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Oh right yeh. I get you.
Please read my first post. I said that the problem with regards to Taxi drivers is that whatever vetting system is in place has failed, allowing people who are not capable, to get a job as a taxi driver.0 -
Economic migrants don't really have an excuse for not learning the language before the migrate. Political migrants obviously have an excuse as they are fleeing persecution.0
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NapoleonD wrote:I saw some grafitti the other day that made me realise we are all as one. It said -
'Man United'
Word...
Church brother
(i saw that in a snoop dog video)0 -
EKIMIKE wrote:Economic migrants don't really have an excuse for not learning the language before the migrate.
Depends how much notice they get. If they've been planning on moving to the UK for a long time, then of course they should learn as much of the language as they can before they get here, but in some cases they might just get a few days notice.
The same thing happened to me a few years back. I spotted a job advert in Slovakia and 5 days later I was over there, knowing only how to say please, thank you, hello and good-bye.
Life isn't always simple, unfortunately.0 -
markwalker wrote:
I went to Reading the other day and theres a murial 60ft long ( quite a few metersfor you teagar) proudly trumpeting black history culture and power complete with black gloved fists held aloft. Would the same council support white supremacist muriels?
The black gloved fist was a symbol of resistance to the white oppression of black people.
It's not a symbol of black supremacists. They may well hate the white man for the centuries of oppression, enslavement, but they're not racial supremacists.
You cannot ignore centuries of enslavement and oppression, and you certainly can't turn that hard won battle (if indeed it is won) against them, to claim that a statue commemorating an important symbolic moment is an example of discrimination of white people.Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
redddraggon wrote:I'm not going to get involved in this but I don't get the foreigner love. But my experience of them makes me think they bring the prejudice upon themselves.
How do you think they bring prejudice on themselves?Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
teagar wrote:redddraggon wrote:I'm not going to get involved in this but I don't get the foreigner love. But my experience of them makes me think they bring the prejudice upon themselves.
How do you think they bring prejudice on themselves?
That question crossed my mind as well. I remember a football match when my ex-team-mate, who had done what he could to inegrate - come here, got a job, was trying his best with the language and joining a local football team - was chased by 5 opposition players, one of them with a hammer, after one of their lot started a mass brawl.
I can't quite imagine how he brought this on himself, but I'm looking forward to finding out.0 -
teagar wrote:redddraggon wrote:I'm not going to get involved in this but I don't get the foreigner love. But my experience of them makes me think they bring the prejudice upon themselves.
How do you think they bring prejudice on themselves?
The 7 I live with are the dirtiest smelliest, most unhygienic group of people I know.0 -
redddraggon wrote:teagar wrote:redddraggon wrote:I'm not going to get involved in this but I don't get the foreigner love. But my experience of them makes me think they bring the prejudice upon themselves.
How do you think they bring prejudice on themselves?
The 7 I live with are the dirtiest smelliest, most unhygienic group of people I know.
Sure that's not because they're students?Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
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redddraggon wrote:teagar wrote:redddraggon wrote:I'm not going to get involved in this but I don't get the foreigner love. But my experience of them makes me think they bring the prejudice upon themselves.
How do you think they bring prejudice on themselves?
The 7 I live with are the dirtiest smelliest, most unhygienic group of people I know.
rofl
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i can still do a british standard drawing.redddraggon wrote:You're an "Engineer" aren't you Rake? You mustn't be at too much of a disadvantage with your lack of punctuation and capitalisation.0 -
teagar wrote:markwalker wrote:
I went to Reading the other day and theres a murial 60ft long ( quite a few metersfor you teagar) proudly trumpeting black history culture and power complete with black gloved fists held aloft. Would the same council support white supremacist muriels?
Look teager learn to read. i never said they were blacksupremicists did i
The black gloved fist was a symbol of resistance to the white oppression of black people.
It's not a symbol of black supremacists.
Look teager learn to read. i never said they were blacksupremicists did I? i commented on the image and asked if the same council would support white supremacists. dont shout that ive said something and how awful i am because it suits your immature purpose.
your whole argument is based on the premis that i was prejudicng people by the colour of their skin when i never said that. you just said i did, its not the same thing. i was avoiding hiring Africans on the basis that i didnt need to accept their applications when im awash with European candidates.
Do you like talking to customer service agents that dont speak clear intelligible English?0 -
Prejudice (strangely) means pre-judging. Your statement suggests that you pre-judge those of African origin as not capable of speaking clear intelligible English. You assume Europeans will be. This is the clearest example of racial prejudice that any one could imagine. You are clearly racist. Why pretend otherwise, come out of the closet! (you are 99% out anyway). You should probably be convicted for these practices.markwalker wrote:i was avoiding hiring Africans on the basis that i didnt need to accept their applications when im awash with European candidates.
Do you like talking to customer service agents that dont speak clear intelligible English?0 -
maybe the city council should be convicted because every single city taxi has a pakistani driver.im not exagerating. are they being racist?
i also know of a scheme paid for by taxpayers setup for bme (black and minority ethnic) mental heath scheme when they also have access to the same facilities as everyone else.is this not categorising people by race and colour?0 -
How do you know they aren't British? How do you know they are from Pakistan?0
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this is what i mean. people pick and choose weather to acknowledge a fair representation .the distinction is made in the interests of racial equality, but not now? how can there be a need for integration if everyone is british.0
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You don't make much sense.
They may well be as British as you or I (I, for example, am white, however my ancestry, going back over 1200 years, is probably from Saxony, however, I have British Nationality).
It is extraordinary that you can infer that someone is Pakistani from their appearance - what is the distinguishing feature that shows a) that they are not British, and b) that they are Pakistani?
We don't need integration, we just need to ensure that ignorant s*its in this country do not treat people like *hit because of their colour - simple really :roll:0 -
it is simple. so why are there no white taxi drivers. why are there recruitment programs specifying certain groups, it shouldnt matter if were all english?
using your logic how does this organisation exist.
http://www.bmehealthnetwork.org.uk/
the people represented there dont describe themselves as english or british yet they are settled here. so do you decree we are all british or do people decide for themselves. some people dont want to be classed as british. are they ignorant s**ts?0 -
what has "english" got to do with anything? Why do you think there are no white taxi drivers? What has skin colour got to do with nationality? Why are you starting from such a low base with your understanding?rake wrote:it is simple. so why are there no white taxi drivers. why are there recruitment programs specifying certain groups, it shouldnt matter if were all english?0 -
how do you clasify nationality then? you bought nationality into it by saying how do i know there not english.0
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Not by colour, that's for sure :roll:
Nationality: "Membership that can be acquired by being born within the jurisdiction of a state, by inheriting it from parents, or by a process of naturalization. Nationality affords the state jurisdiction over the person and affords the person the protection of the state."
I don't really think I should do the donkey work here, I have noticed before that you are under-informed and over-opinionated, why don't you take 6 months out and LEARN something about these issues, then come back, so people don't have to explain such basic issues to you. I'm out of here!0 -
because you cant answer why that organisation exists in my previous post.
not by colour thats for sure , that organisation has black in its title refering to skin colour.goodbye.0 -
alfablue wrote:
what???
dont deny what is obvious to one and all becasue it suits your feeble argument. and dont try and pretend we live in a Eutopian prejudice free world because Im certain you have prejudice on all sorts of levels.
Its human nature.0 -
Do you mean Utopian or Euro-topian?
(I should point out that this is an attempt at humour.)'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
What is obvious is that nationality is not determined by colour,I am amazed that some people still have such views as this.markwalker wrote:alfablue wrote:
what???
dont deny what is obvious to one and all becasue it suits your feeble argument. and dont try and pretend we live in a Eutopian prejudice free world because Im certain you have prejudice on all sorts of levels.
Its human nature.0 -
markwalker wrote:alfablue wrote:
what???
dont deny what is obvious to one and all becasue it suits your feeble argument. and dont try and pretend we live in a Eutopian prejudice free world because Im certain you have prejudice on all sorts of levels.
Its human nature.
I think many of you are at cross purposes here. Some are assuming that 'British' is a race and others refer to it as a nationality. Seeing as we are a multi-racial society (since at least 1066 technically) then I think that the term British best refers to our Nationality myself. But the point is you need to clarify what you are talking about - race, nationality or both?
Personally - I am British with a British passport, I live in England but racially I'm Celtic (75% Welsh, 25% Scottish). I never actually say all that of course - I'm just British. I see my mate whose family come from West Africa as British as me and he sees himself as British. I see no conflict there. By the way his English is better than mine!'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
alfablue wrote:
What is obvious is that nationality is not determined by colour,I am amazed that some people still have such views as this.markwalker wrote:alfablue wrote:
what???
dont deny what is obvious to one and all becasue it suits your feeble argument. and dont try and pretend we live in a Eutopian prejudice free world because Im certain you have prejudice on all sorts of levels.
Its human nature.
Ok when the human eye looks at something it makes judgements, in the case of people its a sub concious flash of the eye thing but includes colour (even liberals and you alfablue) height weight dress attitude location context, in the same flash of time, personal experience and prejudice is added in and decisons made and views formed.
Hence why its perfectly reasonable to look at someone and say theyre from pakistan. (even though some peoples definition of pakistan might encompass several regions.)
We make flash ddecisions every day just like that, when we chose to cross the road or blow on food that might be too hot for eg.
In this way colour does significantly contribute to what people identify with nationality. to deny it is pointless and i can be almost certain that you dont walk down the road thinking thats a person thats a person and be devoid of awarenes of wether people are male or female or look like a threat or look in need of help. Billions of calculations a day have fine tuned our instant decision amkin g which is right most of the time.0
