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mask of sanity wrote:Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about fat burning after exercise. Does that mean that for good fat burning you should do either high or low intensity exercise?
High intensity apparently, we'll see...
Low intensity apparently targets carbs in the system, high intensity increases metabolic rate so you are burning fat all day. Apparently.
As I said, we'll see...0 -
Looks like you're right:
http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_g ... _loss.html
Not sure how credible the source is though...
Maybe low intensity has a better fat burning ratio but because energy used is so much lower it's still a lot less than high intensity.
Be interesting to hear what results you find from doing this technique.0 -
The way to burn fat is to eat less calories than you burn. Simple.
It's mathematically possible that a high-intensity, 30-minute turbo workout will burn the same calories as a steady 2-hour ride. It's up to you to decide which of the two methods is the most "effective" way of burning the calories. I'm unsure about the "efficiency" of each method, that's another story. At the end of the day, it's all about how many calories you're burning. It doesn't matter how you burn them...0 -
Apparently you may well be wrong...
High intensity exercise increases metabolic rate promoting burning of fat throughout the day. Long steady efforts burn carbs in the system before touching any fat.0 -
So riding at high intensity is a good way to burn fat? And I presume the fat burn would happen all around the body? Most of my rides are high intensity when I'm on my own but I'm still fat in places.0
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One day, people will realise that discussions about "fat burning" are fallacious.
I liken "methods" to promote "fat burn" as solutions to an imaginary problem.
When at rest, yes we burn fat. We already do that. It is normal. It's called being alive.
If our post exercise metabolism is raised, yes we burn a few more calories but the difference due to a raised metabolism would be less than the additional calories metabolised during a steady/pretty easy 20-min spin on the bike.
1-min max power is a completely different thing to 1-min max at the end of a ramp test. I'd estimate that you could sustain the peak 1-min power from a 20W/min ramp test for about 3-min as a stand alone effort.0 -
Alex_Simmons/RST wrote:One day, people will realise that discussions about "fat burning" are fallacious.
I liken "methods" to promote "fat burn" as solutions to an imaginary problem.
When at rest, yes we burn fat. We already do that. It is normal. It's called being alive.
If our post exercise metabolism is raised, yes we burn a few more calories but the difference due to a raised metabolism would be less than the additional calories metabolised during a steady/pretty easy 20-min spin on the bike.
1-min max power is a completely different thing to 1-min max at the end of a ramp test. I'd estimate that you could sustain the peak 1-min power from a 20W/min ramp test for about 3-min as a stand alone effort.
We'd already established that...
As I said, I haven't got time at the moment for anything longer than a few minutes so I'm giving this a go and posting the results. I don't know if it will work for me but it's better than nowt!0 -
Today's -
Went a bit harder on the first one but still not giving it vollback at first due to leg. Still, 1st interval was 673 watts but by the 4th you can clearly see the mahoosive decline so no 5th interval...
Will be pleased when it I can do over 1kW again, very nearly there (926)
I'll post the next one when I see any improvements. Still not weighed myself as Wii Fit isn't set up yet...0 -
NapoleonD wrote:mask of sanity wrote:Bhima wrote:This is supposed to be incredible for fat loss apparently.
You sure about that? I was under the impression that respiration with fat as the substrate requires lots of oxygen, therefore limiting it's use to aerobic. I doubt this kind of training will come under aerobic respiration.
Although I could be completely wrong!
The studies suggest it is good for fat loss due to the boost they give to the metabolism.
I'm around 13kg heavier than I was when I broke my leg so we'll see what happens here too...
The body is more efficient at burning fat with oxygen but at higher intensities you burn more calories and as a result more are burnt from fat but it is a double edge sword as it also burns more from your muscles too.
NapoleonD is correct in saying it boosts your metabolism so burns more calories from the "afterburn" so if your goal is weight loss doing this session in the morning will give you better results as you will have the afterburn for longer0 -
NapoleonD wrote:but by the 4th you can clearly see the mahoosive decline so no 5th interval...
Do you reckon it's better to go all-out and stop when you're legs are burned out, or pace it so you can guarantee doing a specific number of intervals?
I was doing a "Chris Hoy" off the starting grid... errr... I mean traffic lights
yesterday and using the red lights as recovery time while commuting. I wasn't even going that fast but I think it's the unxepected start/stop nature of quick intervals which really gets you out of breath and gives your VO2 Max a kick up the ar5e. If you're trying to target VO2 Max, is it not better to prolong the whole workout for as long as possible in order to be breathing heavily for a longer period of time?
Or is going 100% for as long as possible better for VO2 Max?
I'm going to try this out properly in the gym later today. The spinning bikes are fully adjustable so i've had some funny looks when I've brought my tape-measure in - doing these intervals will probably freak the other members out even more as I gasp for breath and have a psychopathic look on my face. :? 0 -
I'm just doing the protocol which says nowt about pacing for set number of intervals, just to go as hard as possible.
I'm going to try for 5 later...
Gutted cos I've lost so much from this stupid break.0 -
100 seconds of hard peddaling ? I don't know how you can manage
I'm a bit dubious about these intervals, I understand for peaking but as a serious training session ... nah. Maybe after a hard 2 hour ride.0 -
Infamous wrote:100 seconds of hard peddaling ? I don't know how you can manage
I'm a bit dubious about these intervals, I understand for peaking but as a serious training session ... nah. Maybe after a hard 2 hour ride.
That's why I'm trying them out. I only have 20 mins max a day (and not every day at that!) at the moment.
I may get to 4-6 weeks and no improvement, but it's better than 20 minutes of spinning or 20 minutes of nothing!0 -
Just go flat out for 20 minutes.
and if I may insult you briefly, you spend a lot of time on here, so ride your bike instead?0 -
I can't at work / with tiny kiddie...
Besides, there have been numerous studies about these intervals. I can't go flat out for 20 mins due to warm up/cool down...0 -
Well keep posting your workouts I find them very interesting.
on that note, did we ever see any of bhima's workouts?0 -
Do you think he's fictional?0
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No, I don't exist.0
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Bhima wrote:It's mathematically possible that a high-intensity, 30-minute turbo workout will burn the same calories as a steady 2-hour ride.
Or you could do a two hour high intensity ride, aka, a road race."A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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ShockedSoShocked wrote:Bhima wrote:It's mathematically possible that a high-intensity, 30-minute turbo workout will burn the same calories as a steady 2-hour ride.
Or you could do a two hour high intensity ride, aka, a road race.
Bhima? In a road race?
Apparently it's happened but no-one knows for sure....0 -
Today I managed to blag a 2hr ride
Seem to be coming along well. Just a steady ride although I pushed a little for 5 mins up Artists Lane which shows in the peak 5 min power...
The Litespeed was a joy as I have set it up right now with the correct (setback) seatpost. It was nice to get out, back to Tabatas for the rest of the week though...
Entire workout (162 watts):
Duration: 2:00:37 (2:01:41)
Work: 1172 kJ
TSS: 138.2 (intensity factor 0.83)
Norm Power: 208
VI: 1.28
Distance: 30.524 mi
...................... Min Max Avg
Power: 0 711 162 watts
Heart Rate: 102 189 149 bpm
Cadence: 29 236 76 rpm
Speed: 2.4 29.1 15.2 mph
Pace 2:04 25:25 3:57 min/mi
Hub Torque: 0 453 85 lb-in
Crank Torque: 0 1067 192 lb-in
Peak 5s (680 watts):
Duration: 0:05
Work: 3 kJ
TSS: n/a
Norm Power: n/a
VI: n/a
Distance: 131 ft
....................... Min Max Avg
Power: 618 711 680 watts
Heart Rate: 137 142 140 bpm
Cadence: 68 75 72 rpm
Speed: 16.3 18.1 17.1 mph
Peak 1min (377 watts):
Duration: 1:00
Work: 23 kJ
TSS: 5.7 (intensity factor 1.846)
Norm Power: n/a
VI: n/a
Distance: 0.309 mi
........................Min Max Avg
Power: 87 711 377 watts
Heart Rate: 130 180 162 bpm
Cadence: 67 88 77 rpm
Speed: 16 20.9 18.4 mph
Peak 5min (311 watts):
Duration: 5:01
Work: 94 kJ
TSS: 13.9 (intensity factor 1.287)
Norm Power: 322
VI: 1.04
Distance: 0.912 mi
........................Min Max Avg
Power: 179 503 311 watts
Heart Rate: 152 189 178 bpm
Cadence: 49 109 67 rpm
Speed: 6.7 15.7 10.9 mph
Peak 20min (216 watts):
Duration: 20:02
Work: 260 kJ
TSS: 38.8 (intensity factor 1.079)
Norm Power: 270
VI: 1.25
Distance: 4.747 mi
........................Min Max Avg
Power: 0 711 216 watts
Heart Rate: 130 189 161 bpm
Cadence: 39 215 75 rpm
Speed: 2.5 28.5 14.2 mph
Peak 60min (180 watts):
Duration: 1:00:12 (1:01:16)
Work: 648 kJ
TSS: 81.2 (intensity factor 0.901)
Norm Power: 225
VI: 1.25
Distance: 14.869 mi
........................Min Max Avg
Power: 0 711 180 watts
Heart Rate: 102 189 151 bpm
Cadence: 31 215 78 rpm
Speed: 2.5 29.1 14.9 mph0 -
NapoleonD wrote:Has anyone ever actually seen Bhima?!?
He's doing a wheelers 10 on the 27th, see the "I raced a moped" thread 0 -
I saw!!!
I may even come along!0 -
Difficult to see as I only get a readout of power/HR/cadence/speed. Don't take my garmin out with the PT. Looks like about 6mins. The tendons round the knee are defo improving. Consultant can't believe how quickly I'm recovering...0
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NapoleonD wrote:Has anyone ever actually seen Bhima?!?
Apparently, he cycled past us today near Adlington, no handed and chewing a nana. :shock:0 -
Yeah, that was me. Cycling up 10% hills no-handed eating bananas is my speciality.
Was going to make a suprise appearence at the Gateway as I was up all night doing UNI work and I thought i'd treat myself for all the hard work i'd been doing.
Lost track of time and ended up leaving the house at 9:30. Had no idea you lot were going down that end - I also saw some of you in the distance along the Goyt river. I headed for blaze farm after that, lost track of where you lot went.
Would have tagged along with that group, but you seemed to be going back towards Manchester and i'd only done 15 miles. :? I was hungry for my hills and you seemed to be running away from them!
What's funny is that I only took one banana today, and of all the possible times and places I could have eaten it, it just had to be there in front of you lot. 0 -
I'm working a late on the 27th
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Bhima wrote:Would have tagged along with that group, but you seemed to be going back towards Manchester and i'd only done 15 miles. :? I was hungry for my hills and you seemed to be running away from them!
we passed you at half eleven, so you'd only done 15 miles in 2 hours?
The clubrun climbed over 3000ft today, and that was the short route!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/113158870
