrote:
    So the fastest nation on push bikes is germany: Arndt should date Martin.


    Err - I see a major flaw with your plan.................
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  • ContrelaMontre
    ContrelaMontre Posts: 3,027
    Daz555 wrote:
    Very pleased for Martin after his problems in the Tour.

    However, is anyone seriously suggesting that a pre-brandy and cigs Wiggo would not have won today? :mrgreen:

    Yes.

    Are you suggesting a pre-cigs Wiggo would've beaten a pre-car crash and broken handed Tone?
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    LangerDan wrote:
    skylla wrote:
    So the fastest nation on push bikes is germany: Arndt should date Martin.


    Err - I see a major flaw with your plan.................


    hahaha classic :lol::lol::lol:
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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    LangerDan wrote:
    skylla wrote:
    So the fastest nation on push bikes is germany: Arndt should date Martin.


    Err - I see a major flaw with your plan.................

    oh dear :oops:
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    skylla wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Very pleased for Martin after his problems in the Tour.

    However, is anyone seriously suggesting that a pre-brandy and cigs Wiggo would not have won today? :mrgreen:

    Yes, me. But we'll never know for sure, will we?

    Also me. At the risk of getting attacked by the Wiggins fanboys, yes Wiggins is a great TT'er but not in the Cancellara or Martin league to be honest.
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  • OffTheBackAdam
    OffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    46 Michael HUTCHINSON IRL 39 +5:22.86
    Well, that answers a few questions!
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    skylla wrote:
    So the fastest nation on push bikes is germany: Arndt should date Martin.
    Isn't that basically how America got Taylor Phinney?
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Did Martin ride on clinchers this time?
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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    OffTheBackAdam wrote:
    46 Michael HUTCHINSON IRL 39 +5:22.86
    Well, that answers a few questions!

    It does indeed!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    emadden wrote:
    skylla wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Very pleased for Martin after his problems in the Tour.

    However, is anyone seriously suggesting that a pre-brandy and cigs Wiggo would not have won today? :mrgreen:

    Yes, me. But we'll never know for sure, will we?

    Also me. At the risk of getting attacked by the Wiggins fanboys, yes Wiggins is a great TT'er but not in the Cancellara or Martin league to be honest.
    Cancellara hasn't beaten Wiggins in a TT over 10km for over two years. He's not the force he used to be (I don't think he cares about TTs much these days).
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  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    Turfle wrote:
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.

    perhaps Martin's crash has something to do with this. perhaps wiggo's form would have something to do with this after a very busy and successful season topping at the tdf and london2012. perhaps check out the TT results of copenhagen in 2011.
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Turfle wrote:
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.

    Of those previous 8 encounters this year, the playing field was level only for the first two (i.e. P-N). In all other TTs Martin was either seriously injured, coming back from serious injury or suffered mechanicals (in addition to either of the foregoing ailments).
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    RichN95 wrote:
    Cancellara hasn't beaten Wiggins in a TT over 10km for over two years. He's not the force he used to be (I don't think he cares about TTs much these days).

    I think his moral is in the gutter also (even though his new sprog just arrived).
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  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    skylla wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.

    perhaps Martin's crash has something to do with this. perhaps wiggo's form would have something to do with this after a very busy and successful season topping at the tdf and london2012. perhaps check out the TT results of copenhagen in 2011.

    Nobody is arguing that a shattered Wiggins would beat a full-strength Martin.

    6 weeks ago he beat Tony Martin by 42 seconds, and Taylor Phinney by 2 minutes. He has been a class above everybody this year.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    emadden wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.

    Of those previous 8 encounters this year, the playing field was level only for the first two (i.e. P-N). In all other TTs Martin was either seriously injured, coming back from serious injury or suffered mechanicals (in addition to either of the foregoing ailments).

    He was perfectly fine for the Olympics.
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Is it me or is Phinney's time a bit suspect ???? - only days ago he was struggling to keep the pace with his BMC team mates. Or am i just being Dr Geert Leinders cynical 8)
  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    Turfle wrote:
    skylla wrote:
    Turfle wrote:
    It is funny how the first great TT Martin does this year is the first one he's not racing against Wiggins in.

    Wiggo of this year would have smoked the Martin of this year on that course. I genuinely don't know how anyone could argue otherwise after their 8 previous encounters this year.

    perhaps Martin's crash has something to do with this. perhaps wiggo's form would have something to do with this after a very busy and successful season topping at the tdf and london2012. perhaps check out the TT results of copenhagen in 2011.

    Nobody is arguing that a shattered Wiggins would beat a full-strength Martin.

    6 weeks ago he beat Tony Martin by 42 seconds, and Taylor Phinney by 2 minutes. He has been a class above everybody this year.

    perhaps me thinks.
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Turfle wrote:

    He was perfectly fine for the Olympics.

    You may have forgotten that he had to pull out of the Tour in its second week due to a badly injured wrist (he was back in a cast). It wasnt exactly ideal preparation for the Olympics the week after the Tour, now was it?
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    Is it me or is Phinney's time a bit suspect ???? - only days ago he was struggling to keep the pace with his BMC team mates. Or am i just being Dr Geert Leinders cynical 8)

    Maybe he just wanted save himself for today rather than going all out for some novelty prize.
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