gisburn - new trails - anyone tried them?

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  • I'll not moan, i'm just chuffed to little mintballs that we finally have somewhere decent to ride at last :D
    Caz xxxx
  • It does look bloody brilliant :D

    Can't WAIT to hit those berms! theres looooaaaads of em!

    Also looks like theres quite a lot of places you can get some air which I always like :)
  • My sentiments exactly...Roll on tomorrow i say :D
    Caz xxxx
  • Damn you and your ability to get to the trails :(
    Car should have been fixed on friday so was planning on riding today and tomorrow :(
  • Good job Gisburn isn't far from my house, a Daewoo matiz with 2 bikes on a rack on the back doesn't go fast, 25 mph over waddington fell.
    It's shocking going to Wales, 60 mph fully loaded and foot flat on the floor :oops:
    Caz xxx
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    bigbenj_08 wrote:
    Damn you and your ability to get to the trails :(
    Car should have been fixed on friday so was planning on riding today and tomorrow :(

    Now you know how I feel all the time :lol:

    Have a good time Caz, this DH track sound like a laugh, and the trails look great, can't wait to give them a try, quite when that will be, I don't know :roll: .
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • I can only get to trails if the Hubby drives ,i've not worked out how to attatch a mountain bike to a Yamaha Diversion 600 :lol:
    Caz xxx
  • Whytepeak
    Whytepeak Posts: 2,616
    I can only get to trails if the Hubby drives ,i've not worked out how to attatch a mountain bike to a Yamaha Diversion 600 :lol:
    Caz xxx

    Ask Northwind :lol:
    Now that we are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak and not to please ourselves. ROMANS 15:1
  • dave_hill
    dave_hill Posts: 3,877
    ravey1981 wrote:
    Why is it that people find they need to moan about everything.... Gisburn is a couple of miles from my house and I ride there in all weathers...if its wet then guess what guys...its gonna get muddy and a bit slippy.....

    We're all entitled to our opinions. And it is my opinion that even ridden "correctly" (whatever that may mean" that certain sections of the Gully are a potential hazard for someone. And this is why it's getting cut up - people who don't have your preturnatural riding skills are braking into the area and causing erosion which could easily be remedied by adding a hardcore surface.
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  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    For those without adequate skills there is a "chicken run" option to the right of the gully....

    Or perhaps give up mountain biking and take up knitting.... mind those needles though, there is a possibility that if you don't use them right you could hurt yourself, better cover them in bubble wrap first eh?

    Oh hang on I've just thought of something....maybe they could tarmac the gully!! :roll:
  • stumpyjon
    stumpyjon Posts: 4,069
    Well I agree with Dave_Hill and I'm one of the trail builders so I've got some stake in this. I like my blacks to be technically hard to ride, or possibly unforgiving if you get something wrong (Lee Quarry springs to mind). However I feel Hully Gully is more about luck than skill when riding it in the wet.

    Benj, can't believe you've aonly just heard about Gisburn, been open for months now. Loads more planned. We're building some woodwork stuff at the moment, should be a challenge. The route is reasonably well signposted and I believe the man running the Fuzzy Duck tea wagon is handing out copies of (my) map.

    Link to my map here.


    If anyone else wants to lend a hand building stuff (you'd be more than welcome) PM me and I'll send you some details etc. If you do turn up and build you also geta chance to directly influence what is built.
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  • I wouldn't mind lending a hand building some stuff :)

    Sounds like good fun, and I could do with meeting a few MTB nuts to take the pressure off the GF :lol:

    Need to get my blody forks serviced before I do anything though :(
    This is my 3rd "bad luck" thing to happen now, so it can only bee good from now on!!
  • Well ! all i can say about Gisburn is WOW :shock: ....it's cracking, technical rocky stuff, boardwalks and more !
    Took me and the Hubby about 3 and a half hours to get round as I walked some of it and we are both VERY unfit !
    Can't wait to go back again when i'm fitter and braver.
    Oh and we didn't do Hully Gully, we went past it to go down the old route down to the water crossings as we know we'd not manage Hully Gully, so it's not us that have messed it up :lol:
    Caz xxxx
  • ravey1981 wrote:

    Or perhaps give up mountain biking and take up knitting.... mind those needles though, there is a possibility that if you don't use them right you could hurt yourself, better cover them in bubble wrap first eh?

    Oh hang on I've just thought of something....maybe they could tarmac the gully!! :roll:

    no offence mate, but don't be such an arse, its not big or clever. not everyone is a super xxxtreme biker like you. Of course I mean this in the nicest of ways :wink:
  • I have to agree with Jon and some of the other posters regarding the gully. Personally I think it should be gravelled in parts. Don't get me wrong, I like things gnarly and rough as you like and enjoy technical routes such as Helvelyn and Walna Scar in the Lakes, but I think a trail centre should be rideable in all weather without slipping and sliding around in a few inches of mud. Part of the attraction of trail centres for me is that they offer somewhere to ride when the rest of the country is water logged.

    Ravey1981, as someone who states that they live in "Gisburn Forest" you should know all too well how wet the winters get. I lived in Tosside most of my life and I know that the gully will be a mess by next spring if we get another typically wet winter.
  • pdid
    pdid Posts: 1,065
    Was up there last Friday and have to agree with dave_hill with regard to the gulley. It`s becoming dangerous to ride, particularly the bottom of the dip which is now a rutted muddy mess.

    It`s a real shame because, having ridden it when it was in tip top condition, I know how well it rides and what an excellent bit of trailbuilding it is.
  • I can see both sides here.

    The clay mud is grippier than it looks, there may be a bit of squirm but it does hold you on line fairly well.
    Having said that, I've probably ridden the gully 50 or 60 times now, so pretty much can do it with my eyes shut (not literally).

    However, if you've never ridden down it before, I can see why people may get nervous on it. The worst thing you can do when grip is low is grab a handful of brake though.

    When it's dry, it's unbelievably quick, but it hasn't been fully dry for a couple of months now so has got very chopped up.
    The other tracks that were gravelled from new have bedded in really well now, but I just think the gully would be even more sketchy with a gravel surface.
  • Yes, I agree there is still quite a lot of grip there and maybe gravel woudn't be the best surface. I rode it on Wednesday night and stayed on the track most of the way down. The tops of the big berms seem fine, it's just the bits in between. My biggest problem was seeing where I was going. My mates Hope V4's seem to cast a big shadow over me and my old Halide light.

    The gully was awesome a few months ago when it was bone dry. Thought it was great the way the crests towards the end launched you off the ground :D
  • So does anyone nightride at gisburn then?

    I need to get more riding in (now that I have my car back, fixed my forks and know theres a great trail less than an hour away)!
  • bigbenj_08 - night riding


    I do, see one of my vids below. Let me know if you fancy meeting up there, Thursdays are always better for me though.

    I've been up again today, did the Gully twice and didn't fall off or even slide once!
    The weather was particularly abysmal, don't think I've seen it that wet up there ever before!.
    It was still a blast though.
  • Mancunianfightingcat
    Sounds good!

    I've literally just ordered a light from Dealextreme so I dunno when that'll arrive, but if your're out at weekends i'd be more than happy to join up - and then some nightriding as soon as the light appears!

    Was really hoping to get there this weekend, but I didn't get the car till saturday and I've still gotta figure out how to get the bike inside it :D
  • I only get every 3rd weekend off, but every Thursday, so it might be a while before I'm up there on a weekend again, but I'll keep you posted.

    I'll even go on my Marin so you don't feel under suspended :wink:
  • Ha!

    but would you keep up on the marin? :P
  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    Ok maybe i was being too cocky, sorry, and im by no means an exxxxxxtreme rider....as you put it....

    My point is thought that you have to ride to the conditions and you're skill level, it is obvious that you cant ride every section of trail flat out in all conditions...

    Putting gravel down wont do much good cos of the gradient and camber of the corners...it will just get brushed off and you're back as it is now...

    If you make every single section of trail a gravel covered smooth carpet ride then wheres the fun/challenge in that? When it is drier the gully is amazingly grippy....do you really want to lose that? Cos putting gravel on it will make it like riding on marbles...
  • bigbenj_08 wrote:
    Ha!

    but would you keep up on the marin? :P

    With my eyes shut mate!
    :wink:
  • Hahaha :lol:

    My issue is climbing... 9 gears, dodgy knee, 35lb bike and weighing 16st doesn't help.... helps on the decents though :D
  • stumpyjon
    stumpyjon Posts: 4,069
    Ah but can you ride it across this?

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    This is the new bit we're working on. Due to drop another tree onto this end to extend it.

    It's higher than it looks, about 4ft, and is slightly bouncy :shock:
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  • I spotted that yesterday afternoon Stumpy. Looks good, which way will it be ridden, I assume from the wide end to the narrow end? I also spotted a bit of clearing just off the old muddy xc route, what's the plan there then?

    I'm now feeling a tad guilty that I was out riding round GF whilst others were busy building! Oops. :oops:
  • stumpyjon
    stumpyjon Posts: 4,069
    Yep wide to narrow, the photo was taken from the wide end. However you will already have had to traverse another tree (currently still upright) to get to. We're building some singletrack to bypass the fireroad from the old singletrack up towards Hesbert Hall. the idea is that there will be lots of wooden bits (hence the tree) linked up with more of our signature armoured trail. Should be some more skinnies, maybe some additional boardwalk, thinking some logs to bunny hop, some step ups (and downs) and anything else wooden we can think of (maybe a see-saw). All linked (and bypassed by the singletrack).

    That all said it's deliberately not linked to anything at the moment and will probably take a few months to complete and be rideable.

    Oh and as for the guilt, well you deserve it, only way for it to go away is come and work off your sins with a shovel :wink: . Glad you're enjoying it though.
    It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

    I've bought a new bike....ouch - result
    Can I buy a new bike?...No - no result
  • I was on martin's email list for dig days, but I've changed jobs and hence email addresses recently. Please pm me or post on here when the next digs are. If I'm not working I'd love to help, it'll give me some ideas for when my house/field purchase goes through :lol: