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  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    edited November 2009
    Yeah I know, but I don't get it.

    If you wind up people it's usually to gain a benefit, so I'll wind up my mates and then they'll have a go back and I get some inspiration/motivation from it. But what is he trying to achieve here apart from making a complete fool out of himself?

    You know, we could do what we normally do on this forum and that's start talking about something completely different or if we really want him to stop posting his drivel then lets turn this into a power discussion AGAIN. :)

    Something like 'why am I able to produce more power when going up hills than on my turbo?'
    Shall I take Alex'x suggestion and put a phone book under my turbo so that I can generate the same power?' :lol:

    <sorry that's in response to my compatriot Red' above>
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    He's a WUM so why are people actually responding to him seriously?


    Think you are right. :cry:
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Just a little fun for a Tuesday afternoon. While I normally say - don;t you have anything better to do? - today I say - BRING IT ON.


    Too serious here sometimes.

    This is just poking fun for the sake of poking fun.
  • Slow1972
    Slow1972 Posts: 362
    dmclite wrote:
    He's a WUM so why are people actually responding to him seriously?


    Think you are right. :cry:

    I agree, because as anyone who has seen a triantelope in a road race will know (subject to the odd exception), they invariably act as bunch engines for the first 4 laps and then can't cope with the accelerations when the attacks start and get spat out the back...

    ... if they haven't brought themsleves and some of the field down on a corner before that

    Oh and the reason tri-bars arent used in bunch racing is from the safety issues in the event of a pile up, nothing to do with the advanced bike handling capabilities of a bloke in burds undies

    Don't tell them to stop trying though, a tow around the first half of a road race can make life that much more comfortable whilst you warm your legs up ;)
  • 20/20
    20/20 Posts: 26
    Tonight i look out of the window and i see the rain, ive checked my digital thermometer and barrometer and i'm smiling.

    These are perfect turbo conditions to open your lungs without the damaging effects of high pressure and arid air.

    Make a leap forward and try the following session

    15 mins warm up try and get to your lower level 2 or level 2 heart rate in this time (im ignoring power because even though every serious athlete uses this now many on here are not equipped or able to use them properly and heart rate is starting to replace power as the ideal training aid anyway.

    5 times 5 minutes at level just below your threshold with three minutes rest 10 minutes gradual warm down. Stretch really well and wear compression tights all evening.

    try and maintain the same cadence/ gear that allows your heart rate to rise to the required level gradually and then maintain in each set. This will improve your endurance without sacrificing power.
  • 20/20
    20/20 Posts: 26
    will3 wrote:
    Would we be better off using a compact with our tri bars?

    Compacts are not generally seen in serious triathlon fields for several reasons.

    1 we are able to turn bigger gears than most cyclists anyway
    2 They just look a bit ghey
  • Mothyman
    Mothyman Posts: 655
    ..part of 20/20's training regime might be to wind a few roadies up...then get wound up by the replies and then his heart pumps faster, he grits his teeth and his times improve.

    :wink:
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    20/20 wrote:
    Tonight i look out of the window and i see the rain, ive checked my digital thermometer and barrometer and i'm smiling.

    These are perfect turbo conditions to open your lungs without the damaging effects of high pressure and arid air.

    Make a leap forward and try the following session

    15 mins warm up try and get to your lower level 2 or level 2 heart rate in this time (im ignoring power because even though every serious athlete uses this now many on here are not equipped or able to use them properly and heart rate is starting to replace power as the ideal training aid anyway.

    5 times 5 minutes at level just below your threshold with three minutes rest 10 minutes gradual warm down. Stretch really well and wear compression tights all evening.

    try and maintain the same cadence/ gear that allows your heart rate to rise to the required level gradually and then maintain in each set. This will improve your endurance without sacrificing power.

    seriously fella - with that kind of pioneering insight, have you ever thought of becoming a coach..??
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    cougie wrote:
    Q.How do you find an Ironman bore at a party ?

    A.You dont - he'lll find you !

    Talk about hitting the nail on the head. So true, so true. I've been there more than a few times, and usually with the same 3 or 4 guys. I think my biggest error, when I see them socially, is asking "so what have you been up to?". Big, big mistake. Never ask anything remotely like that unless you want to be put to sleep with talk of 6:37 splits, swim stroke
    mechanics, transition time, cadence, power output, the word Ironman over and over.............................ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    NapoleonD wrote:
    No. Just, well, no.

    Triathlete20Steve.jpg

    Oh my. Is that you ND? MMMMMMMMMMM me like. Can we get a rear shot?
  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    20/20 wrote:
    Tonight i look out of the window and i see the rain, ive checked my digital thermometer and barrometer and i'm smiling.

    These are perfect turbo conditions to open your lungs without the damaging effects of high pressure and arid air.

    Make a leap forward and try the following session

    15 mins warm up try and get to your lower level 2 or level 2 heart rate in this time (im ignoring power because even though every serious athlete uses this now many on here are not equipped or able to use them properly and heart rate is starting to replace power as the ideal training aid anyway.

    5 times 5 minutes at level just below your threshold with three minutes rest 10 minutes gradual warm down. Stretch really well and wear compression tights all evening.

    try and maintain the same cadence/ gear that allows your heart rate to rise to the required level gradually and then maintain in each set. This will improve your endurance without sacrificing power.

    Shirley you mean just ABOVE threshold?

    Or just below 'cause you're still tired from the run and swim you did earlier?
  • jibberjim
    jibberjim Posts: 2,810
    20/20 wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    Would we be better off using a compact with our tri bars?

    Compacts are not generally seen in serious triathlon fields for several reasons.

    1 we are able to turn bigger gears than most cyclists anyway
    2 They just look a bit ghey

    I know I only watched a few triathlons this year, but they were generally pretty serious fields, the world championships were for sure, and you know what, I saw lots of compacts, and I saw lots of age groups being won on compacts.

    I guess you're right about the HR being more relevant than power though, at the World Champs as only 10% of the field had power meters on their bikes...



    (yes, I'm bored too)
    Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    20/20 wrote:
    I’m amazed at some of the rubbish written in this forum, it’s no wonder that triathlon where we need to excel in three sports (plus transition) has pushed the boundaries of training and sports development.

    Can I suggest that you guys look at some of the excellent Tri focused sights for an insight into modern proven training methods, particularly cadence.

    20/20

    Not being as narrow-minded as some on this forum, I did what you suggested and checked the Tri sites.
    Gosh -what an embarassment of riches and helpful tips.

    Among my favorites are:

    "How to lever your Speedos out of your butt-crack using only the tip of your aero helmet"

    "Transition : How we made getting dressed an Olympic sport"

    And "How to break 40 minutes for the "10" on only $10k"
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    LangerDan wrote:
    20/20 wrote:
    I’m amazed at some of the rubbish written in this forum, it’s no wonder that triathlon where we need to excel in three sports (plus transition) has pushed the boundaries of training and sports development.

    Can I suggest that you guys look at some of the excellent Tri focused sights for an insight into modern proven training methods, particularly cadence.

    20/20

    Not being as narrow-minded as some on this forum, I did what you suggested and checked the Tri sites.
    Gosh -what an embarassment of riches and helpful tips.

    Among my favorites are:

    "How to lever your Speedos out of your butt-crack using only the tip of your aero helmet"

    "Transition : How we made getting dressed an Olympic sport"

    And "How to break 40 minutes for the "10" on only $10k"

    :lol::lol::lol::lol: MADE MY DAY. THANX
  • a_n_t
    a_n_t Posts: 2,011
    20/20 wrote:
    ive checked my
    barrometer and i'm smiling.

    yeah, you dont want them in your way!

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    Manchester wheelers

    PB's
    10m 20:21 2014
    25m 53:18 20:13
    50m 1:57:12 2013
    100m Yeah right.
  • 20/20 wrote:
    Tonight i look out of the window and i see the rain, ive checked my digital thermometer and barrometer and i'm smiling.

    These are perfect turbo conditions to open your lungs without the damaging effects of high pressure and arid air.

    Make a leap forward and try the following session

    15 mins warm up try and get to your lower level 2 or level 2 heart rate in this time (im ignoring power because even though every serious athlete uses this now many on here are not equipped or able to use them properly and heart rate is starting to replace power as the ideal training aid anyway.

    5 times 5 minutes at level just below your threshold with three minutes rest 10 minutes gradual warm down. Stretch really well and wear compression tights all evening.

    try and maintain the same cadence/ gear that allows your heart rate to rise to the required level gradually and then maintain in each set. This will improve your endurance without sacrificing power.
    If only I had more time to have a bit of fun, but alas I'm all trolled out for the time being.

    In any case, it's been an amusing load of twaddle to read.

    Carry on.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    [In any case, it's been an amusing load of twaddle to read.

    Carry on.

    Check the next thread down. It's also good for a laugh!

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12664221
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Tri-Geeks spend a lot of time bragging about all sorts of activities and material things, e.g. Surfing and Televisions. They also tend to post utterly ridiculous videos of themselves on YouTube doing bizarre press-ups.

    Or is that just one in particular?
  • NapoleonD wrote:
    Tri-Geeks spend a lot of time bragging about all sorts of activities and material things, e.g. Surfing and Televisions. They also tend to post utterly ridiculous videos of themselves on YouTube doing bizarre press-ups.

    Or is that just one in particular?

    Damn it, I must be a try-athlete :(
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Thread of the year imo.
  • 20/20
    20/20 Posts: 26
    Mental outlook,

    Many of the threads on here highlight what i believe to be one of the biggest issues that prevent cyclists achieving their potential.

    Misplaced belief in so called coaches who spout the same very basic and out dated training guidance that is not properly tailored to goals, ability or individual circumstance. Because training for tri has to achieve so much more with less time we have pushed the training envelope and forged a path far from traditional cycling swimming or running thinking and we never never had the culture or history that hamstrings you all now to weigh us down.

    EG PMA

    Positive Mental Attitude. Never mind monkeys on shoulders telling you that you can’t do things. Tri philosophy releases the athlete from this negative start point and leaves him or her with an I can do anything start point. There are no doubts. Ms Wellington has demonstrated this very well and will soon demonstrate to ms Pendelton et al at BC that as well as they’ve done they’re only at the start of a long road.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    20/20 wrote:
    Mental outlook,

    Many of the threads on here highlight what i believe to be one of the biggest issues that prevent cyclists achieving their potential.

    Misplaced belief in so called coaches who spout the same very basic and out dated training guidance that is not properly tailored to goals, ability or individual circumstance. Because training for tri has to achieve so much more with less time we have pushed the training envelope and forged a path far from traditional cycling swimming or running thinking and we never never had the culture or history that hamstrings you all now to weigh us down.

    EG PMA

    Positive Mental Attitude. Never mind monkeys on shoulders telling you that you can’t do things. Tri philosophy releases the athlete from this negative start point and leaves him or her with an I can do anything start point. There are no doubts. Ms Wellington has demonstrated this very well and will soon demonstrate to ms Pendelton et al at BC that as well as they’ve done they’re only at the start of a long road.


    Ha ha ha! :lol::lol::lol: :roll:
    More problems but still living....
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    20/20 wrote:
    Positive Mental Attitude. Never mind monkeys on shoulders telling you that you can’t do things.

    fella - you need to listen carefully to the monkey on your own shoulder - he's telling you to stop talking bollox and get a life....
  • torico
    torico Posts: 67
    I love this guy , 20/20 you have made my week. keep it coming with your learned wisdom
  • torico
    torico Posts: 67
    by the way 20/20 I havent been to la santa to receive my advanced bike handling skills
    do you think its worth while or should I spend more time on my DH bike?? ( which is kind of like advanced bike skills??? or is it just riding down silly hills???- im not sure)
  • 20/20
    20/20 Posts: 26
    torico

    The course is excellent and in any case La Santa is an essential place to visit on your journey to Athletic fullfilment. Think of it as an athletes Mecca.

    You might find my suggestion that your DH bike doesnt provide enough specificity surprising coming from a multi sport athlete and training guru. But untill Zipp have certified a deepsection down hill carbon rim then you are unlikely to get as much benifit as from your regular P3 training bike.

    20/20
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Sod the Athletes Mecca - you forgot Danish hotties in Bikinis. Well mainly the bottoms only.
  • hopper1
    hopper1 Posts: 4,389
    softlad wrote:
    20/20 wrote:
    Positive Mental Attitude. Never mind monkeys on shoulders telling you that you can’t do things.

    fella - you need to listen carefully to the monkey on your own shoulder - he's telling you to stop talking bollox and get a life....

    Yes... Listen to the monkey... Stop spanking it! :shock:

    Duathletes are failed cyclists :shock:
    Triathletes are failed Duathletes :roll:

    Stick to one sport. Practice/train until you're good at that one...

    Stick to your own forum. If/when you're good enough, people will come to you for advice... :wink:
    Start with a budget, finish with a mortgage!
  • cougie wrote:
    Sod the Athletes Mecca - you forgot Danish hotties in Bikinis. Well mainly the bottoms only.

    :shock: :shock:

    I'm suddenly craving a "training" week in the sun.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • torico
    torico Posts: 67
    20/20 you seem to be suggesting that DH riding wont help my bike handling skills as its not specific enough to road cycling - this might be true but in my mind Dh riding is the essence of bike handling skills and is directly transferrable to any cycle sport - in fact training on any 2wheels ( even motocross) has a direct effect on your bike handling skills
    Incidnentally Hed used to do some deep section DH rims, maybe you should acquire some and come riding with me ?- afgter all its all about the kit isnt it???