How Heavy are Your Wheels
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up hill they are about 30000 tons down hill light as a airif i had my time again would i take the time to make the right choices
naa thats no fun0 -
Re : Eclipse tubes
Has anyone found a retailer shipping to the UK ?
Nino will ship to the UK.
I just wouldn't bother though, great for hanging your bike on the scales, but IMO if you want to ride your bike then either normal tubes or ideally tubeless is a better solution. YMMV and that.0 -
RealMan wrote:How come everyone's rear is so much heavier then their front? Other way round on my bike.0
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who cares as long they dont bend or buckle every two minutesAm i strange in that i actually ENJOY going up hills? Yes, yes i am.
PS: Full - Sussers are for SOFTIES AND BIG GIRLS0 -
njee20 wrote:Re : Eclipse tubes
Has anyone found a retailer shipping to the UK ?
Nino will ship to the UK.
I just wouldn't bother though, great for hanging your bike on the scales, but IMO if you want to ride your bike then either normal tubes or ideally tubeless is a better solution. YMMV and that.
Why don't you recommend the Eclipse tubes ?Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
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Spend the money on a coach, it'll do a vast amount more good than saving 50g on your wheels! I don't personally like lightweight MTB tubes full stop, the idea of spending that much money on some is really crazy. They're for hanging your bike on scales! Like I say, if you've got the money kicking about, spend it on making yourself faster!0
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I totally understand where you're coming from in terms of fitness and skills over bikes parts.
I have pretty intense Winter training sessions planned ahead of next season already.
These have to be worth checking out, a 90g saving off rotating weight is too good to pass by.Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
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They're £50! I'll bet they puncture if you look at them strangely too. To finish first first you have to finish! Tubeless all the way for racing!0
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I don't think £100 is too bad for that kind of saving off the wheels, considering people will spend more than that on a crank upgrade to save less.
I've not tried tubeless but the weight savings don't equate to much once you've factored in tubeless tyres, liquid etc... Plus I change tyres fairly often and it gets messy then.
What tyres/tubeless kit are you running?Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
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Change tyres most races, generally use Rons, Freds, Ralphs, Nics and Mud X's, same rims as you, Stans yellow tape and valve. All tyres go up with a track pump.
There probably isn't a weight saving against the Eclipse tubes, but the point is that there are other advantages. If 56g tubes were that good there'd be people using them on sites other than Weight Weenies! Weight isn't always the biggest factor, I reckon I'm quicker with 10g extra weight in sealant, but more versatility in pressure. YMMV of course.0 -
How heavy? No idea, and I don't care. If I want to make a weight saving it'll be by cutting down on the grub and beer
Just get out and ride. The more obsessing over weight, the less time for riding :P0 -
ducatidave wrote:what happens to the rotational weight of the slime?????
if it stays at the bottom surley it cant be as hard to move
inertia???????? moments etc
mind you i only did 1 year of a level physics
should i keep my mouth shut
similar reason to why we don't all fall over due the aerodynamic drag of the atmosphere as the earths surface we stand on is travels at 1000mph (at the equator).0 -
El Capitano wrote:1635 for the front - and that's as fitted to the bike (tyre, tube, Skewer, disc + rotor)
2096 for the rear - again, as fitted to the bike (tyre, tube, skewer, rotor + cassette)
Could be lighter, but I'm quite happy with the current set up.
You're not wrong...
Front:
Wheel: American Classic hubs /Black CX-Ray Spokes/Alloy Nipples/ZTR Crest Rims (605g)
Tyre: Maxxis Flyweight (330g)
Tube: Continental (87g)
Rotor: Avid G3, (96g +7g for the Ti bolts)
Skewer: KCNC (22g)
Complete wheel weight: 1147g
Rear:
Wheel: American Classic hubs /Black CX-Ray Spokes/Alloy Nipples/ZTR Crest Rims (729g)
Tyre: Maxxis Flyweight (330g)
Tube: Continental (87g)
Rotor: Avid G3, (96g +7g for the Ti bolts)
Skewer: KCNC (22g)
Cassette: Recon Alloy (138g)
Complete wheel weight: 1409g
Total weight: 2556g
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Rims : DT Swiss XR350, 350 grams per rim
Spoke spec: DT Swiss Comp 190 grams for 32 pieces
Front Hub : ZTR (amazingly smoooooth)
Rear Hub : Tank Lights
Front wheel weight : 1120 g
Rear wheel weight : 1410 g
Front tyre: Specialized Fast Trak Control 2Bliss ready 2.0 = 535 g
Rear tyre : Maxxis Ignitor 1.95 = 505 g
Tubeless :55 g Rim strip per tyre x 2 = 110 g
So the wheelset alone weighs only : 1380 grams!I still can't understand why I want a singlespeed steel hardtail when I already have a full-susser with 27 gears.0 -
Are you actually running those wheels El Cap, or theorising?
If you are, how's the Recon cassette? I've never heard a good word about alu MTB cassettes, but they are cheap!
If you're theorising then you have no imagination, you can go far lighter!0 -
Weighed up my Hope Pro2s and Stans Crests before they were taped and tyred up....
F= 734g
R= 831g
Currently tubed, with Highrollers, 180mm and 160mm rotors. Haven't weighted them fully preped.0 -
El Cap - a 138g Cassette, what does that look like?Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
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Just no, they're utter toss by all accounts, even ti don't last, alu are a joke on an MTB in the UK.0
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njee20 wrote:Are you actually running those wheels El Cap, or theorising?
If you are, how's the Recon cassette? I've never heard a good word about alu MTB cassettes, but they are cheap!
If you're theorising then you have no imagination, you can go far lighter!
Nope, got everything ready and waiting for the back end of the NRS to come back from the resprayers:
Wheels:
Cassette:
Tyres & tubes already fitted:
Skewers:
Rotors:
Re the cassette, I'll give it 100 miles before its in pieces. Granted, it's light and cheap, but can't really see it lasting that long.0 -
Shame really, If they lasted they'd be alright! Ive seen a number snap when changing gear, same with the KCNCs.
I have to wonder though, why a ridiculous cassette that's no use and not Podium or even Alpine rims?0 -
Why spray it, leave it bare and save about 150g!0
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They could be lighter
In fact looking at the pics they are lighter
160mm rotor is now on the front and a hope 140mm is on the rear -42g
Ti rotor bolts so a few more grams
18t star ratchet swapped for the 36t - 10g
so thats 2780g all in
the xtr cassette will be swapped for a xg999 when its trashed so thats another 40g
and thats about as far as i will go theres no way I'm dropping the skewers i love them even if they are heavy.
as for tyres i like some grip so no flyweights here0 -
Nice setup Gezzza - the same weight as my XC setup
As njee20 said earlier; it's probably worth running a few grams heavier to ensure stiffness.Specialized Enduro SL Pro Carbon
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Amateur Gezza:
Add Furious Freds, Scrub Raceday rotors with 3 ti bolts, Tune Skyline skewers and an alu cassette and you'd save about a pound.0 -
Ive seen lighter than that, pah! Try harder ;-)0
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958g disc clincher wheels? I have to say I thought they were the lightest out there, I wouldn't want to use them! What've you seen that's lighter?!0
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Couple of ways, tubs as you say lol: but aren't there lighter hubs from Tune too?
Of course non disc hubs would drop weight, but would have to factor in different rims. And of course we have carbon cassettes, but most likely you'd have to get one made for you! Amazing how silly you can get if you think about it lol.
Makes XTR wheels look like lard buckets haha. I like mine tho.0 -
Nah, Tune Prince/Princess hubs are much heavier, and even the new Dezibel rear hub is heavier. They're Extralite Ultrahubs with full ceramic bearings and Pillar ti spokes. Tub rims weigh less, but then the tubs themselves weigh more, so I think you'd struggle to save weight there. Even going non-disc, the lightest rims are something like ZTR 355s, at about 360g, those are 240g Innolites, which offsets the weight of the discs.
The bloke who owns them is about 80kg. Scary.0 -