Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    The one thing I find surprising about Armstrong is that he hasn't turned up on Lindsay Lohan's "Celebrities I have shagged" list yet.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:
    The one thing I find surprising about Armstrong is that he hasn't turned up on Lindsay Lohan's "Celebrities I have shagged" list yet.

    Man, that would totally ruin my perception of her as a misunderstood genius
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    iainf72 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    The one thing I find surprising about Armstrong is that he hasn't turned up on Lindsay Lohan's "Celebrities I have shagged" list yet.

    Man, that would totally ruin my perception of her as a misunderstood genius

    I think your perception is safe for the time being. I don't pay much attention to all that Hollywood stuff but my wife is sort of addicted to news about stars and it seems that whenever she is watching something like that Lindsay's name is always mentioned. From what I can glean out of the bits and pieces that I hear, none of it is, what you might call, good news.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553
    RichN95 wrote:
    The one thing I find surprising about Armstrong is that he hasn't turned up on Lindsay Lohan's "Celebrities I have shagged" list yet.

    She doesn't look enough like his mother does she?
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    I do agree that he would have been a top rider, given a dope free, level playing field.
    Just not the rider who stood on top of the Paris podium, seven times.
    Cycling Weekly 18 March 2014 wrote:
    Mike Knell

    I guess that comment was sort of inevitable, but it’s important to remember that the 1960s were before the era of blood doping – what those guys were (almost universally – testing was laughable and penalties were lax) on was a combination of stimulants and amphetamines and whatever else, and it simply didn’t deliver the sort of insane performance boost that EPO or blood transfusion (whether homologous or autologous..) does. Had Lance only had the 1965′s selection of performance-enhancing substances available to him, he probably wouldn’t have won one Tour, let alone seven.

    At the height of his success I always compared Armstrong with Laurent Brochard being of similar abilities that would never win a TDF. :!:
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    That would be CW trying their best to keep Tom Simpson's legacy intact ... A bit like saying Hitler never dropped the H bomb ...
  • ic.
    ic. Posts: 769
    In a recent interview he's said he feels leaving the winner blank for 7 Tours is "disrespectful to the sport"

    But taking every drug cocktail he could get his hands on, intimidating people, playing his part in damaging cycling's reputation forever, attempting to ruin peoples lives and all the time accusing others of lying and stirring witch hunts against him whilst he told not one ounce of truth to the world - I guess he considers that "respectful" then.

    What a tool

    I wish I didn't pay attention to him, I wish I didn't read the interviews, but some sad act inside me wants to read what ludicrous nonsense it is he spouts time after time. He's still trying to control the narrative, just as he always did. Even now he speaks of himself in the third person so when quotes are taken it seems like it isn't him saying it.

    Outside magazine aren't doing the world any favours by filming that silly puncture repair video either. Though I can see why, because the sad acts like me and the die hard fans will always tune it. Not that it would ever leave a good impression on most of us though. I've no idea what Outside magazine is, but they've assured themselves of one less future customer in me anyway, just incase I did stumble across their product somewhere along the lines

    I even read "Circle of Lies" recently. No idea why, just made me think even less of the little prick. The story of how he sat down with USADA and his lawyers sounded like the sort of full on tantrum my 2 year old would have when he didn't get what he wanted.

    Oh, and guys, Lance says don't put your inner tube dust cap back on. "Don't put that back on" he says in the video, he seems like he means it - like putting it back on could be the worst thing you do today. So I went to the shed to make sure all my inner tubes have dust caps. Just because it made me feel better.
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  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    I think Armstrong is right. Should have been left how it was. There are plenty of other victory's that could be taken away that have not been. The UCI in my view made a mess of things. They knew what was happening but turned a blind eye. All the teams were doping. UCI got a new massive audience and some exciting racing that filled their pockets. In my view Armstrong has become the easy target and taken all the heat.
  • ic.
    ic. Posts: 769
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????
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  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    tuneskyline wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?


    1. We'll for starters the 2 chuckle brothers aka pat & hein are no longer making excuses for this ego maniac !!. Am sure others will come up with a few others some printable some not.
  • ic.
    ic. Posts: 769
    2. A serial cheat and liar is no longer recognised as a 7 time winner but instead seen for the fraud he really is
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,438
    3 Those who had the courage to speak up were vindicated by the truth
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    4. Almost all of the big fish of the EPO era have now been shown for the frauds they are. If you re an 18 year old kid that dreams of winning the Tour 5 times it will put a significant aount of doubt in your mind that you can really get away with it

    Admittedly if you re a lowly domestique looking for a new contract or someone trying to get that neo pro contract, then you may differ, which is why all the other stuff needs to keep happening and improving
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    IC. wrote:
    I even read "Circle of Lies" recently. No idea why, just made me think even less of the little prick. The story of how he sat down with USADA and his lawyers sounded like the sort of full on tantrum my 2 year old would have when he didn't get what he wanted.

    If you listen to the Interview with Macur it's pretty clear that she is really somewhat bitter and twisted about the whole thing. She's another version of dennisn...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ddraver wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    I even read "Circle of Lies" recently. No idea why, just made me think even less of the little prick. The story of how he sat down with USADA and his lawyers sounded like the sort of full on tantrum my 2 year old would have when he didn't get what he wanted.

    If you listen to the Interview with Macur it's pretty clear that she is really somewhat bitter and twisted about the whole thing. She's another version of dennisn...


    She reminds me of a female Kimbo tbh
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    tuneskyline wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?


    1. We'll for starters the 2 chuckle brothers aka pat & hein are no longer making excuses for this ego maniac !!. Am sure others will come up with a few others some printable some not.

    But it was not just Armstrong. They new full well other teams had doping programs.
  • ic.
    ic. Posts: 769
    That's irrelevant. You asked for benefit of his "confession"
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  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    IC. wrote:
    2. A serial cheat and liar is no longer recognised as a 7 time winner but instead seen for the fraud he really is

    The whole pro seen was a fraud. Most other teams were doping. Armstrong was part of that scene. But he did not start it.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    TailWindHome wrote:
    3 Those who had the courage to speak up were vindicated by the truth

    This I agree with. Those brave enough to speak out and were clean or on the outside looking in and knowing the truth. They were not just up against Armstrong but all the riders doping as well.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    IC. wrote:
    That's irrelevant. You asked for benefit of his "confession"

    Your right. But even if Armstrong never confessed with the amount of testimony Tygart had gathered and all his rivals busted their days were numbered.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    tuneskyline wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?

    Easy target? Oh come on, wise up!!! Latest cr@p to spout from his mouth here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-a ... nce-winner

    The good news is he's inching closer and closer to having to give back his ill gotten gains.

    Bye bye Lance.
    'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    Bo Duke wrote:
    tuneskyline wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?

    Easy target? Oh come on, wise up!!! Latest cr@p to spout from his mouth here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-a ... nce-winner

    The good news is he's inching closer and closer to having to give back his ill gotten gains.

    Bye bye Lance.

    We all have our on views on the Armstrong years and some of us see a bigger picture rather than just blaming one person for something that has been going on before and after he raced.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Tuneskyline, I think it might benefit you to go back and read through this thread before repeating half of it at us.

    Or at least it would give us peace from hearing the same old same old for the nth time.
  • tuneskyline
    tuneskyline Posts: 370
    bompington wrote:
    Tuneskyline, I think it might benefit you to go back and read through this thread before repeating half of it at us.

    Or at least it would give us peace from hearing the same old same old for the nth time.


    Don't like my view....tough. Perhaps you would benefit form this.

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,656
    tuneskyline wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    Tuneskyline, I think it might benefit you to go back and read through this thread before repeating half of it at us.

    Or at least it would give us peace from hearing the same old same old for the nth time.


    Don't like my view....tough. Perhaps you would benefit form this.

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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    tuneskyline wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    Tuneskyline, I think it might benefit you to go back and read through this thread before repeating half of it at us.

    Or at least it would give us peace from hearing the same old same old for the nth time.


    Don't like my view....tough. Perhaps you would benefit form this.

    FORUM , a public facility to meet for open discussion

    Couldn't agree more.

    As for "same old same old" I think that goes for both sides.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    bompington wrote:
    Tuneskyline, I think it might benefit you to go back and read through this thread before repeating half of it at us.

    Or at least it would give us peace from hearing the same old same old for the nth time.
    Agreed

    Tunesskyline then says if you don't like my view, etc which misses the point that if you did go back then he would see his point has been covered so many times. yawn, yawn.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Bo Duke wrote:
    tuneskyline wrote:
    IC. wrote:
    Oh don't be so short sighted, what a load of nonsense. Easy target????

    I have my opinion and you have yours. Can you tell me how cycling has benefited from the Armstrong confession?

    Easy target? Oh come on, wise up!!! Latest cr@p to spout from his mouth here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-a ... nce-winner

    The good news is he's inching closer and closer to having to give back his ill gotten gains.

    Bye bye Lance.

    I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe, ol' LA is going to become something of an anti-hero, if you will. And through no doing of his own. Right now he's being pursued by lawyers, Government agencies, maybe a big corporation or two, possibly by the police or someone / something of that nature. Now none of these people pursuing him are anyone that have any kind of loyal following. I certainly don't give a sh*t about doping enforcement agencies,or lawyers or big corporations who are trying to cash in on all this and yet were willing participants not so long ago. He could become the Keith Richards of cycling. Loved by millions because he's an outlaw, doesn't live by convention, and flaunts it all right in the face of authority. Actually, my kind of guy.

    It could happen?
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    There are several things that have come up that are spot on.

    1) Lance is a scumbag
    2) He's not the only one
    3) He shouldn't be treated any differently, don't forget he was left behind by the Gewiss boys too
    4) It still goes on, but to a lesser degree
    5) Are the riders to blame? No, the system was/is.
    6) Lance is f*cked (which is divine retribution for his appalling treatment of others)
    7) The problem is not yet solved
    8) There is much more to come out (most of it already suspected I'm sure)

    EDIT:

    Interesting how my 8 in brackets has turned into a face. Not intentional.

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