The Annual Phil and Paul Thread!

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    I'm going to be literally turning myself inside out to watch ES and avoid the P&P show!
  • Come on we all have our favourite sayings, mine's "The Heads of State..."

    For those of us of a certain age, that phrase will be forever entwined with Le TdF 1989 and the stage into Aix-Le-Bains when Lemond, Delgado, Fignon, Theunisse and Lejaretta contested the finish.

    *sigh* salad days....

    These days, they've nailed themselves far too closely to Lance over the years and Phil in particular comes across as SPECTACULARLY naive for a grown man who used to run the Milk Race and has covered the Tour for 30+ years
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    I love the 'Viewers' Questions' bit, in what is obviously a tiny studio and a wideangle lens, but they're stting soooo embarrassingly close together and grinning sooooo camply at the camera
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:

    I regularly do this at home.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:

    I regularly do this at home.


    well, maybe we should pick a stage each and voice it and post it here? :D
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I'll do anything but a TT.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    I used to think P&P were great commentators.

    Then I learned about bike racing and realised what inane bollox they talked most of the time.

    They appeal to the 3-week-in-July cycling fans but as soon as you have any understanding of what's actually going on then you realise that they don't.

    YOU??? know more about cycling than guys who make their living attending races, interviewing riders, talking to racers on a day to day basis? Please, get over yourself. :wink:
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,434
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:


    Sorry I'm already booked for an armchair DS role.


    Actually quite like Phil and Paul. They're an institution.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:


    Sorry I'm already booked for an armchair DS role.
    I'm making a full length feature film so that I'm allowed to have an opinion on whether other films are any good.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    They re an institution, entertaining, extremely knowledgable, very experienced commentators.

    Why can't they bring that to the screen?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Squaggles
    Squaggles Posts: 875
    It could be worse , Bob Roll doesn't work for ITV does he ?
    The UCI are Clowns and Fools
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    It could be worse anyone remember John Tesh 1980s with that god awful piano over the top commentary ??? Cheesy yanks will swallow anything.

    Sherwen`s "Big George" "Suitcase of Courage" and "Team Leekygas" Team Euskadi" Etc etc yes we know they are all F****ng TEAMS ya knob. :evil:
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    RichN95 wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Early I know. Just heard this gem on ITV4.

    "They maybe should learn from the women's race....The early worms were....er...the sucessful ones"


    perhaps you could voice a pro bike race and then we can decide if you are good at commentary :idea:


    Sorry I'm already booked for an armchair DS role.
    I'm making a full length feature film so that I'm allowed to have an opinion on whether other films are any good.

    :lol: enjoyed that.
  • skylla
    skylla Posts: 758
    UK now live coverage for every stage on freeview itv4
  • Squaggles
    Squaggles Posts: 875
    Surely Phil has a large enough suitcase of money by now , he has done some shocking stuff for US TV
    The UCI are Clowns and Fools
  • gattocattivo
    gattocattivo Posts: 500
    These days, they've nailed themselves far too closely to Lance over the years and Phil in particular comes across as SPECTACULARLY naive for a grown man who used to run the Milk Race and has covered the Tour for 30+ years

    Do you think they're actually naive or just tailoring their commentary to a largely pro-Lance American audience?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    These days, they've nailed themselves far too closely to Lance over the years and Phil in particular comes across as SPECTACULARLY naive for a grown man who used to run the Milk Race and has covered the Tour for 30+ years

    Do you think they're actually naive or just tailoring their commentary to a largely pro-Lance American audience?

    Comes across as the same.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Floyd Landis would't dope, because his parents are Menonites. His high testosterone? Well Floyd's a mans man... he just has more testosterone than most.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Is Hugh Porter gonna be doing the BBC olympic coverage?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Actually quite like Phil and Paul. They're an institution.

    So's Broadmoor!
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    TheStone wrote:
    Is Hugh Porter gonna be doing the BBC olympic coverage?

    NOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

    Please please let it be Simon Brotherton.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Alan A wrote:
    TheStone wrote:
    Is Hugh Porter gonna be doing the BBC olympic coverage?

    NOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

    Please please let it be Simon Brotherton.

    Sorry.

    Cycling
    TV: Chris Boardman, Jill Douglas, Ed Leigh, Hugh Porter, Jamie Staff.
    Radio: Simon Brotherton, Matt Dawson, Rob Hayles.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheStone wrote:
    Is Hugh Porter gonna be doing the BBC olympic coverage?

    It'll be on Eurosport.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    RichN95 wrote:
    Alan A wrote:
    TheStone wrote:
    Is Hugh Porter gonna be doing the BBC olympic coverage?

    NOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

    Please please let it be Simon Brotherton.

    Sorry.

    Cycling
    TV: Chris Boardman, Jill Douglas, Ed Leigh, Hugh Porter, Jamie Staff.
    Radio: Simon Brotherton, Matt Dawson, Rob Hayles.

    Simon Brotherton deserves a chance on TV IMHO, he's pretty clued up. Porter has commentated at loads of races in Abergavenny over the years and is even more 'random' then! I quite like Jill Douglas, she seems to make sure she's knowledgable about whatever sport she is given to cover. Matt Dawson??? I had no idea who Ed Leigh was so had to Google him, I've seen him on Ski Sunday a few times and seems OK but as he was a snow boarder I'm not sure what his cycling knowledge is like.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    ^^ err, Matt Dawson's an ex rugby player?

    Not sure if you were joking or not.

    Has become a cycling fan, ish, in his old age. From the little I've heard of him on cycling on the radio, he's very much there to be the 'accessible' chap who asks the questions n00bs need asking.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    ^^ err, Matt Dawson's an ex rugby player?

    Not sure if you were joking or not.

    Has become a cycling fan, ish, in his old age. From the little I've heard of him on cycling on the radio, he's very much there to be the 'accessible' chap who asks the questions n00bs need asking.

    Get two cycling experts on the radio talking to each other during a race where not much is happening and they will bore the tits off everyone to be honest. As you say, that's why Dawson's there.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yeah.
    He's pretty enthusiastic about it all and he knows the buttons that get the generic English sports fan going.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    ^^ err, Matt Dawson's an ex rugby player?

    Not sure if you were joking or not.

    Has become a cycling fan, ish, in his old age. From the little I've heard of him on cycling on the radio, he's very much there to be the 'accessible' chap who asks the questions n00bs need asking.

    I knew who he was, I just wasn't sure what his credentials were for commentating on cycling although I think I have heard him do some coverage before now you mention it.
  • alan_a
    alan_a Posts: 1,587
    Last year on 5live Matt Dawson hosted the TdF preview. He was not too bad at it.

    Brotherton oozes knowledge and with years of radio experience deserves to oust Hugh Porter from his BBC spot because he is much much worse than P&P.