Compact vs. Standard

giantsasquatch

Compact - You have won even before you have started.

hopper1

giantsasquatch wrote:

markos1963 wrote:

What most of us are saying is that you don't need a COMPACT do achieve that.

You would say that living in Norfolk.

There are no hills in Norfolk even by your own admission. Testing your theories, you can't even train on hills to find out the potential of a compact.

I live in Norfolk, too.#
Contrary to popular belief, there are hills around here. Nothing to challenge the Lakes, or Peak Districts, but still, enough to get your attention when using a Standard Double. :shock:
I have a Compact on two bikes and a Standard Double on one, I use the rear cassette to fine tune them for particular rides...

Barteos

simonaspinall wrote:

What's the difference between a 'compact' and standard chainset+cranks? Who are they aimed at?

Ta

332 replies and counting...

edhornby

giantsasquatch wrote:

Compact - You have won even before you have started.

brilliant example sasq - Rock racing have been all over the protour this year and a really strong showing in the tour de.... oh hang on.....


and with a compact you always look good!!! especially with that tasteful team strip

AllTheGear

That Rock Racing guy is in an awful lot of pain - maybe it's the high cadence? He should try a standard.

inseine

This was nonsense after about page three and yet you keep going to page 17! Where will it end? like I said then, please stop

will3

Just read all 17 pages and there's one thing I'm not sure about:
I have a tandem with a compact triple (28/40/50) and a 32/12 cassette. How can I increase the maximum distance I can travel in a day?

keef66

@ will3

Stick Bradley Wiggins on the back

Mister W

TBH I'd go for Victoria Pendleton on the front :P

softlad

will3 wrote:

Just read all 17 pages and there's one thing I'm not sure about:
I have a tandem with a compact triple (28/40/50) and a 32/12 cassette. How can I increase the maximum distance I can travel in a day?

put the tandem on the roof rack.....

a_n_t

will3 wrote:

How can I increase the maximum distance I can travel in a day?

Get Giantballsack on the back

FOAD

Guys, it is a sad day for the cycling world.

I get the feeling "The Master" has deserted the thread in favour of telling everyone the rear lights he got this morning are the best there is (dark where he lives already?).

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... c&start=20

300 plus posts on rear lights here we come.

I for one would love to know why he picked a light that took "standard" batteries instead of something more "compact".

hopper1

FOAD wrote:

Guys, it is a sad day for the cycling world.

I get the feeling "The Master" has deserted the thread in favour of telling everyone the rear lights he got this morning are the best there is (dark where he lives already?).

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... c&start=20

300 plus posts on rear lights here we come.

I for one would love to know why he picked a light that took "standard" batteries instead of something more "compact".

He's also imparted his advice on mudguard fitting, here...

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... c&start=60

giantsasquatch

will3 wrote:

Just read all 17 pages and there's one thing I'm not sure about:
I have a tandem with a compact triple (28/40/50) and a 32/12 cassette. How can I increase the maximum distance I can travel in a day?

Improve with a indoor trainer. Some trainers are specifically designed to cope with tandems, such as Kinetic. Ride your tandem. Ride your tandem.

giantsasquatch

The picture is of Tyler Hamilton. Who became famous doing well, and winning a stage with a compact. It was mainly to inspire you.

giantsasquatch

Carlos Sastre does use 38T on a compact but he also uses 52/36 and others. A 54T for time trialing.

edhornby

giantsasquatch wrote:

The picture is of Tyler Hamilton. Who became famous doing drugs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ju ... n-drug-ban

fixed that for you

hopper1

giantsasquatch wrote:

The picture is of Tyler Hamilton. Who became famous doing well, and winning a stage with a compact. It was mainly to inspire you.

Yeah, pop some Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) into your diet, too.... :twisted:

giantsasquatch

ride_whenever wrote:

I have a question giantsasquatch, what about singlespeeders?

They good training bike but mainly for high power with low cadence. Did you see that early 1900 bike sgl spd beating a recent pro bike? All thanks to the direct power. Incidentally i still have a old Bob Jackson fixed gear bike i used for TT.

giantsasquatch

ride_whenever and markos1963 get my vote everytime. get the award for most helpful and fair members on the forum.

hopper1

giantsasquatch wrote:

ride_whenever and markos1963 get my vote everytime. get the award for most helpful and fair members on the forum.

Maybe they deserve to be mentioned in an appropriate thread, then. Not lost in amongst this debate...

giantsasquatch

Don't be so naive, he not alone, though i hate to admit it ,alot at the top are doing something to compete at that level.

hopper1

giantsasquatch wrote:

Don't be so naive, he not alone, though i hate to admit it ,alot at the top are doing something to compete at that level.

Oh, so that makes it ok, does it?

He doped, regardless of what it was, or who else does it... :evil: :evil:

T1T!

giantsasquatch

I put it another way on compacts. Chew on this.

Pedalling a smaller ring ie. compact, means you are doing more pedal revolutions than a bigger ring ie. standard. You have to pedal more revolutions to go the equal distance or lots to do a higher cadence.

That means, you are working out your cardiovascular and aerobic system more effectively, Which is a big plus to become a better cyclist.

will3

fantastic, I'll fit a tripple with a 28 ring tommorrow and ride only on that.

FOAD

giantsasquatch wrote:

I put it another way on compacts. Chew on this.

Pedalling a smaller ring ie. compact, means you are doing more pedal revolutions than a bigger ring ie. standard. You have to pedal more revolutions to go the equa\l distance or lots to do a higher cadence.

That means, you are working out your cardiovascular and aerobic system more effectively,

Your bad English I assume? Yep your cardio and aerobic system will defo get to work more the more you spin, but whether that is effective varies from individual to individual surely.

giantsasquatch

will3 wrote:

fantastic, I'll fit a tripple with a 28 ring tommorrow and ride only on that.

Of course you being sarcastic but too small ring means you can't pedal fast enough even on the flat, as it too easy of course. And the body can't cope with that high a cadence. You end up spinning out.

AllTheGear

But a 50/34 is right for everybody in all conditions?

markos1963

I'm not getting involved in this any more in case I lose my fairness award Oh bugger that means I have!

thejesusandsedischain

fook me is this still going on compact v standard there is only one way to sort this out
FIGHT