On average how long is your weekly long ride?
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But doing that sort of length actually does help.
I've done 2 hour rides, I've done 10 hour rides, I think I know what helps me.
I'm not going to stop doing these length rides. People who think I'm stupid for doing these long rides can go **** themselves tbh as they have no idea themselves.0 -
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Rule I've widely read and seen repeated was no longer than the (in time) length of your longest race +1 hour.
Longest of my races is just over 3 hours, but definitely tops out at 4. Don't see the point in doing more than that, if you can't exhaust yourself in 4 hours, ride harder! (or do a core workout when you get back)."I hold it true, what'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost;
Than never to have loved at all."
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Sounds like will is in real good shape0
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nolf wrote:Rule I've widely read and seen repeated was no longer than the (in time) length of your longest race +1 hour.
Longest of my races is just over 3 hours, but definitely tops out at 4. Don't see the point in doing more than that, if you can't exhaust yourself in 4 hours, ride harder! (or do a core workout when you get back).
But when I start racing, I won't be in cycling just to race. I ride for run as well. You have to remember, not everyone wants to stick to just racing. I would not mind doing some 12 hour time trials eventually.0 -
Interesting how dominant the 3-4h duration is.--
"Because the cycling is pain. The cycling is soul crushing pain."0 -
Clearly people are responsing to two different questions; how long do you need to ride and how long to you like to ride. Nothing wrong with 10 hour rides and better still if you love it, but some people get put off the sport thinking they need to do mega hours.
Depends on your goals, physiology and other commitments. If you want to ride shorter TTs or road races 10 hour rides just might make you slower.0 -
alp777 wrote:freehub wrote:What would I hope to achieve doing 10 hour rides? Well it improves my endurance and also it's fun.I.
You don't need to ride 10 hrs to improve your edurance, 2hrs at the right intensity will do that.
Riding for 2 hours at a time isn't going to prepare you for a 200km+ ride though is it?
As others have pointed out though the question was how far is your long ride, not how far does your long ride NEED to be for doing 2-3 hour races.
It's okay to ride your bike for fun you know - it doesn't always have to be a training ride....More problems but still living....0 -
inseine wrote:Clearly people are responsing to two different questions; how long do you need to ride and how long to you like to ride. Nothing wrong with 10 hour rides and better still if you love it, but some people get put off the sport thinking they need to do mega hours.
Depends on your goals, physiology and other commitments. If you want to ride shorter TTs or road races 10 hour rides just might make you slower.
I don't think it would slow you down in any way if you also trained for shorter TTs, Saturday is 1 day out of 7 days in the week, with proper recovery and then other training I don't think it's slow you down at all. After a long ride like that I'm fully recovered after 1-2 days.0 -
I tend to max out at around 4 hours at the moment.
For those doing longer rides (6+ hours), I presume you stop en route for supplies or to have lunch? Must be pretty hard to carry all food and drink for such a duration.0 -
phreak wrote:I tend to max out at around 4 hours at the moment.
For those doing longer rides (6+ hours), I presume you stop en route for supplies or to have lunch? Must be pretty hard to carry all food and drink for such a duration.
I could easily carry enough food for a 6+ hours ride. I stop for water and we do have a short cafe stop.
For 70 miles 2 mars bars or something like that is all I need and I'll be fine, so for a 10 hour ride something like 10 mars bars would get me round, but on long rides like that I take energy drink, gels and 4 mars bars.0 -
Obviously it depends on how fast you push things, but I've read that you can easily burn 3,000 calories in 4 hours of riding. That's a whole lot of food to carry around with you.
As with most things I suspect its possible if there's a will.0 -
Well I remember the last long ride I did, it was 175 miles, 16.8mph average, last 14 odd miles was quickest for me I could not really feel any lactic in my legs. But I never even used all my food.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/8001045
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/11782170
The calories used is likely no where near that.0 -
4-5 at the moment, will be upping that to 6-9 pretty soon0
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9 hrs on a bike :shock: , what about mental reserve ? i love biking , but 3 hrs is more than enough for me . there are only 24hrs in a day and would some not agree that 9 hrs on the saddle is a bit of a waste ? when i do a 50 miler in 2 hrs 40 , my interest span is done and i want to go grab my les paul guitar or do many other things.0
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so for a 10 hour ride something like 10 mars bars would get me round
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I'm more impressed by your mars per hour than your miles per hour
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My longest ride last year was 130 miles, but it was flat and I was in a group so it was all over in 6.20.
Do 3.5 to 4 on a Sunday normally.0 -
JimmyK wrote:9 hrs on a bike :shock: , what about mental reserve ? i love biking , but 3 hrs is more than enough for me . there are only 24hrs in a day and would some not agree that 9 hrs on the saddle is a bit of a waste ? when i do a 50 miler in 2 hrs 40 , my interest span is done and i want to go grab my les paul guitar or do many other things.
Why would it be a waste for someone who enjoys long bike rides?
Have you heard of audax where people cycle 300km, 400km, 600km, 1000km, 1200km, 1400km,.....More problems but still living....0 -
inseine wrote:so for a 10 hour ride something like 10 mars bars would get me round
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I'm more impressed by your mars per hour than your miles per hour
Just because I posted a link to garmin connect does not mean I'm highlighting the average speed, I know the speed is low but at those sort of distances it's all I could manage then.JimmyK wrote:9 hrs on a bike :shock: , what about mental reserve ? i love biking , but 3 hrs is more than enough for me . there are only 24hrs in a day and would some not agree that 9 hrs on the saddle is a bit of a waste ? when i do a 50 miler in 2 hrs 40 , my interest span is done and i want to go grab my les paul guitar or do many other things.
Do the maths.
1 day = 24 hours....
7 days = 168 hours
168 hours - 9 hours = 159.
When I do 60 miles in 3 hours I think, that's a great ride and not a bad speed and perhaps I could have done some more..0 -
inseine wrote:
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so for a 10 hour ride something like 10 mars bars would get me round
I'm more impressed by your mars per hour than your miles per hour
I think somewhere doing all those miles you lost your sense of humour. Or maybe it's the way I tell 'um? Here's a smiley for you, just to make sure
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Sense of humour don't work well on forums.0
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redddraggon wrote:thiscocks wrote:
You obviously don't know Will. Will deals in pure facts and stats, he does exactly what he says. Bhima deals in fantasy and over exaggeration. Will actually tends to under exaggerate his abilities.
I don't know either of them but from what I have read on here I fully agree. Willhub seem painfully honest where as Bhima seems to be a young lad who will say anything to impress.
Will - Those are seriously impressive distances.0 -
KillerMetre wrote:What intensity are you guys going at during your longer rides?
For me a 100 miler starts in one universe and finishes in another. Lots of good work for the first 50 or 75 then the portal opens to the alternate world of suffering, lack of desire, exhaustion, hunger, slows cadences, slow speeds, blurred vision, despair, sunburn,and hopelessness. Strangely enough this dimension in space time seems more difficult
than the previous 75 miles ever were. So I would say intensity is UP the closer you get to the end. 0 -
JimmyK wrote:
If you have proper fitting and unworn shorts then you should have no problem. The second of those rides I was fine, but the first one, I came back and I could see the outline of the pad on my arse in the form of a deep red bloody swollen line that stung so bad, I decided to bin those shorts.0 -
freehub wrote:JimmyK wrote:
If you have proper fitting and unworn shorts then you should have no problem. The second of those rides I was fine, but the first one, I came back and I could see the outline of the pad on my ars* in the form of a deep red bloody swollen line that stung so bad, I decided to bin those shorts.
TMI. :shock:
I always found one ride of three hours plus in a fortnight and lots of shorter high intesity rides kept me much quicker and i retained the endurance to ride those occaisional much longer events.. In fact i seemed to get faster and get into the last stages, especially once others started to look pained. (if i wasnt dropped in the early madness)0 -
phreak wrote:Obviously it depends on how fast you push things, but I've read that you can easily burn 3,000 calories in 4 hours of riding. That's a whole lot of food to carry around with you.
As with most things I suspect its possible if there's a will.
That's true - my powertap said 3083kJ after a 4h ride last Sunday. That equates to around the same number of kcal.
I'd taken in about 600kcal over the ride, so a bit of a deficit was building up. Lunch tasted good --
"Because the cycling is pain. The cycling is soul crushing pain."0 -
markwalker wrote:freehub wrote:JimmyK wrote:
If you have proper fitting and unworn shorts then you should have no problem. The second of those rides I was fine, but the first one, I came back and I could see the outline of the pad on my ars* in the form of a deep red bloody swollen line that stung so bad, I decided to bin those shorts.
TMI. :shock:
I always found one ride of three hours plus in a fortnight and lots of shorter high intesity rides kept me much quicker and i retained the endurance to ride those occaisional much longer events.. In fact i seemed to get faster and get into the last stages, especially once others started to look pained. (if i wasnt dropped in the early madness)
And how long are these "much longer events"?
If I thought I'd best keep my riding to 4-5 hours MAX, then club runs would be boring, we'd not be able to get into the dales or go to nice places like bridlington, we'd suddenly find we'd be about 30-40 miles from home and notice 5 hours is up, so we'd have to get a taxi or bus the rest of the way, unless we chain ganged it all the way.
Long rides must have there place and IMO they help me and I think nothing like improving endurance than actually doing endurance rides, I know I'm improving quickly and long rides have not had an impact on my performance in a bad way. It just seems like people are trying to find so many excuses as to why it's pointless to do long rides? If people don't want to do it then fine, but like some people in the thread, they should not be having a go or moaning at people who do.
I can't believe some people think it is mad to do 100+ miles, or rather, 128 flat miles, I really am amazed at the views about doing long rides on a cycling forum. You'd think a that'd be the sort of thing that a none cyclist would do.0 -
175 miles on a nice sunny day isn't too much, if you enjoy it. I have done nearly 100 miles in the grotty winter weather, and throughly enjoyed it, so I can understand what Will is saying. No doubt if you have no other commitments, then 10 hours on the bike sounds good to me.
Last year I did 245 miles in 12 hours, cracking day on the bike, weather was great as well.0
