Hillsborough Report

warreng

supersonic wrote:

Has been quite a reaction to the verdict on some Sheffield forums that I visit. A lot of anger at the decision, many who refuse to believe that some of the Liverpool fans were not deemed to have contributed to the disaster.

That does sadden me but it's entirely understandable - there are a lot of stupid people about. I was there - I know what happened. The was a fan on Radio 5 (Peter Hooton from The Farm) who said that he expected the papers to report the Liverpool fans as heroes not as murderers.

And now I don't give a F.U.C.K what they say

surrey_commuter

WarrenG wrote:

supersonic wrote:

Has been quite a reaction to the verdict on some Sheffield forums that I visit. A lot of anger at the decision, many who refuse to believe that some of the Liverpool fans were not deemed to have contributed to the disaster.

That does sadden me but it's entirely understandable - there are a lot of stupid people about. I was there - I know what happened. The was a fan on Radio 5 (Peter Hooton from The Farm) who said that he expected the papers to report the Liverpool fans as heroes not as murderers.

And now I don't give a F.U.C.K what they say

I believe the binary reporting to be the problem rather than people's stupidity. The papers are reporting that no fans turned up drunk or tickletless. I suspect that they are interpreting a report that says something along the lines that "ticketless and drunk fans were not a significant contributory factor".

A very good article in The Tines today by David Aarronovitch in which he suggests the attitudes of the time led to a series of inevitable (but avoidable) disasters from Aberfan through Kings Cross, Bradford, Heysel, Hillsborough and Herald of Free Enterprise.

warreng

Nah - they're just stupid. Just you watch - it'll be Utd and Chelsea fans (a significant minority anyway) singing "Murderers" next season. And if Forest Or Wednesday were in the Premiership they would too. Everyone else seems to fine with the verdict. Odd that

surrey_commuter

WarrenG wrote:

Nah - they're just stupid. Just you watch - it'll be Utd and Chelsea fans (a significant minority anyway) singing "Murderers" next season. And if Forest Or Wednesday were in the Premiership they would too. Everyone else seems to fine with the verdict. Odd that

If it is any consolation Chelsea fans are like that to everybody - they hiss at Spurs fans. I had to ask why and was told it is to replicate the noise of the gas chambers

warreng

I live in Epsom and I am completely surrounded by Chelsea fans - they're perfectly fine!! I have a good friend who goes to watch Chelsea and also Wasps. At Stamford Bridge he turns into a frothing idiot and quite frankly I'm embarrassed to be seen with him. Whereas in reality he's a lovely bloke.

surrey_commuter

Snap on the Epsom front and agree on the tribalism. It is most bizarre to see teenage girls on the tube proudly singing about having foreskins

warreng

Haha. I'll tell my daughter to stop

surrey_commuter

WarrenG wrote:

Haha. I'll tell my daughter to stop

I only moved 9 months ago - which is the best bike shop for servicing?

warreng

Corridori is pretty good. Nice people as well

surrey_commuter

WarrenG wrote:

Corridori is pretty good. Nice people as well

cheers

warreng

WarrenG wrote:

That same officer was the one that started the lies and smears. Plus he retired on a full pension and plays golf daily at a bournemouth golf course so my sympathy is with the other members of the police that day who actually tried to help the dying

well, well, well.

dodgy

Might actually be worth temporarily closing this thread, very real danger of jeopardising the case.