Giro D Italia STAGE 4 Back in Italy SPOILER

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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Not bad for Sastre. Gains time on Evans.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Huge for Sastre, especially assuming Wiggins/Sky sticks to not going for overall. It puts Sastre in a very good position. Particularly because TT's are usually where he loses time, not gains it.
  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Such a shame. I think if VDV was still there, Garmin's top two for sure.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    How does this affect Millar's GC hopes today?
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    How does this affect Millar's GC hopes today?

    Karpets has gone above him on GC.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    It's curtains for, er, Millar...
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  • donrhummy
    donrhummy Posts: 2,329
    Funny on RAI, they were interviewing Millar and he's speaking in English, they're translating, and at the end, he's describing how the course was tougher in the second half and he pauses and says, "It was deceptive. Deceptive." And the translator stutters and then says, "uh...thank you...good bye." LOL.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    If only he'd gone a second or two faster on day 1, eh?
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    iainf72 wrote:
    DaveyL wrote:
    Cadel's better half is Italian, I think.

    I'm sure iain will be along in a sec to provide full biographical details...

    Yeah, like you don't know.

    :wink:

    I'm just going in with my tape measure. I'll be back in a few hours.
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Leakygas still with a full compliment on board.
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    afx237vi wrote:
    calvjones wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    ju5t1n wrote:
    how they decide the running order?

    Team classimication, reverse order.

    Thought it was reverse rider GC.

    Huh. I was going by what Harmon said, but now that I look, it's not the teams classification, but not reverse GC either.

    Millar is 3rd, but Garmin are 7th last off the ramp. I dunno...

    The teams go off in reverse team classification BUT the top 3 teams are shuffled into the reverse order of their best placed riders.

    No, I don't know why either.
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Liquigas gonna do this. PTP bonanza!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Nibbles takes the leader's jersey.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Almost dropped Stangelj then.
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Haha, Astana made a right balls up of this.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    That's a real shame.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Omega finishing plenty above BMC?

    I had to let out a little chuckle.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    How often has that happened with four stages at the start of a GT with four different leaders?
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Nibali v Basso. Let the in-fighting begin!

    (Bit of a shame Basso's too nice for that.)
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    I remember the Vuelta having about 4 different Postal leaders in 2004.
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Bernardus
    Bernardus Posts: 136
    afx237vi wrote:
    Nibali v Basso. Let the in-fighting begin!

    Not only within the team: Basso is from Varese, Nibali from Sicily.

    North Italy vs South Italy
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Basically ALL the contenders took time out of Cuddles, today, yes?
    Both he and Vino were ripping the legs off their respective teams.
    I think Vince might be happy with his 11th hour drafting.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Basically ALL the contenders took time out of Cuddles, today, yes?
    Both he and Vino were ripping the legs off their respective teams.
    I think Vince might be happy with his 11th hour drafting.

    Should have stayed at Omega....
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    He took time from...er......Scarponi and Garzelli, however.
    Evans has twittered that BMC were the only, or last team to suffer crosswinds. Lotto and the rest had a tailwind.............he says. :?
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  • greeny12
    greeny12 Posts: 759
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Basically ALL the contenders took time out of Cuddles, today, yes?
    Both he and Vino were ripping the legs off their respective teams.
    I think Vince might be happy with his 11th hour drafting.

    Only Scarponi and Garzelli lost a bit, but with the teams they've got that was pretty much a guarantee. Scarponi must be hoping all those Colombians go uphill better than they TT!!!
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  • wicked
    wicked Posts: 844
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Basically ALL the contenders took time out of Cuddles, today, yes?
    Both he and Vino were ripping the legs off their respective teams.
    I think Vince might be happy with his 11th hour drafting.

    Should have stayed at Omega....

    You have to hand it to him, he leaves omega because he wants a stronger team and goes to a weaker one! :lol:
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    I think the issue is more that Lotto were still crap after 3 years there. I suspect a TdF TTT in 2011 or 12 will see a very different BMC team.
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  • wicked
    wicked Posts: 844
    calvjones wrote:
    I think the issue is more that Lotto were still crap after 3 years there. I suspect a TdF TTT in 2011 or 12 will see a very different BMC team.

    Very possibly, but then again it might not. Any more failed drug tests and they will be on thin ice with ASO?
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    wicked wrote:

    Very possibly, but then again it might not. Any more failed drug tests and they will be on thin ice with ASO?

    They'd had one positive test and handled it well. ASO like Cadel and they BMC management are in nicely with the ASO.

    Anyway, a few journalists confirming the wind for BMC wasn't as favourable as for the later starters.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    He took time from...er......Scarponi and Garzelli, however.
    Evans has twittered that BMC were the only, or last team to suffer crosswinds. Lotto and the rest had a tailwind.............he says. :?

    What is your beef with Cadel / BMC Blaze?

    Yeah, they're not the strongest team in in the world. Move on. He's in a good mental place at BMC and now we've got a World Champion giving it a go to win a GT.

    Basso and Nibs are the main contenders who are still ahead of him. Well, and goofed up Vino obviously. Sastre is still behind overall.

    My main concern is he started the Giro in way too good shape and won't be able to maintain it.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.

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