Giro Stage 8 *spoiler*

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    We need to remember the race is only a week old, with a savage final week. After yesterday not many people would want to push on.

    Basso showed he could accelerate quicker than last year. But I think the pace was quite high in the faves group - Not many climbing dom's in there.

    Ideal for everyone for Vino to be in pink actually. He looks like he'll suffer when it gets really hard.

    he was rubbish(compared to Basso mk 1) and needed to make up time

    the end

    its better for everyone that cadel is in pink by a marginal amount and failing that distance him on the climb

    no one could drop vino or cadel and cadel didn't try so I'm calling this 1-0 for cadel

    put that in you controversy pipe
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    did LA really claim TOC is the 2nd most important race in the world after the Tour?


    he sez this stuff just to get a rise I reckon...

    Depends how you measure important I guess.

    For Radioshack, and indeed, any other sponsor with a presence in the US, it probably is in terms of the sponsors' financial gain.


    Definitely saying it to get a rise though.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784

    he was rubbish(compared to Basso mk 1) and needed to make up time

    the end

    Imagine he was a completely different person you had never heard of. Was his ride rubbish then? Why are we not saying Nibs, Scarponi et al were rubbish? Evans is rubbish too. Why didn't he try dump Vino?

    I bet even if he did ride into the lead at some point people would be moaning he's rubbish because it's not by 3 minutes or something.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited May 2010
    iainf72 wrote:

    he was rubbish(compared to Basso mk 1) and needed to make up time

    the end

    Imagine he was a completely different person you had never heard of. Was his ride rubbish then? Why are we not saying Nibs, Scarponi et al were rubbish? Evans is rubbish too. Why didn't he try dump Vino?

    I bet even if he did ride into the lead at some point people would be moaning he's rubbish because it's not by 3 minutes or something.

    well no it wouldn't but he isn't so it was


    evans doesn't want the jersey for strategic reasons and that was obvious... he didn't even bother responding to any attacks unless no one covered scarponi or scarponi couldn't cover the attacks from garzelli etc towards the end
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Evans didn't even react to Basso's attack
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Santambrogio. I thought that last week, word was BMC hadn't selected him for the Giro.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Evans didn't even react to Basso's attack

    He looked like he couldn't react to anything for a while there. But he is very tranquilo and rides his own pace.

    So, Liquigas don't expect Nibs to manage going into week 3, we're all hoping Vino goes to pieces which means it's Evans / Basso / Scarponi.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    1 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Astana 29:01:26
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:01:12
    3 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 0:01:33
    4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 0:01:51
    5 Marco Pinotti (Ita) Team HTC - Columbia 0:02:17
    6 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 0:02:26
    7 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Team Katusha 0:02:34
    8 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Acqua & Sapone 0:02:47

    Porte still in there.

    Great ride by Pinotti too!
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Evans could fade in the third...but I think Basso will anyway


    pitfalls for the GC favs

    vino doesn't get over the zoncalan or PDC TT

    Basso to fade

    sastre comes good in the fourth

    nibs either can or can't take the pressure and steps up we shall see

    Tondo to make the podium as he is clearly off the leash

    scarponi and garzelli have bad days

    evans bad day or fades or gets hit by the old one two from the Eye taliens while his team is 20 mins back down the road

    curtains for Karpets unless he comes good in the third

    wiggins for the twitteratii
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    1 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Astana 29:01:26
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:01:12
    3 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 0:01:33
    4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo 0:01:51
    5 Marco Pinotti (Ita) Team HTC - Columbia 0:02:17
    6 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Saxo Bank 0:02:26
    7 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Team Katusha 0:02:34
    8 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Acqua & Sapone 0:02:47

    Porte still in there.

    Great ride by Pinotti too!

    didn't see either of them have to watch the repeat
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Lightning
    Lightning Posts: 360
    iainf72 wrote:
    Imagine he was a completely different person you had never heard of. Was his ride rubbish then? Why are we not saying Nibs, Scarponi et al were rubbish? Evans is rubbish too. Why didn't he try dump Vino?

    I bet even if he did ride into the lead at some point people would be moaning he's rubbish because it's not by 3 minutes or something.
    Of course they were. Well, not Evans in my opinion, simply because he's relaxed with Vinos' position. He's not far from him, might feel strong on TT, and doesn't have much of a team to control next week. I don't like Evans by the way, but I think he did the right move not attacking today. And I wasn't expecting him to.

    Basso is a different story. He knows he's not good in TTs so he'll lose even more time. He has to recover time and today was a good stage to do it. I was disappointed because I wanted him to fight for it, and he tried, but wasn't strong enough.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Evans could fade in the third...but I think Basso will anyway

    I'm backing Evans FTW, but I think he'll fade in the 3'rd and Basso will improve. Basso started with below par form and has been riding in. Evans started witih fantastic form and I'm not sure he'll hold it. I hope he does though.

    But that's why we watch the races, eh?

    Anyone else roll their eyes today when a rider from a small Eye-talian team zoomed off up the road :lol:
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    iainf72 wrote:
    Evans could fade in the third...but I think Basso will anyway

    I'm backing Evans FTW, but I think he'll fade in the 3'rd and Basso will improve. Basso started with below par form and has been riding in. Evans started witih fantastic form and I'm not sure he'll hold it. I hope he does though.

    But that's why we watch the races, eh?

    Anyone else roll their eyes today when a rider from a small Eye-talian team zoomed off up the road :lol:

    unfortunately for evans i suspect they both will fade.... who hasn't got evans FTW?

    a minority round here

    he has to conserve as much as possible when he can... which isn't easy if your team is weak... he is in a good position given the circumstances and there other teams that can help..

    its unfortunate that BMC's strongmen are at the worlds 2nd most important race rather than the Giro
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    one thing playing in his favour is this "no eye talien winners yet" gazetta stuff...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    The Nibs will be fine in week 3. I don't think he is worried about his teammate.

    Vino was lucky today -- he was isolated and he looked spent. Evans rode smart. The fact that Garzelli and Scarponi didn't make a serious move today must mean that yesterday really hurt.

    If I was a Lampre rider, I wouldn't be too happy with the little prince.
  • fastercyclist
    fastercyclist Posts: 396
    What happened to David Millar?

    Yesterday everyone was harping on about him...now? :? Did he crash??
    The British Empire never died, it just moved to the Velodrome
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Came in over 17 min down in a big group.

    I guess the "Millar is going too well" thread needs an update for the hard of thinking.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • Lightning
    Lightning Posts: 360
    DaveyL wrote:
    Came in over 17 min down in a big group.

    I guess the "Millar is going too well" thread needs an update for the hard of thinking.
    He saw the thread and decided to lower his suspicions :D. Just joking. Wasn't expecting 17 minutes though.