Bruuns weight loss thread.

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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    Those kind of products are made up of peppers and caffeine. Peppers to burn slightly more cals by making you warmer,hence your body works to cool you. And caffeine,which lists anxiety as a side effect.

    Save the money and treat yourself to a cheat meal once a week,add cinnamon to porridge and spice up food for the exact same effect without the issues.
  • DavidJB
    DavidJB Posts: 2,019
    Good luck. I lost 4 1/2 stone cycling over 2/3 years! It can be done!
  • Thanks, I wasn't aware caffeine has anxiety as a side effect, that would explain why the first day taking them I found I has my first few anxiety attacks in months within a few hours! Oh well, I wont throw them away, €40 when your not working is a lot, I'll just have to take 1 a day in the meantime unless that causes problems, otherwise they get flushed! LOL :lol:

    David, well done on your goal, that's brilliant!
  • Quick update, only lost 1.4lbs this week, slightly disappointed due to longer cycles, but still, onwards and downwards as the case may be! (A case of Heineken!)
  • Xommul
    Xommul Posts: 251
    Hey mate, good luck on the weight loss. Checked out your photos, good eye for the interesting things in life.

    On weight loss. I lost 4 stone last year, I did plateau a few times but found taking a break for a week or two got things moving again.

    Make sure you weigh In at same time each week and make sure your water intake is consistent. A little dehydration can make you a lot lighter than you should be.

    Concentrate on cutting out the fats, eat your carbs early in the day, take a multi vitamin to keep your body full of the good things. Drink over 2 litres water a day, not including your exercise drink.

    Use a recovery drink after exercise to fuel your body, it will thank you. Incorporate yoga or stretching in your plan. Will prevent injury, develope other muscles and make you more flexible.

    Treat yourself one in a while. Will stop you falling off the wagon.

    Good luck mate!
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  • Thanks, some very useful tips there.
  • BruunLoss wrote:
    Quick update, only lost 1.4lbs this week, slightly disappointed due to longer cycles, but still, onwards and downwards as the case may be! (A case of Heineken!)

    Keep your chin up mate.

    I hardly lost any weight with being away and not training but my body fat is dropping nicely.

    Some weeks it falls off and other weeks it doesn't.
    Cheers

    Andy
    Cyclist, Massage Therapist & Ice Cream Genius
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  • Thanks Andy, I was disappointed at the time, but now I am like, meh, whatever! As long as I am exercising regardless, I am reducing my risk of heart disease! And thats always good!
  • Well it's the 3rd week, I feel guilty having a small fry up this morning, but having cycled 13 miles up and down the cliffs of Howth in slippery conditions with a 300ft fall if I go off the path more then 3 feet, it was hard work and I needed the food and coffee after all that before cycling home. Again, thank you everyone who has sent me messages of encouragement and following my on Twitter.

    This morning I made a video diary with a difference, but it was shot in low light around 7.45-8.am so its not high quality like I hoped, but still, hope you enjoy it.
    http://youtu.be/v-sXTn5n30U
  • Quick question regarding fluid replacement. I don't drink milk at all, only the odd time I'd have a drop in coffee. My mother says I stopped drinking milk at age 4/5. Now I am however, but rarely, can drink those 'Yazoo' strawberry milk or banana flavoured milk drinks. Would these be considered a healthy option for a recovery drink when home from a cycle? Silly question I know, but thought of it last night.
  • Well this week I set 2 goals and achieved them. On Monday I set a goal to cycle to St. Margaret's and back, this is out past Dublin Airport and the furthest distance yet away from my home. The final stretch runs parallel to runway 2-8 and I was cycling against the wind. It's a hard stretch as it was dark and seeing vehicle lights disappear on the road ahead reminded you how long the road was. It got to a stage where I was shouting to myself, 'Come on René, you can do this sh*t!' and eventually I did. 21.41 miles.

    That encouraged me to aim for 30 miles to finish off my 3rd week. Yesterday I planned a longer route and cycled it but by the time I got home it was only 26.5 miles. Did I give up, he'll no! Used the bathroom and back out along the coast, I was determined. Finished the cycle at approx, 35.5 miles!

    Cycling is bringing out the best in me and pushing my limits beyond what I thought I was capable of!
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Best thing to have as recovery after the rides you are doing is a banana and possibly a glass of milk or protein. The yazoo drinks are full of crap. Remember, it's not calories but the quality of those calories that counts.
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  • GarryM
    GarryM Posts: 77
    Eating & drinking sensibly is probably all you need to do rather than worry about recovery drinks. That is unless you feel very lethargic after your rides. Generally, if you have 24hrs between rides your body/glycogen stores will have recuperated fully anyway. Consuming recovery drinks/milk will just slow down your weight loss.
  • andyrr
    andyrr Posts: 1,823
    I love chocolate milk and used to sometimes have one after club turbo training - I'd do this because it would be an hour or so after finishing the session before I would get home for tea, similar also for post-race food where I'd want to get something down my neck pretty soon after a very hard workout. For other times when either the effort was not as major or I was closer to home so could have some decent grub I'd forgo that.
    For your situation it depends, are you able to get some decent carbs/protein after your ride (and feel able to consume that kind of meal ?), how soon again are you going to ride ? What else are you going to eat, are you having a Yazoo plus tons of other food ?
    Might be an idea to have something healthy and tasty ready at home for your post-ride nosh which you look forward to - helps to motivate you to do the ride that you planned. A milk shake is not the worst thing you can consume - maybe not the best but contains carbs and protein and pretty low in fat.
  • Generally this is my daily diet, drink intake.

    Morning, 500ml of water or lucozade sport.
    On cycle, 750ml water
    Finish cycle, one can lucozade original.
    Breakfast, 2 slices of brown toast with low fat spread and either a slice of cheese or Philadelphia light.

    Lunch, either a salad and chicken wrap with a dollop of mayo, or oven baked chicken breast
    Afternoon, either a banana or a kiwi

    Dinner, small plate of chicken or beef with 2 potatoes or pasta.
    1 pint of water.

    The odd time if I feel like cheating, I'll have a burger of packet of low fat crisps.

    But now for next week i've ordered some weight watchers soups, some chicken fillets and lamb burgers.
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    You are eating nowhere near enough,that would barely scrape 1200cals which is DANGEROUSLY low. Why all the empty calories and sugars from lucozades?
    At 6ft 4 and 297.4 I am clinically obese which really kicked my ars* into gear! [pun intended!]

    Resting(if you stayed in bed all day) BMR is 2616 approx
    x
    (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    3597cals before deficit 2800 ish after,which leaves you plenty of room to burn cals on the bike

    or
    moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    4054 before deficit - 3200ish-3400ish
  • I thought by eating the normal amount I eat, plus adding fruit and lean chicken/protein etc was adding more calories. If I eat more for cycling, will that not add weight as my main goal is to lose it?

    This is a good thing you responded,mi don't know any of this stuff. I take the lucozade for sugar and energy replacement after my cycle.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    The best you can do... quick as you can.... Lucozade.....for God's sake, get a grip ;-)

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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    BruunLoss wrote:
    I thought by eating the normal amount I eat, plus adding fruit and lean chicken/protein etc was adding more calories. If I eat more for cycling, will that not add weight as my main goal is to lose it?

    This is a good thing you responded,mi don't know any of this stuff. I take the lucozade for sugar and energy replacement after my cycle.
    Yes and no. Fruit will be adding natural sugars,which aren't at all bad,same as the calories from lean meats. But for your current weight it's nowhere near enough.If your bmr x activity would be approx 3400 you would be undereating currently by 2000-2200 per day which itself would equate to 4lbs a week. This is before you add in the calories from cycling which would be another 2000-4000+ approx burned. This puts you in a massive unsustainable deficit and would likely explain your loss on the first week and the lack thereof on the second.

    Your weekly intake is around 24000 - you're eating not much more than 9000 which is 4lb worth of deficit before exercise.

    Think ATM: You need to put money in,to be able to take it out.

    Energy:unless you ride fasted carbs before would do no harm,you've been "fasted" all night unless you had something before bed so theres nothing wrong with stocking up again. This is the time to drink plenty of water too.

    post ride: what works for one doesn't work for all but if you need help with upping calories. (I may get shot down for this) Frijj/Yazoo type milkshakes have a decent mix of carbs/protein which is handy post ride and much cheaper than For Goodness Shakes/Torq and similar products. Chocolate milk is popular for recovery

    Your lucozades atm are just sugar/caffeine and pretty much empty calories. They have no real worth. Very ripe (spotty) bananas - bagels +peanut butter/chocolate spread - pasta - rice - eggs all capable of better nutrition yet only a small example. Smoothies would also work just fine and are easy to make.

    Post exercise your muscles are crying for nutrients so a smallish snack after and before your next meal (which I would make sure has protein in) fills the gap. Cottage cheese is full of casein protein which is very slow releasing,so can help with overnight recovery.

    ps:banana omelettes are divine :)
  • Banana Omlettes eh? Mmmmm.... Sounds interesting. I don't eat too much food as I know there is no point as I do very little exercise other then cycle. I kinda don't understand that eating more of certain foods will help me lose weight. Yes I do cycle on average 15-20 miles a day and once a week 30 approx but that's it.

    Maybe people can advise what they eat, but again, if the eating part is just for energy rather then burning fat, I won't need as much. I don't race, I go at a steady pace and burn slowly. This week I am happy with my loss, I am well on target for meeting my monthly goal. Video post later.
  • Hey guys, I've updated my website complete, a whole new look. It is now half photography, half cycling. I also went with a sub name of The Giant Cycling Photographer as both my bike and myself are Giant! LOL

    Anyhow, the blog page now incorporates, daily mile, twitter feed and local weather. And I have set up a new page for biking blogs, so if you have any and you want to add a link, email me at:

    bruunloss@gmail.com

    Advise web address, site title and brief description.

    Website is www.renebruun.com

    Thanks.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Have a word with Barry Murray at www.optimumnutrition4sport.co.uk
    The man's a weight management genius. One of his customers was in a similar boat to you and has achieved her target weight and is reaping the benefits.
    She wasn't a 'sportsperson' btw, he does specialise in elite athletes but his principles apply to all. I'd suggest actually getting a plan from him. He's now based in your neck of the woods too if I remember correctly.
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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    BruunLoss wrote:
    Banana Omlettes eh? Mmmmm.... Sounds interesting. I don't eat too much food as I know there is no point as I do very little exercise other then cycle. I kinda don't understand that eating more of certain foods will help me lose weight. Yes I do cycle on average 15-20 miles a day and once a week 30 approx but that's it.

    Maybe people can advise what they eat, but again, if the eating part is just for energy rather then burning fat, I won't need as much. I don't race, I go at a steady pace and burn slowly. This week I am happy with my loss, I am well on target for meeting my monthly goal. Video post later.
    You've got it all wrong. Eating is for everything you do from sleeping to watching tv to cycling. Every single thing you do in your day,relies on food,relies on energy. I don't think I can explain it better than I already have.

    Your body won't be happy to get rid of the fat it's holding until it's getting plenty of calories through foods,you are not doing this eating 1200ish a day then pouring sugar into yourself. My first breakfast can total 800+cals,thats before breakfast 2, lunch,pwo and dinner.

    I'm trying to help you as a health/fitness/sport enthusiast but everything is an excuse at this point.You may be losing weight now and I see your goal is 16lb a month,but it won't be sustainable nor healthy. I wish you the best of luck and health as I feel it's time to stop posting unless you ask.
  • nweststeyn
    nweststeyn Posts: 1,574
    René - I know how you must feel... when you start really looking into it, it all seems fairly counter intuative and contrary to what people generally do to do lose weight. Here is an analogy which I always try to keep in mind when it comes to food intake.

    As someone said above, you need to put in before you take out. Imagine having, say, £200 spending money per week. Now a change in circumstances means that as of next month, you will only have £20 per week. Your mind will tell yourself, wow - I'm gonna have a serious deficit here. I need to stop spending so much and put a little aside.

    Although this isn't completely scientifically accurate, we can imagine the body acts in the same way. When you start to exercise, your body goes into a state of shock. If the calorie deficit is too great, your metabolism will not speed up, but actually do the reverse, and the body puts itself into 'famine' mode and will attempt to hold onto as much fat as possible. If you keep the calorie deficit sustainable, then your body will be much happier using up its fat reserves, as it knows it isn't going to have it's energy supply cut off. Does that make sense?

    A doctor would probably cringe at the way I explained that, but it gives a general idea. The body and mind are complicated things, and the 'weightloss enthusiast' way of starving oneself often results in people losing weight, and then when they start to eat a bit better, they balloon to a massive size again because the body wants to stock up on everything.

    Slowly and sustainably is the way to go!
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    nweststeyn wrote:
    René - I know how you must feel... when you start really looking into it, it all seems fairly counter intuative and contrary to what people generally do to do lose weight. Here is an analogy which I always try to keep in mind when it comes to food intake.

    As someone said above, you need to put in before you take out. Imagine having, say, £200 spending money per week. Now a change in circumstances means that as of next month, you will only have £20 per week. Your mind will tell yourself, wow - I'm gonna have a serious deficit here. I need to stop spending so much and put a little aside.

    Although this isn't completely scientifically accurate, we can imagine the body acts in the same way. When you start to exercise, your body goes into a state of shock. If the calorie deficit is too great, your metabolism will not speed up, but actually do the reverse, and the body puts itself into 'famine' mode and will attempt to hold onto as much fat as possible. If you keep the calorie deficit sustainable, then your body will be much happier using up its fat reserves, as it knows it isn't going to have it's energy supply cut off. Does that make sense?

    A doctor would probably cringe at the way I explained that, but it gives a general idea. The body and mind are complicated things, and the 'weightloss enthusiast' way of starving oneself often results in people losing weight, and then when they start to eat a bit better, they balloon to a massive size again because the body wants to stock up on everything.

    Slowly and sustainably is the way to go!
    This is what I was trying to say
  • Ouija
    Ouija Posts: 1,386
    Fundamentally, there are really only two ways of losing weight. Either by starving yourself or by exercise (or a 'half and half' mix of both). If your doing a lot of exercise you can pretty much forget about starving yourself. Just the opposite. I've gone from a fat bastard to a skinny guy in just three years, cycling on average 40miles a day (started out at just 50 miles a week). Do i starve myself and eat a well balanced diet?....... Hell no. I'm shoveling more crap into me now than i ever have in my life. Pisses off my work colleagues something chronic when their all sat around the canteen tables nibbling on low fat, low cholesterol rabbit food and worrying about every calorie in what they eat and i'm munching on jam and cream filled scones or eclairs.

    You can really get into the science of eating different types of food and how they give you the correct types of protein, carbohydrates and energy etc, if you really want to. But, ultimately, if you do enough exercise you can pretty much eat any damn thing you want and still lose weight. 25miles a day at a leisurely pace is a decent amount of exercise. You really don't need to be starving yourself on top of that........
  • Herbsman
    Herbsman Posts: 2,029
    Hey Bruun,

    I like your enthusiasm towards losing weight and getting fit... is there any chance you could put all the updates on one thread rather than starting new one? It just makes it easier to keep track of updates if it's all in one place.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Herbsman wrote:
    Hey Bruun,

    I like your enthusiasm towards losing weight and getting fit... is there any chance you could put all the updates on one thread rather than starting new one? It just makes it easier to keep track of updates if it's all in one place.

    Done. And topic heading changed
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  • Ok, it's finally making sense, as I said I am completely new to cycling as more then just a commute. I will start 1 new thread next week and only post in that thread. I guess if I eat more, but the right foods, then that will help shift more of the 'wrong foods' basically equating to losing weight and keeping my energy levels up. I changed my goal to 10lbs a month for 7 months. After that, if achieved, everything else is a bonus.

    Thanks for the patience.
  • Ah easier, I see everything is already in this ne thread, fine, will keep this going.