Bellis in hospital

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  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe ... 961819.stm
    The Reciprocal Health Agreement between the Isle of Man and the United Kingdom comes to an end from 1 April 2010.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    That's awful- the Isle of Man is far to small to provide specialized medicine/surgery and rehab.
  • dulldave
    dulldave Posts: 949
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Dulldave: UK mainland and Isle of Man have seperate healthcare systems. Big row going on at the moment. There used to be a reciprocal healthcare agreement but this has, I believe, now ended.

    Yes I know. But given The UK is going to claim him whenever he wins anything, you'd think they might not be quite so quick to abandon him when he needs their help.
    Scottish and British...and a bit French
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    +1
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    Tusher wrote:
    That's awful- the Isle of Man is far to small to provide specialized medicine/surgery and rehab.

    Isle of man patients can be referred to UK hospitals for specialist treatment (for which the isle of man is billed) and will still get free A&E cover in the UK. The only change is they will now require travel insurance when visiting the UK mainland (and we will need travel insurance when visiting the isle of man)
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/3319/ ... Nation.com)
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Thanks for the link, Iain. I wish him all the best in his recovery.

    a disconnected feeding tube (shudder)
  • iain_j
    iain_j Posts: 1,941
    Good grief, we've known he's been in a serious condition but once you start to get the details... great news that he's recovering well.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    It sounds like he's making excellent progress from a very serious head injury. I wish him well in his recovery.
  • wicked
    wicked Posts: 844
    Yes thanks for that link had somehow missed that. Thank god he is making a great recovery it's great that he will get a normal life back but to see him hopefully back racing is fantastic. Classy rider. 46 kilo's! :shock:
    It’s the most beautiful sport in the world but it’s governed by ***ts who have turned it into a crock of ****.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,811
    This reminds me of the case of Saul Raisin, so much promise, such a bad accident, and although he had to retire from professional racing, he's now a role model in a different way
  • NervexProf
    NervexProf Posts: 4,202
    Good news, and a remarkable testament to the medical care that Jonny has received, along with the terrific support from his 'team' and family.

    My hope is that Jonny is soon back to doing what he does best.
    Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom
  • sonny73
    sonny73 Posts: 2,203
    That is great news, thanks for posting that iainf72; I really hope he gets back to riding and training soon, it must be such a wrench for him, but I guess he is simply happy to have survived that terrible situation.
  • nickwill
    nickwill Posts: 2,735
    Credit to Riis, and the team sponsors for being totally supportive. It would appear to be a total contrast to the way Cofidis treated Armstrong.
    I look forward to seeing him back on a bike.
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  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Uh-oh...
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  • nickwill
    nickwill Posts: 2,735
    Nickwill wrote:
    Credit to Riis, and the team sponsors for being totally supportive. It would appear to be a total contrast to the way Cofidis treated Armstrong.
    I look forward to seeing him back on a bike.

    Sorry I should have known better than to mention the A word! :oops:
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  • nick hanson
    nick hanson Posts: 1,655
    Nickwill wrote:
    Credit to Riis, and the team sponsors for being totally supportive. It would appear to be a total contrast to the way Cofidis treated Armstrong.
    I look forward to seeing him back on a bike.
    Yes,full credit to Riis & the team for looking after his welfare as far as possible,especially as they are under pressure to find a new sponsor.
    Re the Cofidis/Lance Armstrong situation,I had my opinions changed after reading the latest John Wilcockson book on LA.
    It seems that the Cofidis rep came over with a top bottle of wine as a goodwill gesture,& Paul Sherwen acted as translator.
    Reading the book,it seems that LA's manager called for a meeting with them,& instigated the renegotiation of his contract,wheras the Cofidis rep was certain that the owner of Cofidis was not the sort of guy who would instigate such action when a person was in such a dire medical shape.
    Seems LA's manager is of the same mould as LA,in that it's me against the world :roll:
    Sorry,certainly not turning this into an LA thread,just it opened my eyes when i read the book
    so many cols,so little time!
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    wicked wrote:
    Classy rider. 46 kilo's! :shock:


    Just read about Bellis going home - and it was mentioned how his weight dropped from 70kg to 46 in just 3 weeks.

    Is this even possible!?

    Some quick math tell me that he lost 24KG in 21 days!? Works out to about 2.5 POUNDS a DAY! That's a deficit of 8750 calories...

    And all while being in a coma.

    I can only assume that most of that is muscle loss from atrophy - but it's rare to see it happen so quickly.

    Hope he manages to make it back as a rider one day. He should be one hell of a climber if he does!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Pokerface wrote:

    Just read about Bellis going home - and it was mentioned how his weight dropped from 70kg to 46 in just 3 weeks.

    Is this even possible!?

    Some quick math tell me that he lost 24KG in 21 days!? Works out to about 2.5 POUNDS a DAY! That's a deficit of 8750 calories...

    And all while being in a coma.

    I can only assume that most of that is muscle loss from atrophy - but it's rare to see it happen so quickly.

    Hope he manages to make it back as a rider one day. He should be one hell of a climber if he does!

    If you read the CW article then the weight loss was clearly due to the peritonitis (a type of bowel infection) that he picked up.

    I wish him well with his ongoing recovery.
  • fungus_the_muffin_man
    fungus_the_muffin_man Posts: 1,608
    Pokerface wrote:
    wicked wrote:
    Classy rider. 46 kilo's! :shock:


    Just read about Bellis going home - and it was mentioned how his weight dropped from 70kg to 46 in just 3 weeks.

    Is this even possible!?

    Some quick math tell me that he lost 24KG in 21 days!? Works out to about 2.5 POUNDS a DAY! That's a deficit of 8750 calories...

    And all while being in a coma.

    I can only assume that most of that is muscle loss from atrophy - but it's rare to see it happen so quickly.

    Hope he manages to make it back as a rider one day. He should be one hell of a climber if he does!

    I'm an intensive care nurse and yes it is possible for the body to lose huge amounts of weight very quickly. Especially when your comatose and ventilated.
    Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
    I'm an intensive care nurse and yes it is possible for the body to lose huge amounts of weight very quickly. Especially when your comatose and ventilated.

    Not doubting you at all. Can you explain how or where the loss comes from? Just curious....
  • fungus_the_muffin_man
    fungus_the_muffin_man Posts: 1,608
    Pokerface wrote:
    Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
    I'm an intensive care nurse and yes it is possible for the body to lose huge amounts of weight very quickly. Especially when your comatose and ventilated.

    Not doubting you at all. Can you explain how or where the loss comes from? Just curious....

    there's many ways it can happen. Your right about the muscle atrophy. You'd be suprised how quickly that happens. After only a few days people can have a considerable problem. Any infection and the body's on reaction to the huge trauma he had experienced would have had a great effect on increasing his metabolic rate. Thereby increasing his calorific burn putting him in deficit quickly. You also have the fact that we can draw fluid out of the body if need too and also have insensible loss to account for due to perspiration etc.... all affected by potential infections , rise in temperature and brain injury.

    Even with a feeding regime via a tube we can only safely put so many calories into a person. The dieticians who would have seen to his needs on a daily basis would have made him a specific regime based off what meds he was having, the kinds of treatments - being vented for example- as they would all change the amount of calories he would need.
    I'm no neuro specialist, my unit is a general icu. So I can only presume that due to the his injury they gave him a PEG which is a tube pierced through the skin into the stomach to feed him rather than using an nasogastric tube. This has somehow come lose and caused the peritonitis. I've never ever heard of a PEG coming lose though i'm sure it can happen :?
    Bianchi. There are no alternatives only compromises!
    I RIDE A KONA CADABRA -would you like to come and have a play with my magic link?
  • GroupOfOne MkII
    GroupOfOne MkII Posts: 1,289
    Nice piece on the BBC North West news on Bellis this lunchtime, which I'd imagine you should be able to watch via the website or iPlayer later.

    Only shame was as Gordon Burns in the studio introduced the package and talked about Bellis' accident they had a whacking great picture of.......Mark Cavendish in the Green Jersey doing his phone celebration from last year's TdF.

    FFS, I know they're both from the Isle of Man, but what did someone say to the researcher, "Oh we're doing a feature on some cyclist from the Isle of Man, find us a picture luv". :roll:
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,473
    Great news, Johnny Bellis is set to return to racing at the UK Nationals;

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bellis- ... -nationals

    That's made my morning.
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Johnny can be seen out and about on his bike most days around the Island. He is still wearing his distinctive Saxo Bank kit so his sponsors are getting plenty of exposure.

    Here's looking forward to an early return to the pro peleton and one of the best fairytale endings ever!
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • sonny73
    sonny73 Posts: 2,203
    andyp wrote:
    Great news, Johnny Bellis is set to return to racing at the UK Nationals;

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bellis- ... -nationals

    That's made my morning.
    That is great news.
  • SpaceJunk
    SpaceJunk Posts: 1,157
    Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:
    Pokerface wrote:
    wicked wrote:
    Classy rider. 46 kilo's! :shock:


    Just read about Bellis going home - and it was mentioned how his weight dropped from 70kg to 46 in just 3 weeks.

    Is this even possible!?

    Some quick math tell me that he lost 24KG in 21 days!? Works out to about 2.5 POUNDS a DAY! That's a deficit of 8750 calories...

    And all while being in a coma.

    I can only assume that most of that is muscle loss from atrophy - but it's rare to see it happen so quickly.

    Hope he manages to make it back as a rider one day. He should be one hell of a climber if he does!

    I'm an intensive care nurse and yes it is possible for the body to lose huge amounts of weight very quickly. Especially when your comatose and ventilated.

    That's an amazing stat if true.

    In 1993 I was diagnosed with a Dilated Cardiomyopathy. I was suffering from liver, heart and lung failure.

    At the time I went from 87 to 49 kgs in 6 weeks, and my cardiologist said that was basically unheard of.
  • Bronzie
    Bronzie Posts: 4,927
    Great to hear that news - the pictures of him in the recent ProCycling issue in hospital were pretty shocking - the guy just looked like a shell.............and that was when he was already part way along the road to recovery.

    Hope he can make a full comeback to racing at the top level.
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  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Lovely news- hope he goes well when he does return. All credit again to Riis and his team, I'm sure they'll let him return at his own pace.
  • Stone Glider
    Stone Glider Posts: 1,227
    Pro cycling can be a very bleak place, at times. This is not one of them. Good for him :D
    The older I get the faster I was

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