Incoming - tube strike
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Hey, why's all you peeps arguing? Our London Mayor promised no more strikes and 24hr manned stations too so why stress !
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ketsbaia wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Ketsbaia - what percentage of the total staff of that nature is the 800 that are not being replaced?
It's difficult to say as the consultation is ongoing during the dispute and natural wastage is hard to calculate.
In fact, there's no way I can put a figure on it. And even if I wanted to, I doubt I'd get access to exact figures either.
800 expressed as a percentage of the current workforce? I mean, I have no idea how many people do this job. Sorry, bad explanation before.0 -
I bet they went on strike becasue Boris wanted more ppl to use his bikes the racks were totally empty in most placed I passed today...
The knock on effect was that the roads were over loaded with car drivers, motorcyclist, cyclist and anyone else that doesn't use travel in London casuing total chaos every where not a nice ride in any way. I did here lots LAS vehicles trying to get through all of that, maybe it was to pick up the mess.
Oh all the people stood at the bus stopped looked like this :x :twisted: I did think of yelling this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auhZ23yGcno
Well until the next one...0 -
Greg66 wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Couldn't be bothered reading the thread.
Has Porgy turned up yet? Or is he still lurking?
Secondary picketing. He'll be long a bit later to moan at how the police picked especially on him.
I can't be arsed to read all of this. From what I got from a high speed skim, it's the Socialist Worker subscribers' alliance vs right minded people. As usual. Right?
I look forward to the issue which pits right minded people against hard working families.
I'd get the Sky back in just to see that on PPV.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Anyone know if Bob Crow worked from home today?FCN 2-4.
"What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
"It stays down, Daddy."
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cjcp wrote:Anyone know if Bob Crow worked from home today?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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I am rather suprised this thread has gone to 11 pages. After all, us commuting cyclists float serenely above it all...0
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TailWindHome wrote:Greg66 wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Couldn't be bothered reading the thread.
Has Porgy turned up yet? Or is he still lurking?
Secondary picketing. He'll be long a bit later to moan at how the police picked especially on him.
I can't be arsed to read all of this. From what I got from a high speed skim, it's the Socialist Worker subscribers' alliance vs right minded people. As usual. Right?
I look forward to the issue which pits right minded people against hard working families.
I'd get the Sky back in just to see that on PPV.
Lol! The ultimate rhetorical showdown...0 -
biondino wrote:Ban the tube from striking and you see what happens to wages. Soon the only people who'll take the jobs are the ones too incapable to do anything else. Not sure I want them looking after my safety.
Christ, do any of you nimby bastards actually think your arguments through? Workers rights are a GOOD THING. But no, you're all so focused on a) yourself and b) the micro-short term that you'd have a more or less fair system crumble to dust because you have to get the f*cking bus once in a while.
This is probably the best post of the thread.0 -
Stevo 666 wrote:cjcp wrote:Anyone know if Bob Crow worked from home today?
Point of order: he's an employee of the RMT0 -
Greg66 wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Couldn't be bothered reading the thread.
Has Porgy turned up yet? Or is he still lurking?
Secondary picketing. He'll be long a bit later to moan at how the police picked especially on him.
I can't be arsed to read all of this. From what I got from a high speed skim, it's the Socialist Worker subscribers' alliance vs right minded people. As usual. Right? And the Union is bitching and moaning about safety, but wants at least as much money for its members as previously, if not more. Because better paid employees provide better safety standards, obv - that's a well known direct connection. And (I assume) the current staffing levels are already pared to the bone after years and years of Labour "you can have a job too" credo. So not a single employee can be lost.without compromising the safety standards of THE ENTIRE TUBE NETWORK!!! "Making me redundant is like murdering a passenger".
What a load of old tosh.
This is all about a Union throwing its weight around to make itself important in the Labour leader contest. That fat shite Crow should be chucked under one of his beloved tubes. Except he'd probably squash it against the ceiling of the tunnel.
Greg - when it suits you you paint me as a jack booted bully boy - then at other times you decide i'm some sort of hippy, be-sandaled dolphin loving, tree hugging nature boy in a hemp shirt and munching carrots. You need to make your mind up what ridiculous stereotype you think I am and then stick with it. I'm neither of course - but I wouldn't want to ruin your little bit of innocent fun.
And on another point: TSSA the white collar union of travel workers also went on strike. Bob Crowe has no influence over TSSA. TSSA rarely strike and never "throw their weight around" in the manner of the RMT. However, most news reports seem not to mention this as it doesn;t fit into their neat little Bob Crowe demonisation version of events.
Fact is - this strike was put to the ballot and the majority of those who voted, voted to strike. If you don't like it then lobby your mp to change the rules to make it even harder to strike - or lump it....and please stop whinging - it's tedious in the extreme.
By the way - I though your analysis was really sophisticated - that was a really mature piece of prose you presented there. Well done!0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:ketsbaia wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Ketsbaia - what percentage of the total staff of that nature is the 800 that are not being replaced?
It's difficult to say as the consultation is ongoing during the dispute and natural wastage is hard to calculate.
In fact, there's no way I can put a figure on it. And even if I wanted to, I doubt I'd get access to exact figures either.
800 expressed as a percentage of the current workforce? I mean, I have no idea how many people do this job. Sorry, bad explanation before.
This is a good point, 800 sounds a lot and neither party are giving a comparative figure as part of their justification/counter argument i.e:
Its only 10% of the workforce
Or
800 out of 2000 workers is too many
This all leads me to believe that no matter how justified the job cuts through natural wastage is, the figure of 800 was written on the back of a fag packet by some top Tube boss too lazy to really do the maths or communicate the logic behind the decision.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Porgy wrote:Greg66 wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Couldn't be bothered reading the thread.
Has Porgy turned up yet? Or is he still lurking?
Secondary picketing. He'll be long a bit later to moan at how the police picked especially on him.
My work here is done.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Traffic was a bee-atch this morning too. Not as bad as yesterday but from Clapham onwards was pretty horrible. Did all those people like sitting in their cars so much they decided to do it again?0
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Kurako wrote:Traffic was a bee-atch this morning too. Not as bad as yesterday but from Clapham onwards was pretty horrible. Did all those people like sitting in their cars so much they decided to do it again?
Same coming from north London. I had the same thought this morning too.FCN 9 || FCN 50 -
DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:ketsbaia wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:Ketsbaia - what percentage of the total staff of that nature is the 800 that are not being replaced?
It's difficult to say as the consultation is ongoing during the dispute and natural wastage is hard to calculate.
In fact, there's no way I can put a figure on it. And even if I wanted to, I doubt I'd get access to exact figures either.
800 expressed as a percentage of the current workforce? I mean, I have no idea how many people do this job. Sorry, bad explanation before.
This is a good point, 800 sounds a lot and neither party are giving a comparative figure as part of their justification/counter argument i.e:
Its only 10% of the workforce
Or
800 out of 2000 workers is too many
Well, that's my point exactly DDD, we don't know whether there are currently 1600 people doing this job, or 80,000.
The way the RMT are going on about it you'd think only 801 people did the job...0 -
Given the total number of tube stations I think TFL would have a good case for a few cuts if there were 80,000 doing the job.0
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Sewinman wrote:Given the total number of tube stations I think TFL would have a good case for a few cuts if there were 80,000 doing the job.
Yes indeedy.0 -
Here comes the little fishy... hook!Porgy wrote:I have left the RMT and joined a more "reasonable" union.Porgy wrote:Before that I left the Labour Party in 1990 and joined the Green PartyPorgy wrote:I am no longer a "lefty";Porgy wrote:the moronic comments from Gregg66.Porgy wrote:In fact secondary picketing is illegalPorgy wrote:when it suits you you paint me as a jack booted bully boyPorgy wrote:Fact is - this strike was put to the ballot and the majority of those who voted, voted to strike. If you don't like it then lobby your mp to change the rules to make it even harder to strike - or lump it....and please stop whinging - it's tedious in the extreme.0
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Bob Crow naturally is a director of the RMT's pension fund so his home address is published in their accounts/financial records, I am at least thinking of sending hima christmas card but I wonder if people bitterly opposed to his action have interest in it, surely the man is heading in that direction?0
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I am writing to let you know that the RMT and TSSA unions have called a 24 hour Tube strike. If the strike goes ahead, there is likely to be disruption to Tube services from the evening of Tuesday 2 November and throughout Wednesday 3 November.
We expect all other TfL services, including London Overground, DLR and Tramlink, to run as normal, but they may be busier than usual. In addition, extra Bus and River services will be in operation. Cycling or walking may also be practical options for many.
For the latest information, visit tfl.gov.uk, which is now available in a mobile format, or check local news and travel reports.
Its that time again - another Tube Strike - loads of inexperienced cyclists with no lights invading the dark streets - nothing like a bit of extra spice to the journey.0 -
JZed wrote:I am writing to let you know that the RMT and TSSA unions have called a 24 hour Tube strike. If the strike goes ahead, there is likely to be disruption to Tube services from the evening of Tuesday 2 November and throughout Wednesday 3 November.
We expect all other TfL services, including London Overground, DLR and Tramlink, to run as normal, but they may be busier than usual. In addition, extra Bus and River services will be in operation. Cycling or walking may also be practical options for many.
For the latest information, visit tfl.gov.uk, which is now available in a mobile format, or check local news and travel reports.
Its that time again - another Tube Strike - loads of inexperienced cyclists with no lights invading the dark streets - nothing like a bit of extra spice to the journey.
Thanks.
I just mentioned this to my work colleagues who forgot. I shall now sit back and watch the anger fly in the knowledge that my trusty ole steed will get me to work on time 8)0 -
*sigh
The strikers have impeccable timing. Yet again they have managed to arrange their strike to coincide with a day when I have to drive to work. Brilliant.
What are they moping about this time? Was a person fired again? :roll:0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:*sigh
The strikers have impeccable timing. Yet again they have managed to arrange their strike to coincide with a day when I have to drive to work. Brilliant.
What are they moping about this time? Was a person fired again? :roll:
Couldn't be bothered with generating a new reason so striking over the same 800 jobs.0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:*sigh
The strikers have impeccable timing. Yet again they have managed to arrange their strike to coincide with a day when I have to drive to work. Brilliant.
What are they moping about this time? Was a person fired again? :roll:
Probably for opening the doors on the wrong side or getting the forward/backwards button confused.
Still, at least the commies will lose even more public support whilst attempting to blackmail the capital so they can protect their jobs/income/incompetence.0 -
Maybe they are striking as there has been a cap on housing benefits.......0
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W1 wrote:[so they can protect their jobs/income/incompetence.
OK - back that up!!Hello! I've been here over a month now.0