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  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    Monkeypump wrote:
    PBo wrote:
    Monkeypump wrote:
    Jeez, you’re hard work... but hey, that’s why any thread with a DDD appearance runs to so many pages.

    Please re-read my post. I’m just fairly confident that there have been exceptions to the law you quote (from Wikipedia, I note). I think part of the challenge was getting the court to accept that an exception to the current definition is even possible.

    What I am certain of is that there are guys out there who would say they have been raped by women – try having this conversation with one of them and your outlook might change.

    I’d also say a fairly high percentage of your arguments on here rely on anecdotal information, so let’s not get holier-than-thou...

    But isn't the point that rape has a specific legal definition which is tighter than "being forced to have sex" by a woman. The man may have been violated, no doubt, and may feel all the bad things that raped women feel, but as a matter of law surely he was sexually assaulted, not raped?

    ETA I'm pretty sure that CPS wouldn't prosecute a case as such, and risk that the judge just said - no penile penetration, no rape. They'd go with sexual assault. When I was on jury duty, a case was prosecuted as blackmail, even though there were no letters made from cut out newspaper words, or photographs. It just happened that the strict legal definition of blackmail is what fit the case best.

    Okay, it seems I'm wrong and perhaps the case buried in my mind was from the US. I did start to Google this, but work got in the way (!!) – sorry.

    Hypothetically, what if penile penetration DID occur, but it was forced by the woman? Intercourse is not questioned, just who is the “instigator”. That’s a very different concept to the “perpetrator”, as in penile penetrative intercourse it’s always going to be male doing the penetrating.

    In such a case, would a male victim feel legally “short-changed” because they couldn’t pursue a rape charge? I would.

    And yes, dhope is right – this is the least exciting lesbian thread ever. I’m off to check out Girls In Lycra Shorts for a pick-me-up...

    Where is your sense of priority man! work got in the way indeed....

    in regards to your question, I totally understand what you mean about the male victim feeling hard done by. And he will be, because once gain - strictly by the definition - it isn't rape, because in the bit of law that DDD quoted
    The offence is created by section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003:
    “ 1-(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

    (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,
    (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and
    (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

    the penis owner has to be different from the non consenter...
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Oh EKE. I'm disappointed in you. Very disappointed......... :(
    Faster than a tent.......
  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Me wrote:
    Would a practicing lesbian who has never had sex with a man be legally classed as a virgin?
    Seems like the answer is 'yes', but there is no reason why the law would want to ask the question.
    Also, two women cannot (using the legal definition of the word) have sex (which is why they would be virgins).

    I wonder if Rolf and HeadHuunter have had a look at the picture I posted yet?
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Rolf F wrote:
    Oh EKE. I'm disappointed in you. Very disappointed......... :(
    Oh, that answers it.

    Ha ha. Big thanks to everyone for keeping their mouths shut!
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,776
    Finally this thread has cheered me up again. But did the picture float HH's boat? I rather doubt it.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    Oh EKE. I'm disappointed in you. Very disappointed......... :(
    Oh, that answers it.

    Ha ha. Big thanks to everyone for keeping their mouths shut!

    I bought a new box of tissues especially!

    (mind you, the name of the image did give me some suspicion........)
    Faster than a tent.......
  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Rolf, you saw "http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1003/lesbians-lesbian-ugly-demotivational-poster-1267460184.jpg" and were still excited?

    Don't worry, with the internet, hardcore lesbian porn is only a few clicks away. How did we survive before broadband?
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