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  • Garryboy
    Garryboy Posts: 344
    bobinski wrote:
    Seems that Angels's was rather popular today...
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/167753

    Shakey start though, headphones kept falling off! then i dropped my chain twice moving onto the big ring but managed to eventually get going :roll:

    It would be great if you could link a video to a workout so that whenever you did the workout again the video automatically started.A bit more integration would save this klutz much setting up time :)

    It should remember where your copy of angels or other video workouts are located once you've dropped them in once. Does for me.
  • cervelovan
    cervelovan Posts: 2
    Hello from Vancouver Canada (yes, one of your former colonies ;-)

    I love TrainerRoad. I was a runner for many years but a stupid one, never did the proper base training or structure. Just hammered. Started cycling 4 years ago at age 53 and then Triathlon a year later and still not training properly.

    TrainerRoad is perfect for me, It's like having a Coach right there, but at $10/month. I just finished Intermediate Base 1 on Saturday and plan to do my 2nd FTP test this Tuesday. (20 minute test) First FTP test was 230 which is weak, and at my weight of 170lbs at 5'10", a measly 2.98/W/Kg. On the charts, I barely clear Fair :( but good incentive to both lose weight and increase power. Wish I had done this kind of training years ago.

    Of course, if my FTP goes up, the Intermediate Base 2 wil be even harder and I will suffer :)
  • cervelovan
    cervelovan Posts: 2
    damov2 wrote:
    Just finished my 20 minute test, felt like I left a little to much in the tank for the first half and tried to compensate in the second half. Not sure if that will have a massive effect on the test, but will see if the 8 minute test on tuesday gets me similar results.

    FTP is now 290 and LTHR is 136

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/168062

    If any of you more experienced guys could have a look and tell me if looks ok?

    Wow, it will be interesting to see how you do next time, with a more equal effort throughout, but huge difference between your HR and Power. What's your HR Max? Interesting article here about that aspect http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/ ... friel.aspx
  • bobinski
    bobinski Posts: 570
    Garryboy wrote:
    bobinski wrote:
    Seems that Angels's was rather popular today...
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/167753

    Shakey start though, headphones kept falling off! then i dropped my chain twice moving onto the big ring but managed to eventually get going :roll:

    It would be great if you could link a video to a workout so that whenever you did the workout again the video automatically started.A bit more integration would save this klutz much setting up time :)

    It should remember where your copy of angels or other video workouts are located once you've dropped them in once. Does for me.

    Ta, i tried again last night and rather than dragging and dropping the video in i tried the alternative browse for file and works perfectly. Cheers.
  • damov2
    damov2 Posts: 66
    cervelovan wrote:
    damov2 wrote:
    Just finished my 20 minute test, felt like I left a little to much in the tank for the first half and tried to compensate in the second half. Not sure if that will have a massive effect on the test, but will see if the 8 minute test on tuesday gets me similar results.

    FTP is now 290 and LTHR is 136

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/168062

    If any of you more experienced guys could have a look and tell me if looks ok?

    Wow, it will be interesting to see how you do next time, with a more equal effort throughout, but huge difference between your HR and Power. What's your HR Max? Interesting article here about that aspect http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/ ... friel.aspx

    I don't know my HR max as I've not tested it, and if I understand that article its telling me Im i have a decoupled heart rate, which if im honest im not a 100% what that means for me?
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  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Did the 8 minute test on thursday and just done Angels tonight before starting the Base 1 program on tuesday.

    Possibly the hardest session I've done. I think when doing Sufferfest with perceived effort I'd put the pedal down too much at times while taking the foot off the gas at others. Was really impressed with doing it with TrainerRoad. Had a bit of sick in my mouth towards the end of the second 8 minute climb :mrgreen:

    Had to slightly drop off at times but there's always next time.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/169020
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    daveyok wrote:
    Lamarck is a bit shock to the system!
    After Base I, mainly in the sweet spot, to go to10 min threshold intervals (at a higher FTP) with only 2 min rests.........it's no easy introduction to Base II.
    Yep, I tried that the first time and failed miserably, so did it again on a spare day and didn't fare a lot better. A tough introduction to Base II at a new FTP!
    wardieboy wrote:
    daveyok wrote:
    Just done Palisade.
    Finding everything tough since my FTP was upped.

    If you hit Palisade through following the Base II plan then wait until you get to 'The Thumb', after following Base I and now progressing through Base II this is the hardest workout I've done on trainerroad so far.
    Interesting that quite a few folk are finding Base II tough after completing Base I, particularly at your new FTP. That actually makes me feel a lot better, because I'm a few weeks in and it's killing me! :roll:
    daveyok wrote:
    On the last over of the final set, the wife & child decided it would be "funny " to open the garage door and throw a snowball at my backside. Haven't stopped laughing since I got back from the computer repair shop. :lol:
    - Brilliant! :lol::lol::lol:

    Cheers,
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  • Crozza
    Crozza Posts: 991
    JGSI wrote:
    Crozza wrote:
    I think my version of trainerroad is broken - during the 20 minutes intervals in Gray the timer slows to an absolute crawl

    anyone else experienced this? :wink:
    I'd synch up just to be sure all your workouts are safe, then uninstall and put the newest version backon assuming your laptop has no other issues

    I've never had an issue with the applet in the 6 months have been using TR.

    sorry this was just a bad attempt at a bad joke!
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    Crozza wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    Crozza wrote:
    I think my version of trainerroad is broken - during the 20 minutes intervals in Gray the timer slows to an absolute crawl

    anyone else experienced this? :wink:
    I've never had an issue with the applet in the 6 months have been using TR.

    sorry this was just a bad attempt at a bad joke!
    Ah. it's a common bug in the software, I think it's the same with everyone's version.
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Got you now ... a known phenonmenonon... I am beginning to hate 3 minute reps... time warp rules apply apparently
  • Garryboy
    Garryboy Posts: 344
    Did Keeler Needle today, was dreading it (just looking at profile and my last TR workout was poor), but it was good fun - one you have to concentrate on to get the ramps right...

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170235
  • mwf28
    mwf28 Posts: 37
    Well because of this thread and all your guys posts ,i ve just signed up to TR! :D or should that be :shock:

    I got a garmin gsc-10 sensor ,a garmin HR strap... garmin ant+ stick ,,,I have had a cycleops fulid II since october last year,just need to get it all set up ...in the spare room instead of the hall where the TT is at the moment.

    Then have get phsyced up to the 20 minute test...Any body got any tips about installation of sensors and the test!
  • damov2
    damov2 Posts: 66
    Well started intermediate base 1 today and did the 8 minute test for the first workout, much smoother than the 20 minute test, tried to go as hard as possible and stay consistent thru both intervals, much happier with my effort today!

    Really not sure how accurate the virtual power is on my trainer, I may have to rent a power meter or get some time on a watt bike.

    FTP = 303 LTHR = 145

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170844
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  • daveyok
    daveyok Posts: 69
    MarkP80 wrote:
    Interesting that quite a few folk are finding Base II tough after completing Base I, particularly at your new FTP. That actually makes me feel a lot better, because I'm a few weeks in and it's killing me!

    Found Newcomb a lot more comfortable and although it's nice to have it easier, part of me feels that if it might as well hurt a lot as a little. Have to remind myself about the bigger picture - it is only base.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170703

    I have realised that the combination of a compact and my trainer (no resistance settings) means I'm under geared for the low cadence drills. Lowest rpm I could get (on the smallest cog) and still hit the target power was 70. My right knee (minus a lot of bone and cartilage) was thankful.
  • handful
    handful Posts: 920
    TR newby here and a very unfit one as well!! Very impressed with the experience though, superb bit of software.

    I decided to test it on Sufferfest revolver as I've done it a few times before and just set my FTP at the base 200. I started off thinking it felt easier that normal until the first couple of intervals and then I realised I obviously hadn't been doing it properly!! I had to wind down to 95% before I died and still struggled to keep up. In the past I guess I put less power out when I needed to take a breather.

    Now I know how it works and what to watch for I will do one of the tests, or maybe both and then start Base 1. I'm a bit embarrassed to post my pathetic first attempt but I am new to this and I am 50 so I've got a few things against me!

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170692
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  • FELTZ95
    FELTZ95 Posts: 90
    Hi, potential TR newbie here. Can anyone tell me whether TR can be used with just the following sensors; I've got a Bryton ANT+ HR sensor and seperate Bryton cadence sensor plus have got a USB stick arriving in the post today or tomorrow. Just having a panic as to whether a speed sensor is essential as my cadence sensor does not have a speed function. Thanks
  • ChrisSA
    ChrisSA Posts: 455
    Hi Feltz95,

    If you want to use virtual power you'll need an Ant+ speed sensor. If you only want to use HR you're all set.
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    handful wrote:
    TR newby here and a very unfit one as well!! Very impressed with the experience though, superb bit of software.

    I decided to test it on Sufferfest revolver as I've done it a few times before and just set my FTP at the base 200. I started off thinking it felt easier that normal until the first couple of intervals and then I realised I obviously hadn't been doing it properly!! I had to wind down to 95% before I died and still struggled to keep up. In the past I guess I put less power out when I needed to take a breather.

    Now I know how it works and what to watch for I will do one of the tests, or maybe both and then start Base 1. I'm a bit embarrassed to post my pathetic first attempt but I am new to this and I am 50 so I've got a few things against me!

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170692

    Do the 2 x 8 min test asap for your 'own' threshold figure - the 200 is not a base figure but just a default software setting.
    Don't worry if the result is higher or lower - interval training does require good pacing techniques - age is no barrier - there is ALWAYS one interval too many where you should blow up.. if you are doing them correctly - don't be sucked into making each workout super hard - make them enjoyable as much as - Eurosport race videos off YouTube/Spotify (Team Sky turbo playlists even).
  • handful
    handful Posts: 920
    JGSI wrote:
    handful wrote:
    TR newby here and a very unfit one as well!! Very impressed with the experience though, superb bit of software.

    I decided to test it on Sufferfest revolver as I've done it a few times before and just set my FTP at the base 200. I started off thinking it felt easier that normal until the first couple of intervals and then I realised I obviously hadn't been doing it properly!! I had to wind down to 95% before I died and still struggled to keep up. In the past I guess I put less power out when I needed to take a breather.

    Now I know how it works and what to watch for I will do one of the tests, or maybe both and then start Base 1. I'm a bit embarrassed to post my pathetic first attempt but I am new to this and I am 50 so I've got a few things against me!

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/170692

    Do the 2 x 8 min test asap for your 'own' threshold figure - the 200 is not a base figure but just a default software setting.
    Don't worry if the result is higher or lower - interval training does require good pacing techniques - age is no barrier - there is ALWAYS one interval too many where you should blow up.. if you are doing them correctly - don't be sucked into making each workout super hard - make them enjoyable as much as - Eurosport race videos off YouTube/Spotify (Team Sky turbo playlists even).

    Thanks JGSI will try and do the 8 minute test tomorrow night....wish it was only 8 minutes!!. As a matter of interest, do you warn against making each workout super hard for physical or psychological reasons? Is it just it would be easy to make excuses if the prospect of busting a gut doesn't appeal?
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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    If you want a super hard week, try the Tour of Sufferlandria starting on Sunday .. tell us how you are feeling after 7 days :wink:
    I am of the opinion, I train to my strengths and how I like to ride/race.
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    JGSI wrote:
    If you want a super hard week, try the Tour of Sufferlandria starting on Sunday .. tell us how you are feeling after 7 days :wink:
    I am of the opinion, I train to my strengths and how I like to ride/race.

    It starts on saturday 26th.Dont want you missing the first day now do we? You're welcome :D
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  • manxshred
    manxshred Posts: 295
    As a matter of interest, do you warn against making each workout super hard for physical or psychological reasons? Is it just it would be easy to make excuses if the prospect of busting a gut doesn't appeal?

    The initial test is important as it sets the difficulty level to your situation. You need to pace the test so that you go as hard as you can maintain for the time. It may take a little while to figure out how to pace yourself.

    Once this is done, it might be a good idea to follow one of the training plans. Not all the workouts should be max efforts as they take a while to recover from.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    mattshrops wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    If you want a super hard week, try the Tour of Sufferlandria starting on Sunday .. tell us how you are feeling after 7 days :wink:
    I am of the opinion, I train to my strengths and how I like to ride/race.

    It starts on saturday 26th.Dont want you missing the first day now do we? You're welcome :D

    So it does... no Rest Day, I see
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  • meesterbond
    meesterbond Posts: 1,240
    After having tried Angels (my 'favourite' Sufferfest) for the first time with TR, I've realised quite how easy I must have been taking it before. Got halfway up Alp D'Huez before my legs gave out.

    Revolver was even worse!

    I'm loving TR though... never worked so hard on the turbo.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    meesterbond wrote:
    After having tried Angels (my 'favourite' Sufferfest) for the first time with TR, I've realised quite how easy I must have been taking it before. Got halfway up Alp D'Huez before my legs gave out.

    Revolver was even worse!
    I'm loving TR though... never worked so hard on the turbo.

    I can't work to perceived exertion either. Those who can save £6 a month :wink:
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    As much as I'd like to have a crack at this, I'm absolutely certain it would kill me! :shock: :?
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    I have actually signed up now. Fairly sure it will end in tears but in for a penny and all that...

    One problem, there is a local reliability ride on sunday which i will do providing the weather is ok. That no doubt will end in some stupid speeds as the strong boys push along on the front. Then later that day i will have to do The Hunted. Hmm its gonna get messy, may have to turn the wick down saturday and sunday.

    Overreach -check
    Adapt - lets see. :D
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  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    JGSI wrote:
    Got you now ... a known phenonmenonon... I am beginning to hate 3 minute reps... time warp rules apply apparently

    What is the 3x3 workout called?
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    ShutUpLegs wrote:
    JGSI wrote:
    Got you now ... a known phenonmenonon... I am beginning to hate 3 minute reps... time warp rules apply apparently

    What is the 3x3 workout called?

    You can use Kaiser or Givens... I tend to amend workouts via the workout creator to suit
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Thanks, Kaiser looks spot on.

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