WSJ Part 2

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited July 2010 in Pro race
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    SSDD?
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Hincapie better be rehearsing something a bit more convincing than his "I'm a nice guy" schtick then.

    Oh to be privy to any conversations between him and LA in the peleton today. :wink:
  • BikingBernie
    BikingBernie Posts: 2,163
    edited July 2010
    The investigation into the blood-doping equipment linked to Armstrong's Astana team during last year's race is also still ongoing.

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4837/ ... going.aspx
  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    I heard that he swapped that equipment with someone, think he got a watch for it
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    andyp wrote:
    Hincapie better be rehearsing something a bit more convincing than his "I'm a nice guy" schtick then.

    If you think that's bad, you should hear the Andy Rihs interview on the cyclingnews podcast from the Tour. I think I felt less uncomfortable when I had to have my nuts checked during a medical.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    edited July 2010
    iainf72 wrote:
    I think I felt less uncomfortable when I had to have my nuts checked during a medical.
    :lol::lol::lol: Back to the 1980's then.
    When the Iron Curtain countries and their Grotesque women caused the standard Athletics check to see if they had nuts or a :roll:

    OK I had my nuts checked in the Army. :wink:
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Shock Horror Hincapie & Armstrong sitting at the back discussing the papers Can you get the Wall Street Journal in France ?
  • micron
    micron Posts: 1,843
    Armstrong's lawyer calls multi Pullitzer prize winning WSJ a tabloid - really is SSDD - only short it may be same day different shit
  • BikingBernie
    BikingBernie Posts: 2,163
    micron wrote:
    Armstrong's lawyer calls multi Pullitzer prize winning WSJ a tabloid - really is SSDD - only short it may be same day different shoot
    They said the same about Le Monde. :roll:
  • micron
    micron Posts: 1,843
    And Equipe of course - oh and the Sunday Times, Credibility means so much to Team Armstrong that they must constantly fight to ruin the credibility of others - maybe it's some kind of credibilitytop trumps game they have going on :wink:
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    nothing new in that article to be honest. This story will prob die a death for awhile until after the tour and then it will be a few months maybe even a year before the investigation is finished.

    Didn't BALCO take about a year ?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    sherer wrote:
    nothing new in that article to be honest. This story will prob die a death for awhile until after the tour and then it will be a few months maybe even a year before the investigation is finished.

    Didn't BALCO take about a year ?

    I think you're right. Anything that comes of this will come from the Feds and they won't be in any great hurry.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Rather, it is designed to potentially bring charges against any team leaders and team directors who may have facilitated or encouraged doping by their riders.

    ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME! It's been pissing me off that 100's of riders get popped for doping and all those DS'/managers had no idea, nope, they were all law abiding. What crap. They were/are just as complicit.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    iainf72 wrote:

    Nice guy Hein, ain't he?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    sherer wrote:
    nothing new in that article to be honest. This story will prob die a death for awhile until after the tour and then it will be a few months maybe even a year before the investigation is finished.

    Didn't BALCO take about a year ?

    Don't you think it's significant that both Hamilton and Hincapie have confirmed that they have been asked for an interview?

    This is getting larger by the day, the link Iain posted above this post suggest claims of tax evasion and conspiracy to do so by Jim Ochowicz. Then Verbruggen wades in and shows everyone what a piece of work he is. :roll:
  • BikingBernie
    BikingBernie Posts: 2,163
    iainf72 wrote:
    Nice guy Hein, ain't he?
    He is also life honorary president of the UCI. His puppet, Pat McQuaid, is merely the president elect.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,813
    iainf72 wrote:


    its such a weird thing to do.... irrespective of how corrupt you are, why bother with this fail mail stuff?

    its not like you don't know he is likely to pass it on...

    bl00dy weirdo
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Given that this whole story has stemmed from leaked emails you'd think you'd consider the consequences of emailing Landis before you sent the mail, no?

    Someone needs to give the UCI a refresher course in PR 101.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,813
    andyp wrote:
    Given that this whole story has stemmed from leaked emails you'd think you'd consider the consequences of emailing Landis before you sent the mail, no?

    Someone needs to give the UCI a refresher course in PR 101.

    perhaps they are fake?

    if not it just indicates to me a lot of guys suffering from twisted hubris...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • paulcuthbert
    paulcuthbert Posts: 1,016
    The Landis emails are fake?

    If that was the case, would Landis not come out and defend himself as "clean", since the emails implicate him and go against his original defence?

    I doubt they are fake, as both Bruyneel and Armstrong mentioned Landis' constant hassling of them prior to the emails being sent.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,813
    The Landis emails are fake?

    If that was the case, would Landis not come out and defend himself as "clean", since the emails implicate him and go against his original defence?

    I doubt they are fake, as both Bruyneel and Armstrong mentioned Landis' constant hassling of them prior to the emails being sent.

    no the HV emails...

    i dont think they are BTW
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Strange source, but an interesting article here;

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2 ... flon-image
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    And it moves along some more

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/sport ... ref=sports

    Lance, you might want to start thinking about wallpaper for your cell....
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Armstrong denies he had any stake in Tailwind Sports;

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/sport ... .html?_r=1
  • BikingBernie
    BikingBernie Posts: 2,163
    andyp wrote:
    Armstrong denies he had any stake in Tailwind Sports;

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/sport ... .html?_r=1
    Yet more Armstrong revisionism. Clearly, the panic is setting in...

    Where Armstrong goes from here is anyone's guess. He'll remain heavily involved in cycling, as he is co-owner of Tailwind Sports, the outfit that owns and runs the Discovery Team he currently leads, and his contract with Trek runs through 2010.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DSN1I1.DTL


    Coyle: If there’s anybody he watches closer than his rivals, it’s his teammates. Especially since Armstrong is part-owner of Tailwind Sports, the for-profit company that manages the team—he is literally paying their salaries. Like a good boss, Armstrong is a great motivator and rewards those who do good work. But as his teammates know all too well, if they don’t do their job, they’re out. Dead Man’s Rules, they call it. Friendship comes second—and they all know it. As his ex-teammate Floyd Landis says, everyone is a scared of Lance. If you’re not, you haven’t been paying attention.

    http://www.booknoise.net/armstrong/qanda.html
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    He claimed a small ownership stake in his testimony, under oath, in the SCA case;

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/31833754/Lanc ... -Testimony

    Oh the irony, did you lie then Lance, or now? :lol:
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Armstrong testified under oath that he owned part of Tailwind, see page 7 of http://www.scribd.com/doc/31833754/Lanc ... -Testimony
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    andyp wrote:
    Armstrong denies he had any stake in Tailwind Sports;

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/sport ... .html?_r=1
    Yet more Armstrong revisionism. Clearly, the panic is setting in...

    Where Armstrong goes from here is anyone's guess. He'll remain heavily involved in cycling, as he is co-owner of Tailwind Sports, the outfit that owns and runs the Discovery Team he currently leads, and his contract with Trek runs through 2010.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DSN1I1.DTL


    Coyle: If there’s anybody he watches closer than his rivals, it’s his teammates. Especially since Armstrong is part-owner of Tailwind Sports, the for-profit company that manages the team—he is literally paying their salaries. Like a good boss, Armstrong is a great motivator and rewards those who do good work. But as his teammates know all too well, if they don’t do their job, they’re out. Dead Man’s Rules, they call it. Friendship comes second—and they all know it. As his ex-teammate Floyd Landis says, everyone is a scared of Lance. If you’re not, you haven’t been paying attention.

    http://www.booknoise.net/armstrong/qanda.html


    I've got to admit BB that you are really pouring it on these days. You must sense that you have him on the ropes, so to speak, and are going with the hard body shots. I haven't been following ALL of the items and postings related to all of this, but it does seem to be coming to a climax. Then again the whole thing could fizzle out like an uncapped bottle of beer. Whatever happens, I really do hope that most people aren't heavily investing, emotionally, in the outcome either way. Although I'm thinking that many are. Supporters and detractors alike.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Great summary

    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4892/ ... ation.aspx

    He's starting to sound like a man under pressure.

    "I've done a lot of good for people" - Yeah, well so did Bernie Madoff son.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.