Guess How Many Calories I Am Burning?

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  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Out of interest, how many miles and how often do you guys train?
    It varies obviously, but roughly..... an easy week for me would be riding 5/6 days per week doing 100-150 miles, harder weeks are more like 7 days a week and 200-250 miles. Intensity wise, the hard weeks will have faster/hillier rides, with 1 day a week of TT effort. Also, these things change week by week as I feel, I don't like things set in stone as I don't usually stick to them.

    3 hard weeks followed by 1 easy. for me.

    You are yanking my chain right? Surely you are joking? Where do you get the time for all that? How long does it take you to ride 250 miles?
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Out of interest, how many miles and how often do you guys train?
    It varies obviously, but roughly..... an easy week for me would be riding 5/6 days per week doing 100-150 miles, harder weeks are more like 7 days a week and 200-250 miles. Intensity wise, the hard weeks will have faster/hillier rides, with 1 day a week of TT effort. Also, these things change week by week as I feel, I don't like things set in stone as I don't usually stick to them.

    3 hard weeks followed by 1 easy. for me.

    You are yanking my chain right? Surely you are joking? Where do you get the time for all that? How long does it take you to ride 250 miles?
    I would never yank your chain sir.

    7-8 hours on an easy week, 10-15 on the harder weeks. I also only ride fixed, not that it means much. The last time I did 250 miles it took 14 and a half hours, but this week I will do 250 in about 13, been a fast week.

    I enjoy it so I make the time for it, I am sure there are plenty of people who ride a lot more than me week in week out.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Out of interest, how many miles and how often do you guys train?
    It varies obviously, but roughly..... an easy week for me would be riding 5/6 days per week doing 100-150 miles, harder weeks are more like 7 days a week and 200-250 miles. Intensity wise, the hard weeks will have faster/hillier rides, with 1 day a week of TT effort. Also, these things change week by week as I feel, I don't like things set in stone as I don't usually stick to them.

    3 hard weeks followed by 1 easy. for me.

    You are yanking my chain right? Surely you are joking? Where do you get the time for all that? How long does it take you to ride 250 miles?
    I would never yank your chain sir.

    7-8 hours on an easy week, 10-15 on the harder weeks. I also only ride fixed, not that it means much. The last time I did 250 miles it took 14 and a half hours, but this week I will do 250 in about 13, been a fast week.

    I enjoy it so I make the time for it, I am sure there are plenty of people who ride a lot more than me week in week out.

    That is incredible, its pretty much half way to Scotland for me!

    But how do you get the time? Do you not work? Or is this your work - are you a pro? :?

    Now i see why you think 1-1.5 hours is burning very little calories! :lol:
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Just weighed in this morning at 15stone 9lbs exactly.....

    My goal 'was' 15stone 7lbs, hopefully will hit this tommorrow morning, however i'm thinking of setting another goal at 14stone 7lbs, as i believe i still have enough time left, not going on holiday until 16th July, so another 1stone in a little under 5 weeks should be achievable at the rate i'm loosing at present.

    The Mrs came in from work last night and said to me that i've lost too much weight, and to slow it down a little because i'm starting to look skinny, however my stomach has gone back in nicely and i have no loose skin.....

    I was watching a program last night, i think it was on BBCTHREE, about Dieting Gone Wrong, and this guy had dieted from 23 or 24 stone down to about 12 stone, but he had loads and loads of loose skin on his stomach, he had to tuck it all inside his trousers, it was literally just hanging there, he was so embarassed to take his top off that he would go on holiday and be the only one on the beach with a t-shire on....

    He was even so embarassed letting his Mrs see it that he wore a T-Shire in bed....

    He has been waiting 5 years to go under the surgeons knife to have it all cut away.

    However, 'hopefully' i won't have this problem, as was looking at my stomach last night in the miirror and asked my Mrs what she reckoned and she said its all pulling in well, she said i don't seem to have that type of skin that stretches, it seems to be thick and well toned up...but then she did say that i've never had any overhang, even when i was 18stone 2lbs....
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    That is incredible, its pretty much half way to Scotland for me!
    Well I don't ride in a straight line all week and end up in inverness on a sunday.
    Soni wrote:
    But how do you get the time? Do you not work? Or is this your work - are you a pro? :?

    Now i see why you think 1-1.5 hours is burning very little calories! :lol:
    I make the time for it! Just make sure I get out each day and the distance takes care of itself.

    It's only the last few months that have been this high volume, I'm trying to push the mileage at the moment to build up for next year.
  • Soni wrote:
    But how do you get the time? Do you not work? Or is this your work - are you a pro? :?
    You make the time. I'm sure Infamous does.

    I used to get up at 5am to do a solid 2 hour training ride before work 3 days a week, plus a light spin day, plus the weekend rides, throw in a race and it's pretty easy to get 10-12 hours in. And that's in the winter.

    Now days I don't have to get up so early (as a coach I work from a home office).
  • DaSy
    DaSy Posts: 599
    I pretty much follow the same pattern as Alex.

    Three days a week I get up at five, out for six and do a couple of hours, sometimes hill training, sometimes tempo etc.

    Weekends I do a long ride of between 65 and 100 miles on Sat, and Sunday will be a slower 50 or 60 miles.

    My weekly mileages tend to be around 250, at the moment they are nearer 300 as I'm just about about to do a tour of the Alps for 7 days. Next weeks tapering is the biggest challenge, I really struggle with tapering, I always feel like a years worth of training is wasted by a weeks lower volume/intensity! I'm learning to get over that though, I know it makes sense.
    Complicating matters since 1965
  • MAXTHEDOG
    MAXTHEDOG Posts: 29
    Soni,

    Yes that was my 'Max'.Dead about 8 years now but as I said earlier used to love MTB'ing in the dales,lakes etc.

    Be careful about overtraining, if you do it could set you back a lot.All the exercise benefits happen when you're resting.

    Good luck for your future weight loss.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    MAXTHEDOG wrote:
    Soni,

    Yes that was my 'Max'.Dead about 8 years now but as I said earlier used to love MTB'ing in the dales,lakes etc.

    Be careful about overtraining, if you do it could set you back a lot.All the exercise benefits happen when you're resting.

    Good luck for your future weight loss.

    Sorry to hear about Max, he was a lovely looking dog....
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    That is incredible, its pretty much half way to Scotland for me!
    Well I don't ride in a straight line all week and end up in inverness on a sunday.
    Soni wrote:
    But how do you get the time? Do you not work? Or is this your work - are you a pro? :?

    Now i see why you think 1-1.5 hours is burning very little calories! :lol:
    I make the time for it! Just make sure I get out each day and the distance takes care of itself.

    It's only the last few months that have been this high volume, I'm trying to push the mileage at the moment to build up for next year.

    Straight Line/Inverness :lol:
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Soni wrote:
    But how do you get the time? Do you not work? Or is this your work - are you a pro? :?
    You make the time. I'm sure Infamous does.

    I used to get up at 5am to do a solid 2 hour training ride before work 3 days a week, plus a light spin day, plus the weekend rides, throw in a race and it's pretty easy to get 10-12 hours in. And that's in the winter.

    Now days I don't have to get up so early (as a coach I work from a home office).

    I've been getting out of bed the last 5 weeks, 7 days per week, (haven't missed one single session) before 5am, and on the road between 5 and 5.15am, however i don't do 250 miles before i come to work.....

    Or are you guys meaning that its the total miles you do per week (250), i.e., if i was to do 35 miles every morning, 7 days per week, that would equate to 250 miles per week...
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Is this a wind up?
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Is this a wind up?

    Sorry mate, just re-read your post, i thought you were saying that you rode between 150-250 miles per ride, 5/6 days per week!

    Thats why i replied with do you work and how do you fit it all in.....

    I feel like i'm back in the same club as you guys now, as i could probably equal those distances if i was to do 1.5 hours every morning, instead of 1 hour, as that would be around 25 miles per day, 175 miles per week, then i could up it to 2 hours, which i would expect to be around about 33 miles per day, which would be 231 mils over the week.....

    However, what would you say would be better.....

    To do 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the evening, which i could fit in to my lifestyle a hell of a lot better, or to do a straight 2 hours at once....... :?
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    I would say the 2 rides would be better than 1, especially if you can fit it in better.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    I would say the 2 rides would be better than 1, especially if you can fit it in better.

    Then thats what it will be then, starting from Sunday i will be upping my training to 2 x 1hr sessions, can't start the second session until Sunday as i work on a Friday and Saturday night.....

    Will be interesting to see how much extra weight i can loose with this new training plan....
  • fuzzynavel
    fuzzynavel Posts: 718
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    I would say the 2 rides would be better than 1, especially if you can fit it in better.

    Then thats what it will be then, starting from Sunday i will be upping my training to 2 x 1hr sessions, can't start the second session until Sunday as i work on a Friday and Saturday night.....

    Will be interesting to see how much extra weight i can loose with this new training plan....

    Hey Soni....Firstly well done on having the willpower to stick to your diet but take care of yourself...Don't lose sight of your general health while you are losing the weight.
    17 Stone down to 12.5 now raring to get back on the bike!
  • Infamous wrote:
    I would say the 2 rides would be better than 1, especially if you can fit it in better.
    Given a preference, I would suggest 1 x 2hr ride rather than 2 x 1hr rides. Body gets a full day/night to recover before next ride. Also wastes less time with warm up/cool down as well as the benefits from a sustained effort for longer durations.

    But if that's the only way to find the time to get the training volume you desire, then 2x1 is OK too.

    You can always mix 'n' match.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    I would have thought the second hour of a 2 x 1hr day would be of higher intensity than the second hour of a 1 x 2hr ride, especially at a lower level of fitness. And if his main concern is calorie burning, then riding twice is better. imo.
  • Infamous wrote:
    I would have thought the second hour of a 2 x 1hr day would be of higher intensity than the second hour of a 1 x 2hr ride, especially at a lower level of fitness. And if his main concern is calorie burning, then riding twice is better. imo.
    There's not a lot in it. I'd suggest:

    1. just ride harder in the 2nd hour. Or pace it well. can do endurance ride with tempo finish, or do some threshold work in the middle.

    2. by having the time to recover properly, you are more likely to ride more, and/or sustain a higher overall effort over the course of a training cycle

    3. far better to train to become fitter/more powerful and let the calories look after themselves. That way one develops the capacity to train more and at a higher power, which in turn enables one to burn more calories for every hour on the bike
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    3 is a very good point and that's what we all should be aiming for, but in this instance I'd still say Soni would benefit from spltting it up into 2 rides.

    As a relative beginner he might find 2 hour rides a bit long, especially every day... also mentally it can be easier to split it up over the day.

    Perhaps building up to riding 2 hours straight every day and/or doing longer rides occasionally when he is fitter/more powerful.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Hi Guys, if i could fit 1 x 2hr ride in, then thats what i would prefer to do, however my Mrs ha just bought a bike now and she's started going out in the mornings as well.

    She is doing 1/2 hour at the moment, until her fitness builds up, as we live in a very hilly area, and she finds 1/2 hour to be enough for her at the moment.

    She has to leave for work at 6.45am, so she gets out on the road at 4.30am, she's back from 5.00am, i go out at 5.00am, and do 1hr or 1.5 hours, depending on how long i've got, as i have to get back home, and take the dog out before she leaves for work at 6.45, as we have two young children and obviously they can't be in the house alone by themselves.....

    So, the 2 x 1hr or even 2 x 1.5 hour sessions will have to be the way to go for me for the time being.

    We've just come back from a family ride today, we left at 10am this morning, and just got back at 2.45, must have done about 15 miles round trip, with a stop off at a village pub for lunch (only drinking Diet Coke no beer!), my youngest (5 yr old) was on a trike attached to the back of my mountain bike, so i have had one severe workout up the hills!

    Also, checked my heart rate this morning, its now dropped from 59BPM - 51BMP!!!

    However, my wife asked quite a good question, as hers is in the 80's, she's 28, i'm 36, she said what if my heart rate drops tooooo low.........can it become a problem?????

    It won't just stop will it?

    I'm assuming the hart rate drop is due to the training i'm doing everyday??? :?

    I'm certainly not feeling burnt outl, i've got loads and bags of energy, and i'm not hurting after the rides, or getting any chest pain or discomfort or anything....
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    We've just come back from a family ride today, we left at 10am this morning, and just got back at 2.45, my youngest (5 yr old) was on on a trike attached to the back of my mountain bike, so i have had a severe workout up the hills!
    Don't let your children become lazy.
    Soni wrote:
    Also, checked my heart rate this morning, its now dropped from 59BPM - 51BMP!!!

    However, my wife asked quite a good question, as hers is in the 80's, she's 28, i'm 36, she said what if my heart rate drops tooooo low.........can it become a problem?????

    I'm assuming the hart rate drop is due to the training i'm doing everyday??? :?
    Cashback!

    No it can't drop too low.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Cashback?

    Whats the lowest it will go to?

    My 5 year old has NO common sense, she would for one not be able to ride that type of distance, and for two isn't old enough or wise enough near roads yet....

    However, my 8 year old on the other hand is a right fighter, she has her own bike and she is out of the saddle going up hills, has a really good little technique for climbing, i say to her 'go on Lance Armstrong....', as she really goes for it.....
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    Cashback?
    Alan Partridge joke.
    Soni wrote:
    Whats the lowest it will go to?
    Indurain's was <30 I think. So depends on how many TDF's you win. It's arbritrary anyway, someone with a 40bpm resting rate isn't always fitter/faster than someone with a 50bpm resting rate.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    I was just a little concerned as my heart rate has never been this low....but so long as it doesn't stop, or give me any problems, it can go as low as it wants!
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Well the lower the better presumably, as long as it's above 0.
  • Soni wrote:
    I was just a little concerned as my heart rate has never been this low....but so long as it doesn't stop, or give me any problems, it can go as low as it wants!
    One of the signs of improving fitness is resting HR will decrease. If you continue to train consistently and improve fitness, it will likely drop further and eventually settle and fluctuate a bit depending on various things - stress, illness, fatigue levels etc.

    One of the reasons for it is the heart becomes capable of pushing more blood with each beat (stroke volume increases), hence it doesn't need to beat as often to move the same volume of blood. There are other factors as well.
  • sampras38
    sampras38 Posts: 1,917
    Infamous wrote:
    Well the lower the better presumably, as long as it's above 0.

    Not always but generally yes.

    There is a slight misconception on HR though, and not all pro rider's heart rates are as low as you might think.

    Also, to the OP, keep an eye on your HR as if it fluctuates a lot, or gets higher at rest, it can be a sign you are overtraining.
  • muddyface
    muddyface Posts: 30
    i think ur scales are broken take em back