Overbiking

bluechair84

we're all overbiked :shock:

biking is happiness currency - like it. You are surely only over biked if you have spent a fortune but still aren't having anymore fun.

Dobbs

Really WGAF?
A lot of people spouting sh1t on here;
Skill compensators?
More skills required on a HT?
FS makes it easier?
What a load of utter sh1te. Have a word with yourselves.

RealMan

I find it surprising that people still think overbiking has got anything to do with money..

supersonic

It is to some. The discussion may have started in a different context, but now certainly involves this.

RealMan

Tempted to make a new topic about money spent on bike vs actual skill level, but have a feeling we might actually all agree on that. How boring would that be. And it would probably turn into a discussion about overbiking, ironically. :roll:

mats

I have a kona dawg which my wife bought me for my b/day and which I will admit is in about 90% of circumstances to much bike for my riding style/ability so should I sell the Dawg go back to the Norco or even the trek rigid and just carry the fecker 10% of the time.....---k off
I,m actually toying with the idea of buying a Dialled Bikes Alpine frame which will still leave me overbiked once built up.

but as I have said before the bike I have does not make me a better person or a better rider but it does make me happy

supersonic

RealMan wrote:

Tempted to make a new topic about money spent on bike vs actual skill level, but have a feeling we might actually all agree on that. How boring would that be. And it would probably turn into a discussion about overbiking, ironically. :roll:

I couldn't give a hoot how much they spent - as much as they possibly can The more the better.

RealMan

supersonic wrote:

RealMan wrote:

Tempted to make a new topic about money spent on bike vs actual skill level, but have a feeling we might actually all agree on that. How boring would that be. And it would probably turn into a discussion about overbiking, ironically. :roll:

I couldn't give a hoot how much they spent - as much as they possibly can The more the better.

Exactly, its just more money to the bike industry. The only thing that annoys me are beginners who go out, buy a ridiculously expensive bike, ride it twice, then stick it in the shed forever. SELL IT PLEASE. We want bargains. Some people will think you look a bit of a dick if you have a amazing bike (especially if you're wearing team kit as well) but you're a rubbish rider, but no one really cares.

capoz77

RealMan wrote:

And anyway, I think supersonic and I came to a pretty decent conclusion a few posts up. People who are misinformed or egotistical or have just given up trying to get better and just want to be comfortable and continue riding, overbike. People who want a challenge or want to learn how to ride better, underbike. Racers use the right bike for the job every time (but then, they're after speed more then anything else).

people who want a challenge underbike, people who who just want to be comfortable overbike? What a load of uttter tosh!

People have cash in bank, and go and buy whatever bike they can afford/desire. Its as simple as that.

In effect you are saying people who have given up trying to get better/and are egotistical/ and are misinformed./ go and buy a full sus ? / spend what you perceive to be too much money?

Mate go and wash your face with cold water and make a coffee, GET A GRIP!


Your an 18 year old on minimum wage, live with parents, drive a £400 car, have a halfords bike and can't afford a good bike - hence are gutted at all the nice whips you see on the trail and take your frustration out on the forum


(see its not nice to stereotype is it LOL)

waj_uk

For me I don't think mountainbiking is technically much different between FS and fully rigid. All the same principles apply. I started on rigid went to HT then to FS. The main differences for me is that you can often pick a more optimum line down rocky descents and I can "attack" corners more on the limit knowing that a surprise rock is less likely to throw me off. This ability to push harder is more exciting for me than being shaken around.

I have also occasionally seen quite overweight people who appear pretty new to mountainbiking with very new fancy all mountain rigs wobbling along the trial. I admit it's tempting to judge but it seems like the bikes have encouraged them to get out in the fresh air and do some cycling. Surely this can only be a positive thing?

Just thought I'd also post a little video that I like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uPznTbus3g

The next steps after no suspension and single speed are go fixed wheel, remove brakes, remove front wheel and remove handle bars now that is pretty challenging!!

RealMan

Yes, and there's what's his name doing no brakes trials. Its brilliant.

waj_uk wrote:

The main differences for me is that you can often pick a more optimum line down rocky descents and I can "attack" corners more on the limit knowing that a surprise rock is less likely to throw me off. This ability to push harder is more exciting for me than being shaken around.

Its a good point, but then it sounds like you have challenging trails. Would you still ride the same thing if there weren't really any corners? If there wasn't any surprise rocks or roots? Would you have to step the travel and type of bike down, to still feel the excitement?

capoz77 wrote:

In effect you are saying people who have given up trying to get better/and are egotistical/ and are misinformed./ go and buy a full sus ? / spend what you perceive to be too much money?

Mate go and wash your face with cold water and make a coffee, GET A GRIP!


Your an 18 year old on minimum wage, live with parents, drive a £400 car, have a halfords bike and can't afford a good bike - hence are gutted at all the nice whips you see on the trail and take your frustration out on the forum

This isn't about money. This isn't about hardtail vs full sus. And care to offer other reasons why people overbike? (Other then "because they want to".. :roll: ).

I don't have a proper job, and I don't have a car, and I guess you haven't seen my bike. But I am 18.

capoz77

RealMan wrote:

Yer then "because they want to".. :roll: ).

I don't have a proper job, and I don't have a car, and I guess you haven't seen my bike. But I am 18.

Exactly, now read back through this thread and see how many stereotypical assumptions you've made!

Overbike/underbike rubbish, people buy what makes them happy. End of.

RealMan

And what if they buy the wrong bike because of some of the reasons stated above, and it doesn't make them happy?

Or what about if they think its making them happy? Sure, it will be fine - until they try out a mates bike and realize its just as fast with less effort. Or when they realize they have to pay for shock/fork/gear services etc. And it won't improve their riding as much - and I bet no one here could say they don't want their riding to improve.

A mate of mine has persuaded tons of people into trying Rigid SS, and once they try it, hardly any of them go back. He hasn't got me yet though..

andyrm

Same logic why people drive Porsches and Ferraris in this country innit. You may not need the extra trickery, and it probably won't make you a better rider, but if it makes your life more pleasurable then that's a good thing in my book.

It's also exactly the argument I have used to justify my forthcoming S3 to my mrs, conversely throwing the expensive handbag/shoes analogy of the same argument back at her.........

capoz77

RealMan wrote:

And what if they buy the wrong bike because of some of the reasons stated above, and it doesn't make them happy?

Or what about if they think its making them happy? Sure, it will be fine - until they try out a mates bike and realize its just as fast with less effort. Or when they realize they have to pay for shock/fork/gear services etc. And it won't improve their riding as much - and I bet no one here could say they don't want their riding to improve.

A mate of mine has persuaded tons of people into trying Rigid SS, and once they try it, hardly any of them go back. He hasn't got me yet though..

what if what if what if!

who cares!!! they've made the choice they're happy, if they decide to change the bike they will. Why micro analyse everything?

Dobbs

But I am 18.

There you go.
With ALL of your experience, you must know better than everyone else. :roll:

Realman?
Realboy maybe.

Where are my stabilisers?

I think I should have asked Realman before I bought my bike... he clearly knows all the "rules". Perhaps there should be a form to fill in to make sure buyers are put in to the correct box. We'd all look perfect out on the trails then - No tubsters on light bikes, no unskilled riders on bikes over £400...yawn :roll:

andyrm

OK going back to cars as an analogy. I've currently got a Golf V6 4Motion. It's lovely and really nice, but I now want an Audi S3 as it's just that bit better and a bit more trick. It's unlikely to make me a better driver and our country's road laws will prevent me going faster even though the S3 is a savagely fast motor. But I want it because I like and appreciate really well engineered things and can enjoy it for exactly that - a really high quality bit of kit.

Same for lots of people with pricey bikes. It's about having something that really is as well made as possible. My good lady's taste for outrageously expensive shoes and handbags doesn't make her any better at walking or carrying all the rubbish that girls seem to have with them all the time, but she can appreciate them for being nice shoes/bags and enjoy them on that level.

biff55

RealMan wrote:

And care to offer other reasons why people overbike? (Other then "because they want to".. :roll: )

Such as ?
"because you want to.." is probably the best reason for doing anything.
give it up realman , no-one agrees with your preconceptions as to what we should be riding.

snotty badger

14 pages and still going!

People buy what they want- deal with it!

If a single guy buys a 3 bed house is he overhoused?

And why does it bother you if you see someone with too much bike for the given trail? I wish thats all I had to be concerned about!

capoz77

snotty badger wrote:

If a single guy buys a 3 bed house is he overhoused?
!

ROFL sig worthy

biff55

got me thinking...
there's 5 seats in my car yet i mainly drive alone
clearly i'm "over-car'd"

Briggo

I only have one girlfriend at the moment, clearly I'm underwomaned.

The Big Cheese

This thread ... WTF!? :shock:

capoz77

Went to subway today and got x2 12" subs







































i'm over-chicken-teryaki'd!

nicklouse

just read this topic after having looked at page 1 some days ago.

Matt if you can read this. You Assume to much. and TBH I have not read many of your posts as after a while they get boring.

my thoughts on people buying unsuitable bikes.

why not it is their money and if they have fun so what.

Also it does not matter what you tell people if they want something even if it is not suitable they will by it.


Am I over biked on my Tank?

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopi ... light=tank

well i have got through over 200mm of the travel.

Also on the Boxster

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12610600

i have bottomed it out.

then we have the AM bike yep I use most of the travel most of the time 150/140

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12610255

then with the XC bike once in a while that uses all its travel.

the HTs have been know to get through all 100 or 130mm of travel.


What is interesting is that on the same trail. (DH course) the Tank/Boxster/Monster all use about the same % of the available travel. but the ride is different and slower/faster depending on the bike.

I am Over Biked.

Doombrain

i have to say i felt like a tool biking to work today on my scott

Eranu

This thread needs to be banned.

bails87

God, that was an ordeal!

x-isle

I think this topic is overposted.....

[Overbiked] Craig