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Wallace1492
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Do you notice that the student protests don't start till the afternoon?
Also what part of destroying a police vehicle will help there protestings.....
These people should be jailed, and their names circulated to ensure none of them ever get a job. Oh and no, absolutely no state aid.
Also what part of destroying a police vehicle will help there protestings.....
These people should be jailed, and their names circulated to ensure none of them ever get a job. Oh and no, absolutely no state aid.
"Encyclopaedia is a fetish for very small bicycles"
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Wallace1492 wrote:Do you notice that the student protests don't start till the afternoon?
Also what part of destroying a police vehicle will help there protestings.....
These people should be jailed, and their names circulated to ensure none of them ever get a job. Oh and no, absolutely no state aid.
How dare they be unsatisfied with the status quo.0 -
String em up. It's the only language they understand.0
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Don't get me wrong.... protest - absolutely. Destroy police vehicles - totally overstepping the mark.
Wonder how many of them are real students, and how many are the tree hugging, lentil eating rent-a-mob?"Encyclopaedia is a fetish for very small bicycles"0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:Do you notice that the student protests don't start till the afternoon?
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Wednesday afternoons are lecture/seminar free across the country, in order to allow for the sports teams to play each other etc.
Studens are not stupid - they're the people who will be running the country soon. Why miss out on something they've paid for?0 -
Nah, bring on the chaosI used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.0
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Wonder how many of them are real students, and how many are the tree hugging, lentil eating rent-a-mob?
Surely that should be beer-swilling, drug sniffing, stab you in the face rent-a-mob?
And yeah how dare they protest?
Speaking as a graduate who paid £12,000 for the privelidge of my degree I would have been pretty narked if that bill had gone up to £27,000 and would indeed have been protesting right about now.
I think the story is a bit one sided though as not everyone will end up with total debt this high - some fees are a lot lower, and courses will probably soon be completed in 2 years instead. I think I'm right in saying though that the government is slashing uni central funding by 80% (80 per cent!) so no wonder the uni's are having to push up fees.
Whatever the arguments - I'm sorry for the new crop of A-level leavers because they won't have the opportunity I had, but having a bloody riot to make up for it is too much.
The f***ing a***hole who dropped the fire extingusher onto the police the other week deserves to burn, for example.FCN 4 - BMC CX020 -
hfidgen wrote:Wonder how many of them are real students, and how many are the tree hugging, lentil eating rent-a-mob?
Surely that should be beer-swilling, drug sniffing, stab you in the face rent-a-mob?
And yeah how dare they protest?
Speaking as a graduate who paid £12,000 for the privelidge of my degree I would have been pretty narked if that bill had gone up to £27,000 and would indeed have been protesting right about now.
I think the story is a bit one sided though as not everyone will end up with total debt this high - some fees are a lot lower, and courses will probably soon be completed in 2 years instead. I think I'm right in saying though that the government is slashing uni central funding by 80% (80 per cent!) so no wonder the uni's are having to push up fees.
Whatever the arguments - I'm sorry for the new crop of A-level leavers because they won't have the opportunity I had, but having a bloody riot to make up for it is too much.
The f***ing a***hole who dropped the fire extingusher onto the police the other week deserves to burn, for example.0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:Don't get me wrong.... protest - absolutely. Destroy police vehicles - totally overstepping the mark.
Wonder how many of them are real students, and how many are the tree hugging, lentil eating rent-a-mob?
I'm guessing you'd agree that any group of protesters you don't empathise with are a "rent-a-mob" :P0 -
notsoblue wrote:Wallace1492 wrote:Don't get me wrong.... protest - absolutely. Destroy police vehicles - totally overstepping the mark.
Wonder how many of them are real students, and how many are the tree hugging, lentil eating rent-a-mob?
I'm guessing you'd agree that any group of protesters you don't empathise with are a "rent-a-mob" :P
Not at all all are entitled to protest. I actually have a lot of sympathy for their cause, however this one is ripe for the rent-a-mob brigade. 8)"Encyclopaedia is a fetish for very small bicycles"0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:Not at all all are entitled to protest. I actually have a lot of sympathy for their cause, however this one is ripe for the rent-a-mob brigade. 8)
Perhaps, but just because some of their peer group are d*ckheads doesn't mean that they shouldn't be allowed to protest... It shouldn't even devalue their protest imo.0 -
Lets keep in all on the same thread chaps
http://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/foru ... t=12740986
And the fire extinguisher chap should get the 5 year term. Idiot.
As to the others - protest all you like, but don't start getting your nappies in a twist if you lose any public support when people are injured or property damaged....0 -
Good luck to them. Most sectors of society have bent over and taken it up the ar5e for years, nice to see someone fighting back for once. Vive la revolution.<a>road</a>0
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totally agree.
i hope this increase of the fee will stop students to study courses which has no future and wasting our tax payers' money."It is not impossible, its just improbable"
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W1 wrote:Lets keep in all on the same thread chaps
http://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/foru ... t=12740986
And the fire extinguisher chap should get the 5 year term. Idiot.
As to the others - protest all you like, but don't start getting your nappies in a twist if you lose any public support when people are injured or property damaged....
New protest, new thread.... that one is old hat...... maybe we should only ever have one "what lights" thread.....
Maybe it is me that should be out protesting as my hard earned tax is being used to pay their courses (or at least some of).
Anyway, the pictures coming in remind me of the Rangers fans in Manchester...."Encyclopaedia is a fetish for very small bicycles"0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:W1 wrote:Lets keep in all on the same thread chaps
http://www.bikeradar.com/commuting/foru ... t=12740986
And the fire extinguisher chap should get the 5 year term. Idiot.
As to the others - protest all you like, but don't start getting your nappies in a twist if you lose any public support when people are injured or property damaged....
New protest, new thread.... that one is old hat...... maybe we should only ever have one "what lights" thread.....
Maybe it is me that should be out protesting as my hard earned tax is being used to pay their courses (or at least some of).
Anyway, the pictures coming in remind me of the Rangers fans in Manchester....
I think I'll go out and protest at the unfairness of having to go out and work for a living. I mean having to get up at 7:30 to sit in an office to earn money that the government gets a cut off...it just ain't fair.0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:New protest, new thread.... that one is old hat...... maybe we should only ever have one "what lights" thread.....
Maybe it is me that should be out protesting as my hard earned tax is being used to pay their courses (or at least some of).
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You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.0 -
Water cannon would soon disperse them on a cold day like today.0
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Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.0 -
Wallace1492 wrote:Do you notice that the student protests don't start till the afternoon?
We had students protesting in Lancaster by 10am or so.0 -
W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them<a>road</a>0 -
el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:
You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.
Spot on. Kids are getting screwed. The sooner they wake up and start taking some stuff back the better.0 -
whyamihere wrote:el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them
Exactly. Get real - the people out there smashing up police vans aren't going to be hit by this one jot.
It's just an excuse for a riot.0 -
whyamihere wrote:el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them
a) they have every right to act in solidarity with their future colleagues b) BBC are reporting lots of school age teenagers in the protest<a>road</a>0 -
TheStone wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:
You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.
Spot on. Kids are getting screwed. The sooner they wake up and start taking some stuff back the better.
Feel free to give them your house/TV/wages if you feel that strongly about it......0 -
W1 wrote:TheStone wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:
You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.
Spot on. Kids are getting screwed. The sooner they wake up and start taking some stuff back the better.
Feel free to give them your house/TV/wages if you feel that strongly about it......
The last 10 years credit boom and exponenential growth of the national debt has severely impacted the younger generations chance of ever getting a house. They might be trying to steal yours in a few years time.<a>road</a>0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Wallace1492 wrote:New protest, new thread.... that one is old hat...... maybe we should only ever have one "what lights" thread.....
Maybe it is me that should be out protesting as my hard earned tax is being used to pay their courses (or at least some of).
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You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.
I beg from no-one!!
I do have a lot of sympathy with the student situation. When I was at uni, i actually got a grant to go there, as well as all fees paid..."Encyclopaedia is a fetish for very small bicycles"0 -
W1 wrote:whyamihere wrote:el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them
Exactly. Get real - the people out there smashing up police vans aren't going to be hit by this one jot.
It's just an excuse for a riot.
Soooooo, nobody should be protesting about this at all? Or only 15 yr olds should be out protesting? Have you considered that some of the students might want to do Masters or PhD? This would affect them.0 -
el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:TheStone wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:
You might change your mind about the same people in 20 years time when you're begging for a pension... :roll:
Students are angry because employers demand degrees, and yet those same employers demand students pay for the priviledge, despite the fact that that said generation screwed the economy and thus the young job prospects. Said generation has laden the country with ridiculous debt, and are now demanding the students who will eventually be tasked with paying off said debt to take on even more debt to try and get the quickly dissapearing jobs. Not cool.
Spot on. Kids are getting screwed. The sooner they wake up and start taking some stuff back the better.
Feel free to give them your house/TV/wages if you feel that strongly about it......
The last 10 years credit boom and exponenential growth of the national debt has severely impacted the younger generations chance of ever getting a house. They might be trying to steal yours in a few years time.
Because in the last 10 years no first time buyer has bought a house?0 -
notsoblue wrote:W1 wrote:whyamihere wrote:el_presidente wrote:W1 wrote:Most of the protesters probably haven't even read the proposals (going by the comments from last time) and just want an excuse to act like a yob.
In which case I hope the police treat them in the same way they would any other mindless hooligan.
If you're 15 and disenfrachised yet facing £27,000 of debt just to get a degree then what other means of connection with the government do you have? Good luck to them
Exactly. Get real - the people out there smashing up police vans aren't going to be hit by this one jot.
It's just an excuse for a riot.
Soooooo, nobody should be protesting about this at all? Or only 15 yr olds should be out protesting? Have you considered that some of the students might want to do Masters or PhD? This would affect them.
And if they want to do a Masters or a PhD, why shouldn't they pay for it?0