Michael Jackson Dead
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NapoleonD wrote:There are rumours that the Cardiac arrest was brought about by MJ tripping over a child's pram. A spokesperson was quoted as saying that further details will be announced but at the moment we shouldn't blame it on the buggy.
The death certificate is likley to list "boogie" as cause of death with the coroner having already ruled out sunshine, moonlight and good times as possible causes...0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:
The death certificate is likley to list "boogie" as cause of death with the coroner having already ruled out sunshine, moonlight and good times as possible causes...
it seems he was unable to control his feet.......0 -
NapoleonD wrote:I only like his very early stuff but also fail to see why he was so popular to the point of hysteria!
+1 early stuff great, musically disappeared up his own bum some years ago.
Apparently he had a Stroke in the Children's Ward :oops:0 -
Heavymental wrote:Nothing wrong with Led Zep. Just that I used them as an example of a rock mediocrity
Led Zeppelin? Rock mediocrity? How very dare you.
RIP Jacko.0 -
Heavymental wrote:So you're obviously a music fan then, Porgy. But you're 'completely baffled by his extreme popularity'? That doesn't make sense to me as surely you can see that he made perfect pop records which embedded themselves in popular culture? Just like Abba and the Beatles, you may not like the music but you have to recognise how and why it was popular and important?
Nothing wrong with Led Zep. Just that I used them as an example of a rock mediocrity....with an edge. Not my bag, but of course I recognise their contribution.
Its important to recongise the difference between bad music and music that isn't to your taste. Michael Jackson obviously isn't to your taste but you can recognise its worth...no?
No, not really - I'm a big Quincy Jones fan and see his work with MJ as seriously compromised in order to be commerical.
I like a lot of soul/ dance/ disco / rnb btw and almost every other major artist has more merit than Jackson. At a push I'd say Jackson made one great album - Off The Wall - but even that is patchy - I mean there's that god awful thing he did with McCartney on there.
I don't get ABBA either - I never thoguht they were very good tbh - the odd good hook but their songs are generally tedious and irritating.
I don't think you can say Led Zep are mediocre btw - groundbreaking - and I still can't think of a rock/ blues band that even comes close. There are better bands of course, but none that can do what Led Zep did - and god knows enough bands have tried.
Oh....maybe White Stripes a bit - but then he's just copying isn't he?0 -
Well, what can I say. You'll hear plenty of experts over the next few days telling you why his work was so important and popular. They're talking about it on the radio constantly today. When the members of Abba pass away you'll hear plenty of experts talking endlessly about their harmonies and melodies and why they were so important in pop music history too. I can't say I like their music either...although Fernando is a good one! 8)
By the way Porgy. Can you recommend some Quincy Jones albums? I heard Trevor Nelson showcasing one of his albums on his Wednesday night soul show on Radio 2 but I can't remember what album it was. (Trevor is on the Jeremy Vine show now actually...and worth listening to what he has to say about MJ). Also, his Wednesday night show is good for soul fans btw.0 -
.....When Alex Fergson was asked bout his 2009/10 squad plans he said that unlike Jacko he still planned to play Giggs this August.....0
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Heavymental wrote:Well, what can I say. You'll hear plenty of experts over the next few days telling you why his work was so important and popular. They're talking about it on the radio constantly today. When the members of Abba pass away you'll hear plenty of experts talking endlessly about their harmonies and melodies and why they were so important in pop music history too.
I don't listen to "experts" - I'd rather listen to an enthusiastic fan to be honest.
Important and popular are, of course, two entirely different things - one of my favourite tracks ever - Sister Ray by the Velvet Underground - I've pretty much only read bad things about but I love it - and one of my favourite bands ever - the ramones - well - it's not about technicalities is it? It's about something undefinable.
I watched a programme about the making of Thriller a while back and so can appreciate the work that went into it - even can pick out bits i like - but I think the sum total is rather less than the parts that went into it.
I don't like Sgt Pepper either - and yet I love the Beatles generally. I don't know what that means - maybe that if you mess about with the music too much it becomes souless - which is after all kind of the point of music - to make you feel - at least something - which is why i love it.0 -
What Trevor Nelson did say was that he had an opportunity to meet Jacko, but turned it down, because of the 'alligations'. He has kids you know
More upset by Farrah Fawcett leaving us, a much bigger influence in my formative years..0 -
Ah well, I love his stuff, Porgy. Human Nature, Off The Wall, Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Billie Jean, Thriller, Girlfriend, Beat It, Man In The Mirror etc etc. Such great tunes, rhythms, words. Brilliant.
Got any Quicy recommendations for me then?0 -
Soul Boy wrote:What Trevor Nelson did say was that he had an opportunity to meet Jacko, but turned it down, because of the 'alligations'. He has kids you know
Did he say that? I didn't hear that. Strange as he was hosting the after party at his gigs planned for next month.0 -
bastards.0
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Heavymental wrote:Ah well, I love his stuff, Porgy. Human Nature, Off The Wall, Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Billie Jean, Thriller, Girlfriend, Beat It, Man In The Mirror etc etc. Such great tunes, rhythms, words. Brilliant.
Got any Quicy recommendations for me then?
I'll have to get back to you - I'm crap at remembering titles - and only have a series of QJ compilations not the proper albums. But generally I like his 60s stuff - I have a tape compilation of stuff he wrote for tv and films in late 60s/ early 70s somewhere - but its in a box in storage as is all my music on tape, vinyl and CD.0 -
they are saying that its suspected suicide now. They are saying it was drugs. They found class a in the bathroom, class b in the bedroom and class 4'c in the lounge
SHAMONE MUTHAFUPPER!'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
Well - he had enough reasons to do himself in.
Plenty of murmers that he wasn't fit to do one gig let alone a year in the O2. And it'll be interesting to see how big his debts actually are - it'll probably make Robert Maxwell look small-time.0 -
Prob.looking for a medical way out of the gigs but it all went wrong. The lawyers/Ticketmaster and the Jackson family will all be on the cash-in soon. There'll be the merchandise, the MJ-land theme park etc.
McDonalds are bringing out a MJ burger...50 year old meat between 2 10 year old buns
M.Rushton0 -
Don't any of you have any respect? No one knows for a fact that he was a kiddy fiddler, it's likely he was not tbh, he had a **** childhood. His music was great, yes admittedly he did look very weird.
Lots of sheep round here.0 -
If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.0
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freehub wrote:Don't any of you have any respect? No one knows for a fact that he was a kiddy fiddler, it's likely he was not tbh, he had a **** childhood. His music was great, yes admittedly he did look very weird.
No, I don't think we do and you know what? we don't give a toss! he lived his life in the public eye and like a lot of celebrities was happy to reap the rewards. people like him or Liza Minelli could always get a job at Wal-mart and live quietly but somehow that will never happen. he may have been psychologically damaged but he had the money to get help (if he wanted it). Anyway, what's happening in the real worldM.Rushton0 -
I cant stand the jokes related around his affairs with boys.
People come on here and elsewhere saying how dsgusting it is and its good he is dead etc, and at the same time making the issue light hearted by making up jokes.
I really dont think its a laughing matter at all.Mañana0 -
pb21 wrote:I cant stand the jokes related around his affairs with boys.
People come on here and elsewhere saying how dsgusting it is and its good he is dead etc, and at the same time making the issue light hearted by making up jokes.
I really dont think its a laughing matter at all.
Which bit? The allegations, his death or the humour or all of it?M.Rushton0 -
Has anyone brought up the white glove project.
I think it's a lovely example of people doing something nice for mj...
one of the results can be found here0 -
mrushton wrote:pb21 wrote:I cant stand the jokes related around his affairs with boys.
People come on here and elsewhere saying how dsgusting it is and its good he is dead etc, and at the same time making the issue light hearted by making up jokes.
I really dont think its a laughing matter at all.
Which bit? The allegations, his death or the humour or all of it?
Making jokes about peadophillia. It just strikes me as absurd.Mañana0 -
Is that the love of a garden vegetable?M.Rushton0
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Heavymental wrote:Soul Boy wrote:What Trevor Nelson did say was that he had an opportunity to meet Jacko, but turned it down, because of the 'alligations'. He has kids you know
Did he say that? I didn't hear that. Strange as he was hosting the after party at his gigs planned for next month.
In an interview on Radio 5.0 -
Rev\'d Gatlin wrote:
You called me what? And you don't even know what it means.
No, I don't think we do and you know what? we don't give a toss! he lived his life in the public eye and like a lot of celebrities was happy to reap the rewards. people like him or Liza Minelli could always get a job at Wal-mart and live quietly but somehow that will never happen. he may have been psychologically damaged but he had the money to get help (if he wanted it). Anyway, what's happening in the real world
If you have no respect then you are tbh total scum, imagine if someone you knew died and people where making fun of it, you'd not have any of that and that is a fact.
Now if I made fun of someone on here who died, looked around at his posts then found something I could make fun of, I know I'd have heaps of people jumping at me, if I took the piss out of the death of someone for example THEGREATGATSBY.0
