TdF Stage 8 *spoiler*

calvjones

frenchfighter wrote:

Horner's long take:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/horner/2010/ ... ris_h.html

Small reactions from various riders:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/reactio ... ghth-stage

"The front group clearly wasn't interested in letting Lance get back on"


No sh1t Sherlock.

greasedscotsman

frenchfighter wrote:

I'm more concerned why the Eskatel rider doesn't appear to have a head!

blazing_saddles

DaveyL wrote:

I quite liked Horner til I saw this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ituh5z6P6TU

Yes. Comes across as a tosseur, par excellence.
Not at all a totally biased opinion. :roll:
He doesn't explain how Kloden was going to get rid of Andy S.
I wonder why?

Bernardus

BikingBernie wrote:

johnfinch wrote:

Too excitable to be Swiss or Belgian.

You have clearly never stood by the side of the road at the Tour of Flanders.

You clearly don't understand Belgium.

Pross

The peloton sat up for LA to get back the first time and no-one rode hard the second time. Sky only went to the front once he'd not only regained the peloton but had moved up to the front. OK, they probably knew he'd be suffering but that's just tough they can't just hang around waiting for a rider to recover before the racing starts.

takethehighroad

Pross wrote:

The peloton sat up for LA to get back the first time and no-one rode hard the second time. Sky only went to the front once he'd not only regained the peloton but had moved up to the front. OK, they probably knew he'd be suffering but that's just tough they can't just hang around waiting for a rider to recover before the racing starts.

Tell that to Spartacus lol, he'll have a word with Pescheux

Pross

But he seems to agree with me after time for reflection as he seemed happy to race the next day when riders crashed (none were Saxo riders though oddly ).

rick_chasey

Procycling is all about kicking your competitors when they're down.

See them suffering? Attack.

That's the whole point.

Avoiding crashes is part of cycling anyway.

donrhummy

greeny12 wrote:

Crikey, Horner's been around Lance too long - talk about "I'm not paranoid, they really are out to get us"

....as if everything the peloton did was to have a go at Armstrong! They have their own races to ride too, you know guys, and the world no longer revolves around Big Tex despite what the media think.

Show me an actual quote where he says that first of all, and secondly, Contador himself said, Astana went to the front to push hard when they heard Lance was in trouble.

donrhummy

DaveyL wrote:

I quite liked Horner til I saw this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ituh5z6P6TU

Can you blame the guy? Contador WAS the one who decided not to take Horner.

afx237vi

donrhummy wrote:

DaveyL wrote:

I quite liked Horner til I saw this interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ituh5z6P6TU

Can you blame the guy? Contador WAS the one who decided not to take Horner.

With that reasoning, you could also blame Armstrong for Horner missing out because he wanted to take Popovych. After all, LA and Horner haven't always been the best of buddies:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2007/11/ ... rner_13695

Pross

donrhummy wrote:

greeny12 wrote:

Crikey, Horner's been around Lance too long - talk about "I'm not paranoid, they really are out to get us"

....as if everything the peloton did was to have a go at Armstrong! They have their own races to ride too, you know guys, and the world no longer revolves around Big Tex despite what the media think.

Show me an actual quote where he says that first of all, and secondly, Contador himself said, Astana went to the front to push hard when they heard Lance was in trouble.

His comment suggests that they lifted the pace when he was down. That is very different to pushing hard once he had been dropped. No-one lifted the pace after either of the first two crashes until he was safely back in the bunch. They're perfectly within their rights to make it hard for him once he was back on even if you abide by the 'unwritten rules'.

dennisn

Pross wrote:

donrhummy wrote:

greeny12 wrote:

Crikey, Horner's been around Lance too long - talk about "I'm not paranoid, they really are out to get us"

....as if everything the peloton did was to have a go at Armstrong! They have their own races to ride too, you know guys, and the world no longer revolves around Big Tex despite what the media think.

Show me an actual quote where he says that first of all, and secondly, Contador himself said, Astana went to the front to push hard when they heard Lance was in trouble.

His comment suggests that they lifted the pace when he was down. That is very different to pushing hard once he had been dropped. No-one lifted the pace after either of the first two crashes until he was safely back in the bunch. They're perfectly within their rights to make it hard for him once he was back on even if you abide by the 'unwritten rules'.

+1

donrhummy

Pross wrote:

donrhummy wrote:

greeny12 wrote:

Crikey, Horner's been around Lance too long - talk about "I'm not paranoid, they really are out to get us"

....as if everything the peloton did was to have a go at Armstrong! They have their own races to ride too, you know guys, and the world no longer revolves around Big Tex despite what the media think.

Show me an actual quote where he says that first of all, and secondly, Contador himself said, Astana went to the front to push hard when they heard Lance was in trouble.

His comment suggests that they lifted the pace when he was down. That is very different to pushing hard once he had been dropped. No-one lifted the pace after either of the first two crashes until he was safely back in the bunch. They're perfectly within their rights to make it hard for him once he was back on even if you abide by the 'unwritten rules'.

OK, I'll go with that.

greeny12

donrhummy wrote:

Pross wrote:

donrhummy wrote:

greeny12 wrote:

Crikey, Horner's been around Lance too long - talk about "I'm not paranoid, they really are out to get us"

....as if everything the peloton did was to have a go at Armstrong! They have their own races to ride too, you know guys, and the world no longer revolves around Big Tex despite what the media think.

Show me an actual quote where he says that first of all, and secondly, Contador himself said, Astana went to the front to push hard when they heard Lance was in trouble.

His comment suggests that they lifted the pace when he was down. That is very different to pushing hard once he had been dropped. No-one lifted the pace after either of the first two crashes until he was safely back in the bunch. They're perfectly within their rights to make it hard for him once he was back on even if you abide by the 'unwritten rules'.

OK, I'll go with that.

Thanks to my legal team for a swift resolution...