Home made energy drink?

alp777

I am going to be experimenting on making my own energry drink.

It's going to consist of Maltodextrin and Fructose with a ratio of 2:1.

So i am going to put 1kg of multidextrin and 0.5kg of Fructose in a large container and simply shake the container to mix the ingredients together.

Is it is simple as that? How do i know that when i fill a 750ml bottle i have a 2:1 ratio of maltodextrin/fructose?

Stupid question?

LittleB0b

or keep them seperate and add 2 teaspoons of X to 1teaspoon of of Y

GiantMike

Let us know how well it works (the drink, not the mixing technique)....

jibberjim

Yes it's pretty much just putting them in a container and mixing. Try and make sure you have some space in the container to aid mixind.

Fructose and Malto mix pretty easily, the grains are very difference sizes and you can easily see if they end up mixed or not.

You won't know (other than by analysing it) that the ratio is what you want unless you mix it exactly to the proportion. But you'll be very close and it'll be a lot easier to just mix it all up.

alp777

jibberjim wrote:

Yes it's pretty much just putting them in a container and mixing. Try and make sure you have some space in the container to aid mixind.

Fructose and Malto mix pretty easily, the grains are very difference sizes and you can easily see if they end up mixed or not.

You won't know (other than by analysing it) that the ratio is what you want unless you mix it exactly to the proportion. But you'll be very close and it'll be a lot easier to just mix it all up.

Thanks for the response jibberjim, it was your website that inspired me to make my own.....cheers!

GiantMike

Wow, what an eye-opener. I've tended to shy away from energy drinks due to the cost but I guess I'll be getting fructosed-up from now on.

Thanks for the top tips.

Bhima

Poor man's energy drink

What you need

- Lemons
- Honey
- Water
- Salt

Directions

- Boil water
- Squeeze the juice from the lemons.
- Mix the two together and add the honey. Stir until the honey has dissolved.
- Add a pinch of salt.
- Wait until cool before filling up bottles or drink for immediate recovery after a ride.

This one is good for recovery, especially in winter, because the vitamin C boosts your weak immune system after a ride and the honey gets absorbed really quickly and replaces glycogen. 20% of honey is water, the rest glucose & fructose, so about 150-200g of honey should be enough. You should judge the balance of honey & lemons by smell - the drink shoudln't have an overwhelming smell of either, it should be a good balance. That's when you know it'll taste amazing. The reason you use boiling water is because it's almost impossible to get honey to dissolve in cool water.

freehub

What do you add for the protein that is important for recovery?

Bhima

Whey protein if you want.

Although I usually have this drink and a seperate protein/yoghurt milkshake half an hour later because whey protein ruins the flavour.

Fruit salad is incredible for recovery if you use a lot of natural yoghurt. I buy the stuff in bulk in 10kg tubs so I sometimes have about 3kg of fruit, 3kg of yoghurt and 200g of honey in a big BIG bowl as soon as I get in.

Yum yum...

LittleB0b

Bhima wrote:

Whey protein if you want.

3kg of fruit, 3kg of yoghurt and 200g of honey in a big BIG bowl as soon as I get in.

Yum yum...

3kg - so, like 3 litres of yogurt... i think i may be speechless

Bhima

Yeah, I can't get enough of the stuff. At 0.1% fat and 5% protein, why not binge out?

mikeq

Bhima wrote:

Yeah, I can't get enough of the stuff. At 0.1% fat and 5% protein, why not binge out?

Wow - do you do everything at extremes?

Bhima

Of course.

Back to the original topic, sillyness aside, i've found that Honey + Fruit (glucose & fructose + more fructose) is more effective than Maltodextrin. Strawberry & Grape smoothie with brown sugar seems to do the trick for me when riding too. I've often tried the different energy drink powders out there, including pure Maltodextrin, and they just aren't the same. I know others who actually get physically sick from them too. :? Maybe it's the extras you get with fruit (Electrolytes, tiny fragments of fruit fibres, etc) which give me an extra feeling of fullness.

Whatever the reason, i'd recommend everyone try fruit-based drinks at least once. It's lovely stuff. 8)

owenlars

Thats 6.2kg of food at one sitting or in English nearly a stone. :shock:

Bhima

Maybe my comment was mis-leading. :? I'll have that ammount of food over about 4 hours, but start on it as soon as I get in. It's a lot of food, but a lot of that is water.

SBezza

Any recovery drink needs protein in it, otherwise it is a pure energy drink. A recovery drink contains both carbs and protein, carbs on their own will not help with any muscle recovery, other than glycogen replenishment. Milk based protein is a slow release protein, for best recovery you need something like whey or soy protein in your system within 20 minutes or so.

I make a energy drink similar to bhima, though I use a tablespoon of honey, and use 450ml of pure apple juice per 750ml, and don't boil the water, just chuck it in a blender, and the honey and salt gets mixed up all OK.

Must admit I think the quanity of fruit and yogurt is a bit of a joke, I doubt most people could eat that amount in 24 hours, let alone 4 hours. You must spend as much time on the loo as you do on your bike

riderjam

Coconut water is supposed to be really good

salsarider79

I've used blackberries as a base before. Add a good slug of apple juice, then banana's, apples, strawberries even pears. Stick it all in the blender. Hey presto, tasty healthy riding juice. Lasts about three days.
Coming home from a ride I like to eat cereal with lots of milk. I can't be bothered to spend money on cycle specfic protein shakes, energy bars and what not (and I get into trouble).

salsarider79

I've used blackberries as a base before. Add a good slug of apple juice, then banana's, apples, strawberries even pears. Stick it all in the blender. Hey presto, tasty healthy riding juice. Lasts about three days.
Coming home from a ride I like to eat cereal with lots of milk. I can't be bothered to spend money on cycle specfic protein shakes, energy bars and what not (and I get into trouble).

salsarider79

I've used blackberries as a base before. Add a good slug of apple juice, then banana's, apples, strawberries even pears. Stick it all in the blender. Hey presto, tasty healthy riding juice. Lasts about three days.
Coming home from a ride I like to eat cereal with lots of milk. I can't be bothered to spend money on cycle specfic protein shakes, energy bars and what not (and I get into trouble).

mikeq

I've used this stuff in the past

http://www.numarkpharmacists.com/p/numa ... amin-c/172

You can get it in boots, branded as a boots product.

£1.50 for ½kg of the stuff

jibberjim

Bhima wrote:

Maybe my comment was mis-leading. :? I'll have that ammount of food over about 4 hours, but start on it as soon as I get in. It's a lot of food, but a lot of that is water.

Even over 4 hours, that would be 3000 kcal's of Yogurt (assuming it's low fat, much more if not) 600 kcals of honey, and 2-3000 kcals of fruit (depending on the fruit of course, but as it's you, it's presumably bananas, so at the top end.)

But even taking the lower end options, you're eating well over 5000 calories in the 4 hours. Given that from other threads we know you're currently only riding for two hours a day, which will burn nothing like 5000 calories you must be either gaining weight at quite alarming rates, or doing some other seriously heavy duty activities.

Perhaps the other activity is walking to the shops and back every day to buy these huge volumes of food?

freehub

If I had a blender I might have tried to blend a load of fruit up and add some other things to make it an energy drink, but me thinks it'd clog the bottle up.

The Cookie Monster

most lunch times ill eat 2xchicken tikka slices, 1 litre of chocolate milkshake, and 6 sausage rolls, that adds up to 480% of my days RDA fat, and i havnt put on a kilogram in over a year, and im only cycling for an hour a day! whether thats down to high proton leak in my mitochondria or some other genetic difference, or just the fact im 18 i dont know. he may only ride for 2 hours, but thats leaves a full 22 hours for his muscles to be burning the rest, as they still "burn" a high quantity of energy whilst not in use. and also, as far as i know, youre body doesnt build up massive stores of sugar like it does fat, so not all 5000 calories of sugar will be stored/used by the body. hello diabetes though :?

Bhima

jibberjim wrote:

Given that from other threads we know you're currently only riding for two hours a day, which will burn nothing like 5000 calories you must be either gaining weight at quite alarming rates, or doing some other seriously heavy duty activities.

No no no no no... I don't do this EVERY day... Gosh, people can get so carried away on this forum. :roll: It's just an extreme example of what I have done in the past after epic rides. I usually do 5 hour rides, the 2 hour rides i'm doing have only been for a couple weeks, please read my threads!

jibberjim

The Cookie Monster wrote:

as far as i know, youre body doesnt build up massive stores of sugar like it does fat, so not all 5000 calories of sugar will be stored/used by the body. hello diabetes though :?

I'm afraid the 5000 calories of sugar will end up as fat if not used, the body is quite capable of changing whatever the source of calories is into fat stores. And your body doesn't burn a whole lot of calories when it's not being used I'm afraid.

mikeq

Bhima wrote:

please read my threads!

Can you not just give us a quick summary, too much hassle to read all you threads

chriskempton

Bhima wrote:

Fruit salad is incredible for recovery if you use a lot of natural yoghurt. I buy the stuff in bulk in 10kg tubs so I sometimes have about 3kg of fruit, 3kg of yoghurt and 200g of honey in a big BIG bowl as soon as I get in.

3kg of fruit equals about 24 average sized bananas or equivalent in whatever fruit you're talking about. You're stretching it a bit here aren't you?

Also, where do you buy 10kg tubs of natural yoghurt, and what fridge do you own that's big enough to hold them? Or do you stop off at Costco on your way home?

mikeq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RKTSwAVaoU

fungus_the_muffin_man

For those who make their own drinks with liquidised fresh fruit do you strain it off first? I'm just wondering if you have a problem with the pulp/seeds blocking up your bottle nozzle?

Bhima

chriskempton wrote:

3kg of fruit equals about 24 average sized bananas or equivalent in whatever fruit you're talking about. You're stretching it a bit here aren't you?

At the fruit shop that I work at, 3kg is what i'm allowed at super-discount price per day, so it's accurate.

Where did I say I eat bananas after a ride though? It's Peaches, Grapes and strawberries which are mainly water to be honest.