All Time TdF Dream Team
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greasedscotsman wrote:Pross wrote:OK here's mine:-
Team Leader - Merckx
Climbers - Luis Herrera, Robert Millar
Sprinter - Zabel (would have had Maertens but think my team leader might object!)
Domestiques - Zoetemelk, Kelly, Voigt, Cancellara, Jalabert
DS - Guimard
You can't have Merckx and Zoetemelk, both TdF winners! Does nobody read the rules?
It's quite difficult picking a super super climber who's not won a Tour.0 -
Surprised at the lack of Zulle love. What's not to like?
Ridiculous TT - more than good enough to be a good domestique in the mountains, along with Poulidor and your climbing specialists.0 -
Purely because I love his name and his 'chaotic' and sometimes lethal sprinting style - Djamolidine Abdoujaparov for sprinter.Current bike: 2014 Kinesis Racelight T2 - built by my good self!0
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Rick Chasey wrote:RichN95 wrote:
More because you need someone who can sit on the front of the peloton for 100km+ day after day.Rick Chasey wrote:RichN95 wrote:Thierry Marie
For the prologue?
I'll have Moser or De Vlaeminck or Zulle do that for me
. Canc can chip in when he wants to.
But the stars have egos (particularly De Vlaeminck). They're not going to do donkey work.
Also Moser & DeVlaeminck didn't achieve a great deal at the Tour. I'm basing my team mostly on Tour achievements.Twitter: @RichN950 -
ok how about a team with no previous tour winners"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Rick Chasey wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Pross wrote:OK here's mine:-
Team Leader - Merckx
Climbers - Luis Herrera, Robert Millar
Sprinter - Zabel (would have had Maertens but think my team leader might object!)
Domestiques - Zoetemelk, Kelly, Voigt, Cancellara, Jalabert
DS - Guimard
You can't have Merckx and Zoetemelk, both TdF winners! Does nobody read the rules?
It's quite difficult picking a super super climber who's not won a Tour.
Could make it really difficult and say you can only pick one rider who's won the KoM and one rider who's won the points!0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Also Moser & DeVlaeminck didn't achieve a great deal at the Tour. I'm basing my team mostly on Tour achievements.
+1
moser is over rated and devlaminck is not as versatile as ja ja"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:Pross wrote:OK here's mine:-
Team Leader - Merckx
Climbers - Luis Herrera, Robert Millar
Sprinter - Zabel (would have had Maertens but think my team leader might object!)
Domestiques - Zoetemelk, Kelly, Voigt, Cancellara, Jalabert
DS - Guimard
You can't have Merckx and Zoetemelk, both TdF winners! Does nobody read the rules?
It's quite difficult picking a super super climber who's not won a Tour.
Could make it really difficult and say you can only pick one rider who's won the KoM and one rider who's won the points!
Challenge accepted.
I'll be back in 30 mins...Ish.0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:Pross wrote:OK here's mine:-
Team Leader - Merckx
Climbers - Luis Herrera, Robert Millar
Sprinter - Zabel (would have had Maertens but think my team leader might object!)
Domestiques - Zoetemelk, Kelly, Voigt, Cancellara, Jalabert
DS - Guimard
You can't have Merckx and Zoetemelk, both TdF winners! Does nobody read the rules?
Balls, was thinking Joop had 2nd as his best
I'm going to go for Poulidor instead then - should get 1st and 2nd now
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mididoctors wrote:ok how about a team with no previous tour winners
Let's just say Merckx is injured......“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Is Voight really good enough to be on a All Time TDF Dream Team?
Or do we just really like him?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:
It's quite difficult picking a super super climber who's not won a Tour.
simoni"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Surprised at the lack of Zulle love. What's not to like?
Ridiculous TT - more than good enough to be a good domestique in the mountains, along with Poulidor and your climbing specialists.
Surely Rominger would be better?0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Is Voight really good enough to be on a All Time TDF Dream Team?
Or do we just really like him?
I don't think he is good enough.
Plenty better than him over the years.0 -
BigMat wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Surprised at the lack of Zulle love. What's not to like?
Ridiculous TT - more than good enough to be a good domestique in the mountains, along with Poulidor and your climbing specialists.
Surely Rominger would be better?
Agreed.
Swap him for Zulle.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:mididoctors wrote:ok how about a team with no previous tour winners
Let's just say Merckx is injured......
the tony rominger or zulle"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
MarksMintness wrote:Purely because I love his name and his 'chaotic' and sometimes lethal sprinting style - Djamolidine Abdoujaparov for sprinter.
He could teach Ferrari a thing or 2 about sprinting
Don't pick Zulle he'd only fall off.0 -
I'd love to say Chiappucci but I can't see him being a team player, worth it for the suicide breaks though.0
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Sorry, Van Impe is so small, I never noticed!greasedscotsman wrote:knedlicky wrote:Merckx
Zabel
Cipollini
Virenque
Van Impe
Jalabert
Kelly
Mottet
Durand
Another day I might take Hinault, and make other changes; initially I had 16-17 names.
Durand is there to lighten things up and to take both the combativity prize and the lanterne rouge!
Another fail, Van Impe won the TdF in 1976!
Then I'll go with Herrera. And while I'm at it, I'll drop Kelly in favour of Vinokourov.0 -
OK, I'll go for...
Lance Armstrong
Alexander Vinokourov
Stefan Schumacher
Floyd Landis
Danilo Di Luca
Roberto Heras
Tyler Hamilton
Ricarrdo Ricco
Michael Rasmussen
Hmm, maybe a bit short on sprinters there...0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:OK, I'll go for...
Lance Armstrong
Alexander Vinokourov
Stefan Schumacher
Floyd Landis
Danilo Di Luca
Roberto Heras
Tyler Hamilton
Ricarrdo Ricco
Michael Rasmussen
Hmm, maybe a bit short on sprinters there...
Bruyneel for DS? Ferrari as team doctor? 0 -
Ps one of your team has never been caught doping :shock:0
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ShinyHelmut wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:OK, I'll go for...
Lance Armstrong
Alexander Vinokourov
Stefan Schumacher
Floyd Landis
Danilo Di Luca
Roberto Heras
Tyler Hamilton
Ricarrdo Ricco
Michael Rasmussen
Hmm, maybe a bit short on sprinters there...
Bruyneel for DS? Ferrari as team doctor?
Yeah, fantastic! Might need an extra team lorry for all the "food suppliments".0 -
ShinyHelmut wrote:Ps one of your team has never been caught doping :shock:
I did think about Pantani as team leader. 0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:OK, I'll go for...
Lance Armstrong
Alexander Vinokourov
Stefan Schumacher
Floyd Landis
Danilo Di Luca
Roberto Heras
Tyler Hamilton
Ricarrdo Ricco
Michael Rasmussen
Hmm, maybe a bit short on sprinters there...
It meets the criteria, only one TdF winner 0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Is Voight really good enough to be on a All Time TDF Dream Team?
Or do we just really like him?
You need someone to do the donkey work. He'll do it without complaint - others may be more talented, very few will do more hard work for a team.0 -
If we're playing by the one Tour Winner allowed rule
Leader: Ullrich in his 2003 form.
Prologue/TTer: Boardman (without crashing out)
Emotionless Pain Machine: Vino (2010 Giro)
Climbers: Robert Millar, Virenque
Super Domos/TTers/Leadout Men: Fabu, Tony Martin
Suicide Attack Person: Voeckler
Sprinter: The Lion King (Cipo)"A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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Pross wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Is Voight really good enough to be on a All Time TDF Dream Team?
Or do we just really like him?
You need someone to do the donkey work. He'll do it without complaint - others may be more talented, very few will do more hard work for a team.
Canc can do it. I can persuade Romminger to. 0 -
ShockedSoShocked wrote:Leader: Ullrich in his 2003 form.
Why not 1997 form?0 -
The most interesting might be if no team members can have won one of the 3 main jerseys in the TdF.0
