TDF Stage 9 ***SPOILER***

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  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    You would have to hold me back after i finished today's stage i would kick the guys F***ing Teeth in if i got hold of the driver. Cycling is Cruel Poor Hoogerland being dropped now.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Apparently Karpets was driving it.

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    SecretSqirrel wrote:
    Hoogerland is bleeding heavily, he and Flecha must be in a complete state of shock.

    I'm feeling stressed just watching.

    It would explain why they were up so quickly: Adrenaline. It'll hurt more later on.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • stokepa31
    stokepa31 Posts: 560
    Thomas Voeckler needs 1:29 to go yellow. Peloton not having much impact. gap at 4:31
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Hoogie looks like something out of a horror film.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    am I too cynical to suggest he won't be sacked as without French telly there isn't a race?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    am I too cynical to suggest he won't be sacked as without French telly there isn't a race?

    What does that car even do?
  • fungus_the_muffin_man
    fungus_the_muffin_man Posts: 1,608
    I suppose it depends who was driving it.
    Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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  • AlunP
    AlunP Posts: 106
    The two crash victims would be in a position to sue French tv for negligence under English law. Any French law experts around? The fact that's is a closed roads race is not relevant as muppet driver has clearly breached his duty of care.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    I was just thinking that.. if its a chief exec or somesuch, they'll probably fine Flecha
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    afx237vi wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    am I too cynical to suggest he won't be sacked as without French telly there isn't a race?

    What does that car even do?

    They have about 10 of them in the race... carrying journos and some VIPs... Some have live commentators (radio and TV - in addition to 2 or 3 on motorbikes)...
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    stokepa31 wrote:
    Thomas Voeckler needs 1:29 to go yellow. Peloton not having much impact. gap at 4:31

    I think Voeckler will need at least 2 minutes going into the last couple of kms because it's an uphill finish. I can see Thor losing yellow but maybe it will be one of the other contenders wearing it tomorrow.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Video

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/cycling/livematch/429381.html

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    AlunP wrote:
    The two crash victims would be in a position to sue French tv for negligence under English law. Any French law experts around? The fact that's is a closed roads race is not relevant as muppet driver has clearly breached his duty of care.

    French code provisions on tort are more or less the same as under English law/common law... But the riders/teams sign waivers.... volenti non fit injuria
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  • rebs
    rebs Posts: 891
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    am I too cynical to suggest he won't be sacked as without French telly there isn't a race?

    Unless the car driver is Rebekah Brooks. I seriously doubt they will avoid punishment.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    afx237vi wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    am I too cynical to suggest he won't be sacked as without French telly there isn't a race?

    What does that car even do?

    Interviews at the finish apparently. Hence the stupid stunt.
    Gilbert bike change!
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • stokepa31
    stokepa31 Posts: 560
    Gilbert with a mechanical. bad timing
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  • fungus_the_muffin_man
    fungus_the_muffin_man Posts: 1,608
    Well we've had a bike take out a rider.
    We've had a car take out a rider.
    So what next? One of the helicopters?
    Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    I don't know about French Law - but certainly under English law, if the driver has been negligent it doesn't matter how many waiver the cyclist has signed - you can't exclude your liabilty
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Gilbert's going to find himself marooned amongst the also-rans if he doesn't catch the front end of the peloton pretty sharpish.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    LLS has been doing very little work in the breakaway.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Gap's back up to 4:15.... looking promising.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • AlunP
    AlunP Posts: 106
    Volenti doesn't cover that sort of thing. If I am playing footie I don't consent to somebody recklessly going over the top and breaking my leg. Brad has no claim (volenti applies here I reckon)
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    mroli wrote:
    I don't know about French Law - but certainly under English law, if the driver has been negligent it doesn't matter how many waiver the cyclist has signed - you can't exclude your liabilty

    Under English law you can under the doctrine volenti not fit injuria. Signed waiver as evidence of assumption of risk. ASO will have terms that the race is dangerous blah blah... following cars etc... You cant exclude liability for death or personal injury as a term in a commercial contract,
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  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    afx237vi wrote:
    No-one has been talking at all about Kloden... what are his chances?

    Check my GC pick afx....!
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Garmin given up the chase.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Great shot of the helicopter shadow keeping pace with the riders, just above them.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    edited July 2011
    AlunP wrote:
    Volenti doesn't cover that sort of thing. If I am playing footie I don't consent to somebody recklessly going over the top and breaking my leg. Brad has no claim (volenti applies here I reckon)

    Volenti would protect the organiser, but you can still go after the perpetrator. In this case ASO is protected, so you would have to go after the driver and/or France 2,3,4 ...

    EDIT: Condon v Basi [1985] 1 WLR 866 :-)
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    Great shot of the helicopter shadow keeping pace with the riders, just above them.


    It'll bloody crash on them now
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  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    Great for Voekler this
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