Vuelta Stage 15 **Spoiler**
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iainf72 wrote:Rocksteadyeddie wrote:Cobo reminds me of the bad old days. And ex Saunier Duval. Hmmmmm.
You could also say a nobody like Froome dropping people like Nibali is like the bad old days.
But I sort of agree. And I don't trust anyone with Buffalo in their nickname
At least this one is not the same size of a buffalo... unlike the last one.0 -
Wow, when you look at the overall result it really does hit home what an amazing climber Wiggins has become and that Froome has shown to be.0
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Froome should be given a free hand on the next mountain stage now.0
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So what will Sky's tatics be now then? Will they maintain Wiggo as lead and use Froome to help him try and gain some time? Or should they allow Froome to ride for himself?Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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Sky have got play the double act now and constantly attack Cobo.
Where did Cobo come from? Looking at his palmares some decent results in some halfway tours and 10th in the Vuleta in 2009.0 -
Froome Dropping Climbers like Nibali ??? Done nothing on a bike and is climbing like Indurain !!!!. Sorry to be cynical0
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The only chance they have is to let both riders do what they like and attack one at a time, obviously not together, they have to attack Cobo's team to have any chance and to do that have to do it as a 1 2.0
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Sporza commentators are pretty uncomfortable with Cobo's resurrection... apparently Cobo's a trained chef, leading to jokes about ingredients and such...
Have to agree he comes back from a ban a bit too good...0 -
oldwelshman wrote:The only chance they have is to let both riders do what they like and attack one at a time, obviously not together, they have to attack Cobo's team to have any chance and to do that have to do it as a 1 2.
You mean like the Schlecks
Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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Cobo looked quite fresh at the end- perhaps too fresh?
it did look like wiggins needed a bigger sprocket though.'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
It seems like a disappointment now but when you think of how far Wiggins has come in the last few years, to be finishing top 5 on a climb like the Angliru, it really is a remarkable achievement. Even more remarkable when you think that he is much less suited to the steep punchy climbs used in the Vuelta. It looks very likely that we're going to have two British cyclists on the podium of a grand tour and in the end who could complain about that?0
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I dont think the Shreks invented the concept of two team mates attacking as a one two.0
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Gazzaputt wrote:Where did Cobo come from? Looking at his palmares some decent results in some halfway tours and 10th in the Vuleta in 2009.
Had his breakthrough in Pais Vasco 2007. QS doc Yvan Vanmol had this to say about it:
"Cobo? Is dit onverklaarbaar? Zijn vooruitgang is toch spectaculair te noemen. Twee jaar geleden reed ik achter hem in de Ronde van Duitsland toen hij op pad was met Bram Tankink. Onze Nederlander reed hem er zo af, terwijl Saunier Duval in het Baskenland nu alle ploegen naar huis fietste. In het hedendaagse wielrennen is het maar normaal dat er daar vragen bij gesteld worden.'"
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I agree about how suspicious Cobo's form is but is it any more suspicious than Froome's?0
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oldwelshman wrote:I dont think the Shreks invented the concept of two team mates attacking as a one two.
I know I was being tongue in cheek.
'For me it's a shame Wiggo doesn't have an attack on him. If he could just find a that essential ingredient then a number one on the podium would really be a reality.Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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Yes how very apt eh the TV cameraman following Wiggo crashes ? Robert Millar not the only one "stitched up" in a spanish race eh
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but froome is on a british team... BRITS dont cheat like those shady continentals!'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0
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i may be wrong but i thought i spotted blood on wiggo's knee as he crossed the line (though i was watching on a tiny screen). anyone clarify this?-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0
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Great ride from Wiggins and Froome. Top 5 up that monster is seriously impressive.0
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Will Sky try and cause a split in the peloton at some point? Or somehow get Froome/Wiggins into a break and then spend the rest of the stage causing as much disruption to a Geox chase? Those 6 second bonuses at intermediates look tempting when you're only 20 seconds behind. It's certainly something to think of.
Geox played it well getting Menchov third and so taking away a time bonus from Froome.0 -
It has to be said too that Wiggins performing as he is after the injury and following operation he has had is amazing.0
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Let's hope there's a drugs bust tomorrow during the rest day. Oh wait a sec, this is Spain, so will never happen.0
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David Milllar's comments about drug use at Saunier Duval seem poignant right now.0
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Crap, no you're right. He wanted to quit cycling, thought that was after a ban last year, but no. Well, he was part of Saunier Duval...afx237vi wrote:FJS wrote:Sporza commentators are pretty uncomfortable with Cobo's resurrection... apparently Cobo's a trained chef, leading to jokes about ingredients and such...
Have to agree he comes back from a ban a bit too good...
He's never been banned, has he?0 -
Brad stayed in the saddle on the steep stuff. I wonder how much that collar bone was still hurting. I've broken bones and 7/8 weeks isn't all that long convalescence time. (I'm amazed VdB is going as strong as he is so soon after a punctured lung)
Nah, Cobo hasn't been banned. The whole of SD abandoned/were thrown out of the race in TdF 2008 when Ricco/Piepoli got caught for CERA. I've watched the Hautacam stage several times: Piepoli looked easy, Cobo struggled a lot to stay with him0 -
Straws,Clutching at !!! - Froome will be looked at with raised eyebrows as well. Or else the meat served in Kenya these days is the same stuff the Lions get
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FFS - Wiggins gets dropped, and this forum goes nuts. Cobo's a drug cheat. The motorcycle held Wiggins up. Poor Brad is the moral victor - he's coming back from injury you know. Blah, blah, blah.
No wonder the phrase whinging pom was coined to describe the English.0
