For Turbo users - New Vid

Anonymous
Anonymous Posts: 79,667
edited March 2010 in Training, fitness and health
The new sufferfest vid came out today, had a go, it's very good!

(For the sake of laziness I've just copied this from what I put on another thread in road beginners!)

It has two lots of descending intervals (2 mins on, 2 mins recovery, 1.45 mins on, 1.45 mins off, down to 15 seconds on 15 off) hence, I assume, the 'Downward Spiral' title.

Startes off with some shaky helmet cam downhill MTB then the warm up is at a crit race with a couple of efforts. Then the intervals begin, the name sufferfest really lives up to it's name!

The first set of intervals has footage from Paris Roubaix and the second from Fleche Wallone and it's done really well. The recovery reverts to the crit. The bit in between the two sets is some mellow singletrack.

It's bang on an hour including warm up and cool down. Poifick!

The music is fine, I'm not a big rock fan but it's actually ok. I believe the next vid will feature some electronic beat music!

The on screen comments and encouragement work well although they started out a bit cheesy :o

http://www.thesufferfest.com/

PS for those interested in power, despite the fact there is a warm up, cool down and quite a bit of recovery time, my normalised power was within 1 watt of what my threshold is set as. No wonder I wanted to throw up during the intervals!!
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Oooh, here's the graph from the workout. The yellow dotted line is my curently rubbish Functional threshold power of 240. I actually think I need to reassess it...

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  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    Nap, I like your posts, always willing to share and always telling the truth (unlike others on here.) about a very very low ftp! :wink:

    I'm going to have a look at the video as I've just started the next phase of my training TURBO TIME.

    Anyone got any clever ways to mount an ipod touch on the bars?
  • sods_law
    sods_law Posts: 161
    Ive just finished the new Sufferfest vid, as Nap said, it's very good! Actually looking forward to going again!

    Being quite new to this trainer thing and interval training, I didnt push as hard as i feel i could, but as i havnt been on the bike in 3 weeks, maybe this is a good thing. Gonna wreck myself next time :D

    Can't wait for the next one so i have some variation though, missed out on the old Sufferfests :(
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Seems very hard for a November work out, but I guess it depends on what you're trying to achieve.
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  • sods_law
    sods_law Posts: 161
    You don't have to follow it, or just put the turbo on an easier setting and spin away...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    inseine wrote:
    Seems very hard for a November work out, but I guess it depends on what you're trying to achieve.

    Then do it in, ermmm, December.

    Or any other month of your preference!
  • bramstoker
    bramstoker Posts: 250
    Out of interest do these give the suggested resistance for tacx trainers or do you just pick "hardish" and go with it?
    A feather is kinky, a whole chicken is just perverse.
  • doyler78
    doyler78 Posts: 1,951
    chrisw12 wrote:
    Nap, I like your posts, always willing to share and always telling the truth (unlike others on here.) about a very very low ftp! :wink:

    I'm going to have a look at the video as I've just started the next phase of my training TURBO TIME.

    Anyone got any clever ways to mount an ipod touch on the bars?

    Just throw it in the basket on the front of the bike :lol::lol:

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    bramstoker wrote:
    Out of interest do these give the suggested resistance for tacx trainers or do you just pick "hardish" and go with it?

    It gives you a rate of perceived exertion to go off, but basically they are pretty much flat out intervals...
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Just downloaded the video and tried it out. Music is a bit dull TBH, but works well enough. I think I missed a lot of the on screen encouragement and chasing down as I was head down for the sprints and not really feeling like watching the vid!
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  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    Another good hour workout is the Carmichael Cycling For Fitness disc. A bit cheesy in places but lots of intervals and pace changing.
  • de_sisti
    de_sisti Posts: 1,283
    I'd be interested in the workout if it was available on dvd with rap, hip hop or drum and bass
    in the background instead of rock music. 8)
  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    that dvd looks very good! might just be tempted...
    "And the Lord said unto Cain, 'where is Abel thy brother?' And he said, 'I know not: I dropped him on the climb up to the motorway bridge'."
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    maander wrote:
    I'd be interested in the workout if it was available on dvd with rap, hip hop or drum and bass
    in the background instead of rock music. 8)

    In that case, play the video but turn the sound down and put your own music on!!
  • sagalout
    sagalout Posts: 338
    Just done this session tonight. Was bloody hard work, especially the 2nd session when you're out of the seat a lot - I just put my tacx to 8 to simulate the hill.

    Certainly makes the hour more interesting :)
  • monkeyjo
    monkeyjo Posts: 54
    Had a go with this last night. Only had time for 30mins so the single track bit was handy for cooling down. Might try it again tomorrow but start my warm up from the single track bit - seems handy that way if you've only got time to do half of it.

    It's the first bike training video I've used and I've not had my turbo long but I was glad that it was set out in such a simple way - it wasn't telling me to be in a certain gear etc. I just have a heart rate monitor and work out my effort from that...well that and how much sweat is gathering on the floor.

    Can anyone recommend any other videos that are set out in a similar way?
  • chrisw12
    chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    Did this for the second time, yesterday. Some things to note.

    The two big sets take approx 20 mins to complete and there's a 5 min rest interval in between them. Sound familiar? 8)

    I've been wanting to do a set of 2x20 on the turbo but the thought of doing them as straight iso-power clock watching with nobody shouting at me exercise had put me off.

    So I used this vid in the following way, I rode the 'work' periods at about X above my target watts and the 'rest' periods X below. Gave me a nice 20 mins where I managed to get above the average I wanted and got the bonus motivation of someone telling me about their Granny.

    (I've used X as you could use any figure above and below target watts but I'd imagine that the bigger the swing, the harder the effort (higher NP))
  • bramstoker
    bramstoker Posts: 250
    NapD makes a good salesman so i downloaded one and tried 1/2 hour tonight, still finding the right ballance on the "difficulty" i use, but it was enjoyable. Told "her indoors" i need a HRM to train properly :D so shes going to look for one, dont think i can go the whole way with a power meter but im hoping it will improve my performance (poor as it is ).

    Any more tips on getting the best from this Nap?
    A feather is kinky, a whole chicken is just perverse.
  • Scrumple
    Scrumple Posts: 2,665
    What sort if kit are you lot using?

    I'm thinking of the new Kraftwerk box set, in both German and English to be the complete fanboy, and a turbo with gubbins for xmas.

    No idea what I need to buy to get a sweat box whizz wheel, and tv add on,with power lines in yellow for afters.

    Its whizzy and I want some!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    bramstoker wrote:
    NapD makes a good salesman so i downloaded one and tried 1/2 hour tonight, still finding the right ballance on the "difficulty" i use, but it was enjoyable. Told "her indoors" i need a HRM to train properly :D so shes going to look for one, dont think i can go the whole way with a power meter but im hoping it will improve my performance (poor as it is ).

    Any more tips on getting the best from this Nap?

    First time just try and do it as hard as you possibly can. If/when you blow, just try and maintain a tempo pace. Then you will get an idea of how to pace it better...

    It was quite straight forward for me to pace it due to having the powermeter.

    Still wanted to puke though!
  • Sponging-Machine
    Sponging-Machine Posts: 103
    Is there anywhere you can get downloads like these for free?
  • sagalout
    sagalout Posts: 338
    Its only a few quid and a lot of time has gone into it - I've already had 3 hours use out of it so was more than happy to pay and cant wait for the next one :)
  • Sponging-Machine
    Sponging-Machine Posts: 103
    It's definitely not a lot of money. I was just keen to try before I buy. I did find some interactive programs at www.turbotraining.co.uk
  • Casbar
    Casbar Posts: 168
    Has anyone here watched it on a resolution higher than a laptop. On their website it says its best to view on an IPOD...whats it like on a say 32 inch TV?
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    I'm sure it would be quite low res on a 32" telly...
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    A group of us used it on a big LCD telly last week - the picture quatlity was more than acceptable. Anyway, if you can still see in colour and HD, you ain't trying hard enough.

    The older Sufferfests - which have been taken down due to copyright issues - were formatted for Ipod size screens. Even a 7" portable DVD player screen was too big. The soundtracks were far, far better, though :cry:
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  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    Sponging-Machine wrote:
    It's definitely not a lot of money. I was just keen to try before I buy. I did find some interactive programs at www.turbotraining.co.uk
    There is a 10-minute free/trial version on iTunes at the minute (search for "Sufferfest podcasts")
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  • themightyw
    themightyw Posts: 409
    Don't have a turbo trainer (yet!) but was wondering if these are suitable for using in a normal gym exercise bike?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    themightyw wrote:
    Don't have a turbo trainer (yet!) but was wondering if these are suitable for using in a normal gym exercise bike?

    Yes indeed...
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    themightyw wrote:
    Don't have a turbo trainer (yet!) but was wondering if these are suitable for using in a normal gym exercise bike?

    I tried doing high intensity stuff at the gym once, but without a fan to cool me it was pretty unpleasant (and I don't usually sweat that much).
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