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Sports items lack of evidence.

ThewaylanderThewaylander Posts: 8,594
edited July 2012 in Health, fitness & training
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18863293

I thought this article was interesting, especially on the area of sports drink and recovery items.
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  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12866954

    viewtopic.php?f=40088&t=12866058
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12866954

    viewtopic.php?f=40088&t=12866058
    That's from the road section. What the hell would we go there for, apart from scoring steroids?
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  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12866954

    viewtopic.php?f=40088&t=12866058
    That's from the road section. What the hell would we go there for, apart from scoring steroids?
    :lol:
  • ThewaylanderThewaylander Posts: 8,594
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40011&t=12866954

    viewtopic.php?f=40088&t=12866058
    That's from the road section. What the hell would we go there for, apart from scoring steroids?

    Well made point LOL

    thought i didnt recognise the posters lol.

    Found it interesting as an article :) fellow mountain bikers
  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    What are you on about?
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    Sardines on brown toast - all you'll ever need.
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  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    What are you on about?

    the artical at the top of the post was very interesting and has given me doubts about spending money on protein shakes.....how did you not get that?
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    What are you on about?

    the artical at the top of the post was very interesting and has given me doubts about spending money on protein shakes.....how did you not get that?
    What doubts do you have?
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    ?
    What reason do you have to believe the marketing hype?
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  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    What are you on about?

    the artical at the top of the post was very interesting and has given me doubts about spending money on protein shakes.....how did you not get that?
    What doubts do you have?

    i dont know wether it is worth me spending money on protein shakes for post gym activities when i dont need it...not really willing to spend 25 quid on something i dont need.
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    You don't need it. There's no reason to consume your nutrients as a drink - they're already in your food, so just make sure you eat a healthy diet.
    It's baffling how many people fall for the marketing hype.
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  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    yeh thats pretty much what the personal trainer said to me. am avoiding stuff like that.
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    very interesting read, especially as i was going to be going buying some potein tomorrow for my heavy gym sessions. just gonna stick to water or fruit juice
    What are you on about?

    the artical at the top of the post was very interesting and has given me doubts about spending money on protein shakes.....how did you not get that?
    What doubts do you have?

    i dont know wether it is worth me spending money on protein shakes for post gym activities when i dont need it...not really willing to spend 25 quid on something i dont need.
    You're referring to weight lifting of some form I assume. If not let me know.

    The programs claims were not about protein but about associated stuff like BCAA's making unsubstantiated claims, anyone with a reasonable interest in sport should know that protein is an essential building block for muscle fibre.

    I worked out roughly earlier that 1 serving of myprotein impact whey - is cheaper and contains more protein than a pint of semi-skimmed milk from ASDA. If you really need it outside of typical diet, there are ways and there are price points.
  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    RDA's of protein vary between lazy people, endurance sport and weightlifting disciplines but 1.5g per lean kg bodyweight probably isn't a bad place to start. Just multiply your weight by 1.5 and if needs be use programs like myfitnesspal to give you an idea of where the intake is,how much and where you could get more.
  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    RDA's of protein vary between lazy people, endurance sport and weightlifting disciplines but 1.5g per lean kg bodyweight probably isn't a bad place to start. Just multiply your weight by 1.5 and if needs be use programs like myfitnesspal to give you an idea of where the intake is,how much and where you could get more.

    lazy people?
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    RDA's of protein vary between lazy people, endurance sport and weightlifting disciplines but 1.5g per lean kg bodyweight probably isn't a bad place to start. Just multiply your weight by 1.5 and if needs be use programs like myfitnesspal to give you an idea of where the intake is,how much and where you could get more.

    lazy people?

    <the general population of people who are non sporty>
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    Even if you're a hardcore weightlifter, there's no need.
    My brother was an European championship weightlifter, and never bothered with any supplements. Just a healthy diet, and a fair bit of meat, and some eggs.
    Just normal food, basically.
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  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    Even if you're a hardcore weightlifter, there's no need.
    My brother was an European championship weightlifter, and never bothered with any supplements. Just a healthy diet, and a fair bit of meat, and some eggs.
    Just normal food, basically.

    this is the kind of advice i have been waiting for. thanks man!
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    its not hardcore weight lifting but yeh essentially. trouble is you get so many different opinions that you dont know what to do.
    Even if you're a hardcore weightlifter, there's no need.
    My brother was an European championship weightlifter, and never bothered with any supplements. Just a healthy diet, and a fair bit of meat, and some eggs.
    Just normal food, basically.
    And if normal food isn't practical?
  • jakjtbjakjtb Posts: 111
    how can normal food not be practical?
    i find that if you just talk, your mouth comes out with stuff - Karl Pilkington
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    jakjtb wrote:
    how can normal food not be practical?
    +potato.
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  • bartimaeusbartimaeus Posts: 1,812
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    how can normal food not be practical?
    +potato.
    +pasta
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  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    jakjtb wrote:
    how can normal food not be practical?
    Supplement wrote:
    sup·ple·ment (spl-mnt)
    n.
    1. Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    how can normal food not be practical?
    Supplement wrote:
    sup·ple·ment (spl-mnt)
    n.
    1. Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.
    I think what you mean is...
    "Sports supplement
    n.
    1.Total bollorks and fabrication by marketing departments.
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  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
    jakjtb wrote:
    how can normal food not be practical?
    Supplement wrote:
    sup·ple·ment (spl-mnt)
    n.
    1. Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.
    I think what you mean is...
    "Sports supplement
    n.
    1.Total bollorks and fabrication by marketing departments.
    Oh go on, explain this one
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    Have you not cottoned on to what this whole thread is about?
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  • t.m.h.n.e.tt.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    YeehaaMcgee wrote:
    Have you not cottoned on to what this whole thread is about?
    Have you?
  • YeehaaMcgeeYeehaaMcgee Posts: 5,740
    The lack of evidence to support sport foodstuffs. Your go. Unless you can offer up some comprehensive studies supporting them, then kindly F the F off.
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