Milan - San Remo Spoiler

ddraver

I'm not sure Goss would have won if they had gone hell for leather after the last corner but they all did the sit up and look at everyone else trick trying not to be in front...

I said to myself this is great for Goss and I was right (a rarity in itself!)

cal_stewart

come on why are we writing cav off. The race split because of a crash, and as most teams had blokes in the lead group they didn't chase. What would of happened if goss wasn't in the lead group?

At the end of the day theres no one who can come close to cav in paris.

TMR

ShinyHelmut wrote:

The Mad Rapper wrote:

I'm not going to write him off, but he's had a pretty awful start to the season hasn't he? He needs to pull his finger out or risk being marginalised.

Cav's targets this year are in July and September. Holding form for 6 months is pretty much impossible. Don't write off his season half way through March.

I'd go so far as to bet Cav won't win MSR next year either.

I was under the impression that M-SR was one of his targets? Isn't he riding PR this year as well?

iainf72

Cavendish says he couldn't have won

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendi ... 0&ns_fee=0

frenchfighter

Remember when Gilbert said after Paris Tours that Pozzato just want to make other riders lose, or words to that effect. Gilbert would likely have won if Pippo hadn't chased and dragged the others with him.

"My good friend [Filippo] Pozzato," said Gilbert, referring to a rider who he's faulted in the past for riding negatively.

"Of course," added Sergeant, "Pozzato is right to race his own race, but its no use if you can't win."

"I had to pull him back," said Pozzato. "I'd already risked it and lost it to Cancellara like that in 2008. I would have liked to save myself for the sprint."

frenchfighter

The last 90mins of the race from 57km out are here:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=P162JCP4

frenchfighter

If anyone has a full race shot of Hushovd please post up. The kit bike combo looks great.

frenchfighter

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pho ... nic-images

frenchfighter

Chainel, Poggio descent crash.

Bettini Photos

frenchfighter

Come on Scarponi. Lighting up many of this year's races. Flying up the hills.

gsk82

what happened to the worlds strongest man EBH going up the last climb?

Kléber

Scarponi was only nine seconds slower than Pantani's "record" up the Cipressa. Who is coaching him?

rockmount

Kléber wrote:

Scarponi was only nine seconds slower than Pantani's "record" up the Cipressa. Who is coaching him?

Perhaps he was afraid someone might call him a "lightweight" :roll:

rick_chasey

Excellent race. Funny how you need well placed crash to make it that way though. Bit like Roubaix...

Either way - massively surprised Goss made it over with the front guys. A very select elite bunch. And he's very young too - these young HTC guys are making Cipollini look like a right fool waiting till he was 30 odd to win it. It looked a particularly selective Poggio.

Scarponi's not normal though is he? Bloody exciting ride mind...

LangerDan

Rick Chasey wrote:

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Scarponi's not normal though is he? ...

Well, he certainly appears to have an additional kidney or small spare lung on his back.

Yellow Peril

It's far to early to write Cav off. Many of us were guilty of that last year and I thought his performances in the first couple of stages of last year's TdF supported that. However, how wrong we were...

My worry is though that where previously Cav was head and shoulders the number 1 sprinter in the team the emergence of Goss means he won't get the support he had last year.

Perhaps it will be good for him and make him a hungrier sprinter if he has to rely on following other wheels and not getting the armchair ride from his team.

rick_chasey

Yellow Peril wrote:

It's far to early to write Cav off. Many of us were guilty of that last year and I thought his performances in the first couple of stages of last year's TdF supported that. However, how wrong we were...

My worry is though that where previously Cav was head and shoulders the number 1 sprinter in the team the emergence of Goss means he won't get the support he had last year.

Perhaps it will be good for him and make him a hungrier sprinter if he has to rely on following other wheels and not getting the armchair ride from his team.

He's certainly not gone hungry over the winter....

Yellow Peril

Rick Chasey wrote:

Yellow Peril wrote:

It's far to early to write Cav off. Many of us were guilty of that last year and I thought his performances in the first couple of stages of last year's TdF supported that. However, how wrong we were...

My worry is though that where previously Cav was head and shoulders the number 1 sprinter in the team the emergence of Goss means he won't get the support he had last year.

Perhaps it will be good for him and make him a hungrier sprinter if he has to rely on following other wheels and not getting the armchair ride from his team.

He's certainly not gone hungry over the winter....

Agreed. As soon as he achieves pie equilibrium though he'll be fine.

Pross

cornoyemade wrote:

The Mad Rapper wrote:

The question is, where does this leave Cavendish? Because in a flat out sprint, there's not a huge amount between them; Goss is far more versatile as well, he's no one trick pony.

Cheers to Goss. Loved it. Looks like the emperor has no clothes without his teammates pulling his fat ars* to the line (also known as a "lead out")

Can't wait to see cav crying and pouting and otherwise behaving badly in order to get HTC management to put the brakes on Goss and Renshaw.

Tour down under

Stage 1
1. Goss
2. Greipel
62. Cav

Stage 3
2. Greipel
3. Goss
130. Cav

Stage 4
5. Goss
15 Greipel
98 Cav

Stage 5
3. Goss
27. Greipel
129. CAv

Stage 6
3. Goss
7. Greipel
120. Cav

Tour of Qatar
Stage 1
3. Renshaw
81 Cav

stage 2
1. Heinrich Haussler
12. Cav
14 Renshaw (Renshaw ight have one if he was not babysitting Cav to the line)

stage 3
1. Heinrich Haussler
2. Renshaw
25 Cav (1.33 behind)

Stage 4
1. Renshaw
4. Haussler
59 Cav (4:44 back)

Tour of Oman
stage 1
1. Bos
2. Cav
26 Goss s.t. (told to stand down and get Cav to the front otherwise a tantrumwould ensue)

stage 2
1. Goss
11. Haussler
82. Cav (10:32 back)

stage 3
1. Bos
3. Goss
5. Haussler
9. Cav (fell off Goss's wheel)

stage 6
1. Cav (threatend to cry and take his bike home unless his lead-out men slowed down)
23. Goss

Paris Nice
Stage 1
3. Haussler
13. Goss (not tired)
DNS Cav (tired)

Stage 2.
2. Goss
4. Haussler
DNS Cav

Stage 3.
1. Goss
2. Haussler
DNS Cav

Tireno-Adriatico
Stage 2
1. Farrar
4. Renshaw “the Manxman lost his teammate’s wheel in the finale and Renshaw was left to improvise with a late effort of his own to finish fourth.”
19. Cav (fell off wheel again)

stage 3.
2. Farrar
5. Renshaw
90. Cav (simply gave up)

Milan San Remo
1. Goss (allowed to ride his own race)
52 Cav (simply outclassed)

Could this be the most stupid post ever in the Pro Race section? It takes some doing to win that accolade! You'd have thought after last season people may have learned. Looks like good tactics from HTC as they now have riders capable of winning early season races whilst Cav concentrates on winning stages of the GTs (and possibly the points jerseys). 12 months ago people were also saying how Greipel needed to move from HTC as he could compete with Cav (including Greipel himself) and yet he hasn't exactly set the world alight so far.

Pross

By the way, I guess Cornoyemade is an Aussie?

rick_chasey

Haha, just listening to Wuyts post race

He's still angry that Pozzato not only put in the effort to chase (down) Gilbert, and then didn't work with him in the final couple KMs.

deejay

Why worry about Cav, he rides for a USA team and we know what that public only have interest in.
The Texan has taught us that much by making millions out of them suckers. (well him, Beckham and other lower ranks)

Last year it was his teeth that made him have a bad start to his season but he (they) finally got him his wins for the USA public to be interested.
Start counting him out after the California jaunt this year but not yet.

I have an idea that 4 GT stage wins won't be enough for him (them) this year and a possible Worlds chance for the Manxman. (then you will be told he is not English, etc)

TMR

deejay wrote:

Start counting him out after the California jaunt this year but not yet.

When is the ToC?

TMR

deejay wrote:

Start counting him out after the California jaunt this year but not yet.

When is the ToC?

inkyfingers

The Mad Rapper wrote:

deejay wrote:

Start counting him out after the California jaunt this year but not yet.

When is the ToC?

In May, but from what i've read Cav will be riding that little race in Italy instead.

iainf72

deejay wrote:

Why worry about Cav, he rides for a USA team and we know what that public only have interest in.

Yes indeed. You never see HTC before the AToC and the TdF. I mean, it's not like they win races for the whole season, every season. :roll:

deejay

frenchfighter wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Great race

Like Paris Tours...hmm

OK, not this year
The Nibali attack on the Poggio brought tears to my eyes with Nostalgia and excitement.
Then that last corner (top of Poggio) and 8 or so riders went round it, I knew we had an MSR special this year.

A little rain shower in the right place is the only ingredient needed to turn this Monument into it's former Glories. :twisted:

I feel justified in airing my opinion with the responses in this thread now knowing what the Hell is he going on about.
To make my point I had to throw in the Paris-Tours which has been modified from the days of, "The longest Sprint in the World" as it was known.
They circle the Town of Tours to collect a few hills and now it is not always a mass sprint to win.
Anybody got any news of the Tram Lines in there. ???

Next, The Dwars Door Vlaanderen. Steegman anyone.??

rick_chasey

deejay wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

Great race

Like Paris Tours...hmm

OK, not this year
The Nibali attack on the Poggio brought tears to my eyes with Nostalgia and excitement.
Then that last corner (top of Poggio) and 8 or so riders went round it, I knew we had an MSR special this year.

A little rain shower in the right place is the only ingredient needed to turn this Monument into it's former Glories. :twisted:

I feel justified in airing my opinion with the responses in this thread now knowing what the Hell is he going on about.
To make my point I had to throw in the Paris-Tours which has been modified from the days of, "The longest Sprint in the World" as it was known.
They circle the Town of Tours to collect a few hills and now it is not always a mass sprint to win.
Anybody got any news of the Tram Lines in there. ???

Next, The Dwars Door Vlaanderen. Steegman anyone.??

If he rides it, Canc has got to be the man for Dwars.

Remember him turning on the turbos in aid of Breschel last year? Bloody exciting that was.

deejay

Rick Chasey wrote:

deejay wrote:

Next, The Dwars Door Vlaanderen. Steegman anyone.??

If he rides it, Canc has got to be the man for Dwars.

Remember him turning on the turbos in aid of Breschel last year? Bloody exciting that was.

I think there are "Cards" very close to the chest at the moment.

Saturday the Harelbeke E3 which Spartacus won last year with a bit of bike handling thro the inside of the roundabout and his time trial to win with Boonen & Flecha unable to catch him.

Sunday the Gent-Wevelgem

Tuesday the 3 day De Panne

Time for a new thread, perhaps ??

ddraver

Pross wrote:

cornoyemade wrote:

The Mad Rapper wrote:

The question is, where does this leave Cavendish? Because in a flat out sprint, there's not a huge amount between them; Goss is far more versatile as well, he's no one trick pony.

Cheers to Goss. Loved it. Looks like the emperor has no clothes without his teammates pulling his fat ars* to the line (also known as a "lead out")

Can't wait to see cav crying and pouting and otherwise behaving badly in order to get HTC management to put the brakes on Goss and Renshaw.
)

Could this be the most stupid post ever in the Pro Race section? It takes some doing to win that accolade! You'd have thought after last season people may have learned. Looks like good tactics from HTC as they now have riders capable of winning early season races whilst Cav concentrates on winning stages of the GTs (and possibly the points jerseys). 12 months ago people were also saying how Greipel needed to move from HTC as he could compete with Cav (including Greipel himself) and yet he hasn't exactly set the world alight so far.

Dammit you beat me to it! Exactly what I thought. Goss has targeted the "southern Summer" to win big in his home country and then have a crack at the classics. He ll be knackered by the Northern Summer when Cav will start to stretch his legs again!