The beginners guide to chinese carbon wheels

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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    bails1310 wrote:
    Wheels all buit and very pleased with them, visually.

    Probably wont get much use for a bit but no complaints from the bike shop who built them, can only admire them from the garage at the moment!

    Anyone thinking of the Hope Hubs then they look and sound great.

    Have stuck the on the Kharma and looks good, really suits it - I think anyway. Will post the full finished article when I can get chance to get some decent photos.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/92376672@N ... hotostream
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/92376672@N ... hotostream

    Can someone PLEASE help me with photos, Ive tried adding the & tags previously and it doesnt work.
    Should I add the URL bits either side? Im usually OK with tecky stuff but this is a bridge too far, sorry - FAIL!!! :roll:

    Nice, it proves the point that you don't need CX ray spokes to have deep carbon wheels... you can invest the money in decent hubs instead...
    Maybe they deserve a punchier set of tyres? Did anyone say Vittoria CX? :D
    left the forum March 2023
  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    Thanks Ugo, they were the only tyres I had to hand [commuting stock] to see how they looked for now.

    I was going to search the many threads for tyre recomendations, I take it these are you rubber of choice?
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    bails1310 wrote:
    Thanks Ugo, they were the only tyres I had to hand [commuting stock] to see how they looked for now.

    I was going to search the many threads for tyre recomendations, I take it these are you rubber of choice?

    ... Well, I use the tubular version, but yes, the clincher ones are ace too...

    Paolo
    left the forum March 2023
  • dbb
    dbb Posts: 323
    that's a very nice pair of wheels. look good with ss spokes
    regards,
    dbb
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    I recommend
    http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/produc ... cts_id/591
    left the forum March 2023
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I recommend
    http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/produc ... cts_id/591

    That website looks like it's from 1983, what gives? Good price on the corsas though
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I recommend
    http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/produc ... cts_id/591

    That website looks like it's from 1983, what gives? Good price on the corsas though

    I know John and Steve very well, IT is not their strength, good prices are... It is a great place to buy...
    left the forum March 2023
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Fair play, can't get any better than a recommendation

    Back to the old Chinese wheel subject. I recently picked up some 50mm spin my wheels wheels http://www.spincycleworks.com/servlet/StoreFront

    I'm guessing these are a Chinese 50mm rim built up in the UK. Any reason why these would be better/worse than expensive Mavics or cheaper planet x s?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    bails1310 wrote:
    Works as far as I can 'Copy shortcut' but not 'Copy' as is not highlighted/avalibale, so can only past the same links as I did above and not a .jpg which I think I need from your post/quote?

    Copy shortcut yes
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • willy b
    willy b Posts: 4,125
    Snapped another spoke nipple on my pair a few weeks ago. Annoyingly on the way to a race too! That's 3 snapped nipples now, all on the front.

    Dropped it off at the bike shop where they'll sort it out, like last time. Essentially it looks like teh spokes are too short and therefore pulls on the alloy spoke nipples too much, causing them to snap it you hit a big bump! (which I did) Replace them with SS ones and they are fine.

    Tempted to price up a re-build with different spokes and SS nipples...
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  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    This was my concern, happy enough with the rims but not the build on some and the components they used.

    I purchsed the HopePro hub and got my LBS to build these with stainless spokes and red breas nipples.

    Maybe I'm sufferening from 'Shallow Hall' syndrome, but Ive seen some full builds from the FE and much prefer the look of mine, and have more confidence in their ability when I get to ride them.

    Shoved them on the bike today and that hub sounds blooming great [if you like that sort of thing]
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    bails1310 wrote:
    This was my concern, happy enough with the rims but not the build on some and the components they used.

    I purchsed the HopePro hub and got my LBS to build these with stainless spokes and red breas nipples.

    Maybe I'm sufferening from 'Shallow Hall' syndrome, but Ive seen some full builds from the FE and much prefer the look of mine, and have more confidence in their ability when I get to ride them.

    Shoved them on the bike today and that hub sounds blooming great [if you like that sort of thing]

    Pics required (on the bike) please...and if you do as I said and copy shortcut it will work (I did it on the earlier post from you flickr so it has to).
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • fluff.
    fluff. Posts: 771
    bails1310 wrote:
    I purchsed the HopePro hub and got my LBS to build these with stainless spokes and red breas nipples.

    Red brass? Is there such a thing?
  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    These?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEWSONSPORTEC ... 27cedffde8

    Was very specific that I wanted red brass in the build, the LBS assured me they had these readily to hand.
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • fluff.
    fluff. Posts: 771
    I hadn't realised people sold painted brass ones, live and learn.
  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    smidsy wrote:
    bails1310 wrote:
    This was my concern, happy enough with the rims but not the build on some and the components they used.

    I purchsed the HopePro hub and got my LBS to build these with stainless spokes and red breas nipples.

    Maybe I'm sufferening from 'Shallow Hall' syndrome, but Ive seen some full builds from the FE and much prefer the look of mine, and have more confidence in their ability when I get to ride them.

    Shoved them on the bike today and that hub sounds blooming great [if you like that sort of thing]

    Pics required (on the bike) please...and if you do as I said and copy shortcut it will work (I did it on the earlier post from you flickr so it has to).

    Cracked it & managed to sort origina post. I'll get some on this week.

    Thanks for your help.
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • dbb
    dbb Posts: 323
    no need to go for cheap Chinese wheels when you can get a nice set of branded ones for a little more...
    does anyone have any experience with these?
    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=68422
    regards,
    dbb
  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    They look good, but are tubs & I know tubs from FE come in a lot cheaper than £600.

    I personally wanted clinchers with a good hub and got them for £400 plus build cost.
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • dbb
    dbb Posts: 323
    shimano version are £510! - for a pair of wheels that weigh 1300grams.

    i am thinking for race wheels - so i think tubs for this. plus i have been reading through the posts and ugo has convinced me. :)
    regards,
    dbb
  • fluff.
    fluff. Posts: 771
    The Planet X 50mm tubs are £400, or less depending on sales, they are 100g heavier though. Assuming that the rims are going to pretty similar open mould jobbies, that 100g will probably come off the hub, which may be a bad thing?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    And if the 100g difference is in the hub it will not greatly affect the feel as it is central mass.

    I would sooner have lighter rims on heavier hubs than the other way round.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • Froomes Edgar
    Froomes Edgar Posts: 359
    a17ju8.jpg

    Chinese 88mm clinchers, 16 spoke front on a Tune Mig 70, 20h rear on a powertap SL+ (G3 wasn't out when I built them - pity), CX-Rays OBV. Decals made by my mate who owns a printing firm. Marvellous.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Nice those, almost tempted to get some decals made up for mine. I'll pm Ezy Rider.
  • Froomes Edgar
    Froomes Edgar Posts: 359
    ShutUpLegs wrote:
    Nice those, almost tempted to get some decals made up for mine. I'll pm Ezy Rider.

    I've got one spare, I'll let you have it for a fiver
  • bails1310
    bails1310 Posts: 361
    smidsy wrote:
    bails1310 wrote:
    This was my concern, happy enough with the rims but not the build on some and the components they used.

    I purchsed the HopePro hub and got my LBS to build these with stainless spokes and red breas nipples.

    Maybe I'm sufferening from 'Shallow Hall' syndrome, but Ive seen some full builds from the FE and much prefer the look of mine, and have more confidence in their ability when I get to ride them.

    Shoved them on the bike today and that hub sounds blooming great [if you like that sort of thing]

    Pics required (on the bike) please...and if you do as I said and copy shortcut it will work (I did it on the earlier post from you flickr so it has to).

    Here - viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=12905904
    Kuota Kharma Race [Dry/Sunny]
    Raleigh Airlite 100 [Wet/Horrible]
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I recommend
    http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/produc ... cts_id/591
    I thought these tyres were 320tpi, is this NOS?
  • smidsy
    smidsy Posts: 5,273
    I have just fitted Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX and the new ones are indeed 320tpi.

    £46 for the pair from Ribble.
    Yellow is the new Black.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Should be good for 2000 miles.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    nathancom wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I recommend
    http://www.sdeals.com/oscommerce/produc ... cts_id/591
    I thought these tyres were 320tpi, is this NOS?

    Ah, I had not noticed that... probably, possibly maybe... best to ask them
    left the forum March 2023
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    smidsy wrote:
    I have just fitted Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX and the new ones are indeed 320tpi.

    £46 for the pair from Ribble.

    Good price that - they're over £30 each now.
    More problems but still living....

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