Motorised cycle discussion!

tom_howard

Do you have a video of yourself riding this death tr.... power assist bike? with all its trailers?

Fabian2

Kaiser you are a repugnant person for your inference.
I feel you should be at very least reprimanded for your personal inference, though i would prefer to see an action where you are banned completely for your insinuation.

Really Kaiser i feel strongly about this - i feel strongly about your utterly repugnant remarks.

Fortunately i'm not a moderator, for your sake!

tom_howard

Fabian2 wrote:

Kaiser you are a repugnant person for your inference.
I feel you should be at very least reprimanded for your personal inference, though i would prefer to see an action where you are banned completely for your insinuation.

Really Kaiser i feel strongly about this - i feel strongly about your utterly repugnant remarks.

Fortunately i'm not a moderator, for your sake!

Welcome to the Crudcatcher....

projectsome

*skims through thread*

If you have said knowledge of indexing gears, why are you here asking? 6 trailers on a bike? learn to drive a car... Entertaining children? you're either a primary school teacher, clown, or kiddie fiddler? good trolling sir.

nicklouse

Fabian2 wrote:

Hydraulic brakes are good, but they are not the best option for redundancy, as running two hydraulic calipers from one master cylinder requires the master cylinder to move twice the fluid, causing a woefully spongey brake lever. Also if crashing the bike and ripping out a hydraulic line, it can't be easily replaced at the scene, like a simple cable system.
A cable system requires no bleeding or bleeding devices to be carried as part of the spares kit - just a cable outer, cable inner and mechanical brake lever - job done and almost entire braking system replaced in under 10 mins.

who said about running two off one master cylinder?

ever thought how hard it is to balance a wire brake system? I wonder why cars binned it such a long time ago.

also if you are needing to replace the hoses after a crash i thing you would also have more issues. and a hydro system can be very easily built with redundancy built in.

getonyourbike

yeh, FFS this is the CC, we can do almost what the fark we like! If your not careful, Fabian, Josh might stick you in a nice ditch with your head on backwards :twisted:

Kaise

go on say Repugnant or Inference one more time, gooooooo on you know you want to!

Fabian2

because commonly available master cylinders for bicycle are designed to displaced fluid proportion to a single brake caliper.

I understand Gatorbrake manufacturers a master cylinder designed for recumbents, allowing two caliper operation.
In this situation a hydraulic system would work but it still encounters the problem of fluid loss affecting line pressure to both calipers should there be a rupture in the system.

Dual pull cable brake systems feature a rocker mechanism with limited movement that allows even force distribution between cables - the reason why i like the system so much.

I've had the use of a hydro system and they are stunningly good, just they don't tick the boxes for my preferred method of operation.
In saying any system can be engineered to do the job. It just comes down to expense.
A mechanical system for my application is the lowest cost method of operation with redundancy, and eliminates line pressure loss affecting both calipers.

Never did i say that a hydro system wasn't effective as a braking method.

Kaise

god forbid this guy gives people advice in the other sections of this forum as they might belive him and cause damage to themselves!

Fabian2

I give respect to everyone to behaves in a civilised manner, engaging in civilised discourse.

Kaiser has made inferences that do not conform with such discussion.
Interaction with Kaiser from this point forward on my end are terminated.

tom_howard

Fabian2 wrote:

I give respect to everyone to behaves in a civilised manner, engaging in civilised discourse.

Kaiser has made inferences that do not conform with such discussion.
Interaction with Kaiser from this point forward on my end are terminated.

Well, he said it! Anyway, wheres my video?

Kaise

GGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

thats a massive WIN for me!

repugnant inference this you fecktard cheesewand!

getonyourbike

epic win by kaiser83!

tom_howard

getonyourbike wrote:

epic win by kaiser83!

+ potato to the power of WIN

welshkev

kaiser83 wrote:

Fabian2 wrote:

For this reason i limit my max speed on flat ground to between 15 and 20 kilometers per hour.

You'll never get to that speed this is something you admitted before

Fabian2 wrote:

a bit of fun and mostly aimed at the giving children something novel that fits into their fantasy........

Fabian2 wrote:

It's lovely to see young children...... riding the extended setup, as it's a most novel experience.

I think we have found something here, you mess with children!

SICK get out of this forum at once you evil evil man!

i was thinking the same..he he

Northwind

This is a bit not right.

Anyway, on the subject of redundancy, somehow every other motorbike in the world gets on just fine without it (other than, as observed, the rear brake). The only reason to worry about it is if you've introduced some massive likelihood of failure. For example, using bicycle brakes on a ptw towing trailers

If you really want redundancy, brake your trailers.

Ransaka

Fabian2 wrote:

Lots and lots of waffle and crap

Also can't believe I've just spent time actually reading all 15 farking pages. Hats off to you Mr Fabian Troll.

RevellRider

I'm just wondering how long it'll be before his forks snap from running such a big brake?

bicyclepirate

kaiser83 I just want to thank you for your contribution to this thread. The op is clearly misguided and possibly a bit of a plonker. Just for his information if your front brake fails and you then use your back brake it provides 100% of the breaking force.

And another point I would like to add is that the actual limit of most brake systems is your ability to stay on the bike. I know Fabian2 won't believe me but I've thought of a good test why doesn't he ride down a hill and into a brick wall, he'll stop in a very short distance and time.

paul.skibum

Secondary emergency brake - stick your foot in the front wheel.

But seriously - a disc brake in excess of 200mm cant possibly be warrantied for the fork especially with double calipers applying force. Get a motorbike ffs! Much as I dislike Harley's, they are on a similar engineering level to your "bicycle" have a similar power output and have been known to tow trailers. Win and you wont look any more stupid on a Harley than you currently do.

I am going to stop reading this thread its just annoying me.

sheepsteeth

this is a most excellent thread, i love that it is as webbo as the bike it started off about.

so, whats this i hear about fabein and some kids?

RevellRider

He likes to transport kids to his grotto in his 8 trailers

sheepsteeth

RevellRider wrote:

He likes to transport kids to his grotto in his 8 trailers

he's a peado?!?

RevellRider

I'm not saying he is....

Kaiser83 might of though

angry_bird

RevellRider wrote:

He likes to transport kids to his grotto in his 8 trailers

I doubt he'd fit 8 kids in though, most of his trailers are full of the spares he needs to keep his pretend bike running

montevideoguy

RevellRider wrote:

He likes to crash kids to his grotto in his 8 trailers with no proper brakes

Fixed

Kaise

RevellRider wrote:

I'm not saying he is....

Kaiser83 might of though

I said nothing of the sort..........i merely quoted what he said!

tom_howard

I think youll find that you inferred that he touches kids, which Fabian thought was repugnant, which we thought was hilarious.

Kaise

my inference was deemed as repugnant, his opinion on bikes is mislead and idiotic, i think we are even!

plus nobody mentioned minors until he did,,,,

montevideoguy

There is nothing wrong with calling people child molestors... I call people that all the time