Guess How Many Calories I Am Burning?

Soni
Soni Posts: 1,217
Hi guys, i'm presently trying to loose as much weight as i can by 16th July for my holiday.

I started a little over 4-5 weeks ago at 18stone 2lbs, which was my heaviest ever, i am 36, in my early 20's i was allways around 12.5 stone.

However, in the past 4-5 weeks i've managed to get down to 15st 13lbs 3/4.....

I train every day:-

Training 1: Doing 12 miles before work Mon-Fri on my road bike, which lasts about 45-50 minutes.

Training 2: Weekends Saturdays and Sundays 25 miles per day in around 1.5 hours.

How many calories would you say i am burning with each of the above training sessions?

The reason i ask is i am still eating takeaways, Thursday night i had an Indian which consisted of Special Rice, Chicken Tikka Massala, Aloo Gobi, Kema Knan...

Friday i had Chinese which concsisted of Sweet & Sour Chicken Balls, Special Rice.

Saturday night i had Chinese Chicken Curry, Special Rice, and Chips.

However, i am still loosing around 2lbs per day......

However, i try and stick to around 1500 calories per day, and the above takeaways aren't every day of the week.....

I know there are lots of variables involved, however i'm not asking for you to guess exactly to the 1 calorie, however within 100 carlories would be nice :)
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  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,632
    Soni wrote:
    loosing around 2lbs per day......
    :shock:

    Very suprising.

    Training for just 7 hrs a week but having 3 takeaways a week.

    Not sure this is the recommended route.

    Are you sure about the 1500 KCals? What else do you eat on a day that you have "Chinese Chicken Curry, Special Rice and Chips"? Not much presumably.

    Recomended weight loss is say 2lbs / week. Not 14 lbs per week. What is the rush? Why do you have to lose the weight for your holiday?
    Rich
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    You will be burning roughly fk all calories on 7 hours a week and you'll be too tired to ride at any decent intensity.

    You're basically starving yourself thin, try eating a lot then sicking it up... works well for all those skinny teenage girls.... and probably just as healthy as what you're doing.
  • ut_och_cykla
    ut_och_cykla Posts: 1,594
    an average kcal sonsumption for someone who is quite heavy and not very fast I would GUESS to be no more than 500kcal and hour ie you might be burning off 3500-4000kcal a week - about equivalent to ½ kilogram 7 1 lb of fat - hard to say how your losing 2lb a day that would mean a deficit of several thousand kcals !
    But good luck and don't make yourself ill dieting!
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    so in 5 weeks (35 days) you've gone from 254 lbs to 224 lbs.

    so 30 lbs lost in 35 days = 6/7 of a lb per day (still very high).

    according to the internet, there are 3500 calories in 1 lb of fat. So if we assume it was 100% fat loss, that's 3000 calories per day deficit over 35 days!

    But it won't be 100% fat, when losing weight we lose both fat and muscle (in equal measures I think?). And muscle has less calories in, also, muscle and fat store water, so some of it will be water lost... so it'd probably be closer to 2000 calories a day deficit.... which on 1500 calories a day probably sounds about right.

    This is a rough estimate, I'm no scientist. Considering the muscle loss and loose skin, I can't imagine you'd look great doing this... and you must be starving all the time. Be careful.
  • pedylan
    pedylan Posts: 768
    There are various exercise calculators on the net. Try this one

    http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

    You can select your exercise, weight, speed and time or do it by distance.

    Assuming you are maintaining your effort at 16mph which is the speed during your training sessions, you will expend 1000cal/h at 100kg body weight.

    The algorithm used on this website calculator seems similar to my Polar HRM, Ergo turbo trainer and various gym equipment i.e. for the same effort/distance/speed I get very similar calorie use data.

    Either way, three takeaways a week will take a bit of cycling off........
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  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    RichA wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    loosing around 2lbs per day......
    :shock:

    Very suprising.

    Training for just 7 hrs a week but having 3 takeaways a week.

    Not sure this is the recommended route.

    Are you sure about the 1500 KCals? What else do you eat on a day that you have "Chinese Chicken Curry, Special Rice and Chips"? Not much presumably.

    Recomended weight loss is say 2lbs / week. Not 14 lbs per week. What is the rush? Why do you have to lose the weight for your holiday?

    I didn't want to go to Turkey in last 2 weeks of July (its going to be hot) being 18 stone.

    Even though i'm now 15st 13lbs 3/4, which some would still consider as heavy, i feel totally different, I haven't got the bulge in the mid section anymore, i can bend down to do my laces up easy without any obstructions, and best of all i feel a lot purer and healthier.

    I don't eat takeaways everyday, just around 2-3 times per week, on the other days i've been having a slimfast shake in the mornings, a large Southern Fried Chicken Pasta Salad from Tesco at lunchtime (really nice would recommend to anybody) and then a SlimFast mealbar in the evening, and i don't even feel hungry.

    I want to be able to go on holiday and enjoy myself and not feel embarassed about taking my top off, and the results i've achieved so far in this short time is encouraging for what i 'may' be able to achieve in the next 5 weeks.....maybe even getting down to 14 stone, which would be a major achievement for me loosing 4 stone.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    You will be burning roughly fk all calories on 7 hours a week and you'll be too tired to ride at any decent intensity.

    You're basically starving yourself thin, try eating a lot then sicking it up... works well for all those skinny teenage girls.... and probably just as healthy as what you're doing.

    I wouldn't go as far as saying burning no calories, i must be doing something right as i've received loads of comments from people like 'you have really lost some weight', 'how have you lost so much weight so quickly', 'have you been taking diet pills', 'have you not been eating', etc.,

    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    so in 5 weeks (35 days) you've gone from 254 lbs to 224 lbs.

    so 30 lbs lost in 35 days = 6/7 of a lb per day (still very high).

    according to the internet, there are 3500 calories in 1 lb of fat. So if we assume it was 100% fat loss, that's 3000 calories per day deficit over 35 days!

    But it won't be 100% fat, when losing weight we lose both fat and muscle (in equal measures I think?). And muscle has less calories in, also, muscle and fat store water, so some of it will be water lost... so it'd probably be closer to 2000 calories a day deficit.... which on 1500 calories a day probably sounds about right.

    This is a rough estimate, I'm no scientist. Considering the muscle loss and loose skin, I can't imagine you'd look great doing this... and you must be starving all the time. Be careful.

    Hi mate, not feeling the slightest bit hungry.

    My Mrs said it seems to be coming off from all over my body, not just in one place....she said its all proportional.

    Also, my stomach is going back really nicely, i don't have any loose skin on my stomach at all.

    However, even when i was 18 stone people didn't believe me and said i don't look fat.....
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    pedylan wrote:
    There are various exercise calculators on the net. Try this one

    http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

    You can select your exercise, weight, speed and time or do it by distance.

    Assuming you are maintaining your effort at 16mph which is the speed during your training sessions, you will expend 1000cal/h at 100kg body weight.

    The algorithm used on this website calculator seems similar to my Polar HRM, Ergo turbo trainer and various gym equipment i.e. for the same effort/distance/speed I get very similar calorie use data.

    Either way, three takeaways a week will take a bit of cycling off........

    Hi mate, 1000cal/hour, that sounds excellent, so at 1.5 hours i'm burning 1500calories?

    Thanks for posting that link, i shall go over and take a look.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Edit: Forgot to mention, this isn't my only training per day, i also have a border collie (farm bred both parents working dogs) and he requires a lot of excercise, i've been taking him out accross country on my MTB after training on the road bike in the mornings, take about 45 minutes, and i've just come back from a family bike ride this evening, with my daughter on a pull along trike on the back of my MTB, did about 5 miles round trip.
  • Soni wrote:
    pedylan wrote:
    There are various exercise calculators on the net. Try this one

    http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

    You can select your exercise, weight, speed and time or do it by distance.

    Assuming you are maintaining your effort at 16mph which is the speed during your training sessions, you will expend 1000cal/h at 100kg body weight.

    The algorithm used on this website calculator seems similar to my Polar HRM, Ergo turbo trainer and various gym equipment i.e. for the same effort/distance/speed I get very similar calorie use data.

    Either way, three takeaways a week will take a bit of cycling off........

    Hi mate, 1000cal/hour, that sounds excellent, so at 1.5 hours i'm burning 1500calories?

    Thanks for posting that link, i shall go over and take a look.
    I think that the calorie count quoted is very optimistic.

    1000 cal/hr ~= 280 watts at the cranks. If you were pushing 280 watts, you'd be going a fair bit faster than 16mph. I could believe the 16mph if you were going up a constant 2% grade, but not if overall it's flatter terrain.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Soni wrote:
    pedylan wrote:
    There are various exercise calculators on the net. Try this one

    http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php

    You can select your exercise, weight, speed and time or do it by distance.

    Assuming you are maintaining your effort at 16mph which is the speed during your training sessions, you will expend 1000cal/h at 100kg body weight.

    The algorithm used on this website calculator seems similar to my Polar HRM, Ergo turbo trainer and various gym equipment i.e. for the same effort/distance/speed I get very similar calorie use data.

    Either way, three takeaways a week will take a bit of cycling off........

    Hi mate, 1000cal/hour, that sounds excellent, so at 1.5 hours i'm burning 1500calories?

    Thanks for posting that link, i shall go over and take a look.
    I think that the calorie count quoted is very optimistic.

    1000 cal/hr ~= 280 watts at the cranks. If you were pushing 280 watts, you'd be going a fair bit faster than 16mph. I could believe the 16mph if you were going up a constant 2% grade, but not if overall it's flatter terrain.

    I live in a very hilly area, the North Downs are all hills up and down....
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
    I would.
  • I am slightly lighter than you 95kgs...and for me to burn 1250KJ per hour (roughly 1250Kcal) I have to av 340+ watts and on rolling terrain thats is an average speed of over 23mph.
    I only know because thats what I did on Thursday's training ride... 1000kcal per hour is riding pretty hard.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
    I would.

    OK, so how many calories would 'you' say it would burn?
  • Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
    I would.

    OK, so how many calories would 'you' say it would burn?
    800
  • Edwin
    Edwin Posts: 785
    I'm not qualified to estimate how many calories you are using, although 800 sounds like a reasonable figure.
    I do however have a radical suggestion, which is to not eat take-aways in the first place, then you could worry less about how many calories you are buring off. Sorry if that sounds sarcastic!
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
    I would.

    OK, so how many calories would 'you' say it would burn?
    800

    Even 800 calories i would be happy with, as thats without all the other calories required for day to day living and body functioning etc., therefore on 1500 calories (the good days) i'm definetely in calorie deficit mode....
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Edwin wrote:
    I'm not qualified to estimate how many calories you are using, although 800 sounds like a reasonable figure.
    I do however have a radical suggestion, which is to not eat take-aways in the first place, then you could worry less about how many calories you are buring off. Sorry if that sounds sarcastic!

    Not sarcastic, you are right, however i do like food!

    However, since i've been training and eating right (for the most part) i had my first Indian last Thursday which is the first i had for a long time, and i couldn't believe the aftertaste.....my Mrs said it may be where i've been eating clean for a while, as she had the same as me and didn't notice anything wrong with it, and the following morning my stomach felt terrible, and i thought - no more, thats Indian finished with, thats why i went for the Chinese instead on the Friday and Saturday :lol:
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Takeaways will be the death of you.

    if you insist on eating crap food - consider making it yourself. I also LOVE to eat, but rarely (as in almost NEVER) will get take away food. They don't prepare it with any thought to how healthy it is.

    Make it yourself and not only can you possibly eat more of it, but it will better for you.

    I don't doubt you've lost a lot of weight as I've been through the same thing myself and know how fast it can come off. It WILL slow down at some point (and probably sooner rather than later) as your body adjusts. You're currently losing around a pound a day. I did that for 3 months and dropped 6 stone - but it got considerable harder at the end.

    Look at around 600 calories an hour burned for medium to rigorous cycling. So an hour and a half will burn around 900 calories (minus 300 calories that you would have burned just by sitting around gives you an additional loss of 600 calories).
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,168
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Also, if you look at the 24 miles in 1.5 hours, thats an average of around 16 miles per hour for 90 minutes, i would hardly say that wouldn't burn any calories....
    I would.

    But you must know that's pony. Otherwise if I did 96 miles in 6 hours, that also would burn no calories, and I would not need to replace any energy.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    The amount of weight he is losing is clearly down to starving, not cycling.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    The amount of weight he is losing is clearly down to starving, not cycling.

    So, lets look at this a little more clearly then shall we.

    You 'believe' that cycling for 90 minutes at 16 mph burns NO calories.....

    You 'believe' that the weight lost is due to me starving myself and has nothing to do with cycling......

    Therefore, according to you, reducing calorie intake and excercising at a low intensity aerobic level for a sustained period of 90 minutes does nothing to aid weight loss!

    Maybe we should tell all of the dieticians and personal trainers out there that they are all wrong and they need to consult you for re-education!

    I'm sorry but you really are talking the smelly stuff here.

    I'm unable to type anymore due to not having enough energy as i've been starving myself :lol:
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Pokerface wrote:
    Takeaways will be the death of you.

    if you insist on eating crap food - consider making it yourself. I also LOVE to eat, but rarely (as in almost NEVER) will get take away food. They don't prepare it with any thought to how healthy it is.

    Make it yourself and not only can you possibly eat more of it, but it will better for you.

    I don't doubt you've lost a lot of weight as I've been through the same thing myself and know how fast it can come off. It WILL slow down at some point (and probably sooner rather than later) as your body adjusts. You're currently losing around a pound a day. I did that for 3 months and dropped 6 stone - but it got considerable harder at the end.

    Look at around 600 calories an hour burned for medium to rigorous cycling. So an hour and a half will burn around 900 calories (minus 300 calories that you would have burned just by sitting around gives you an additional loss of 600 calories).

    I was talking to a mate at work the other day, he hardly ever eats takeaways, he prepares everything himself and loves cooking, however he certainly isn't in shape by any stretch of the imagination.

    However, he was telling me that he is going through a phase of making his own curries, and he claims they are absolutely beautiful, and he likes the idea of knowing what goes in the.

    I'm going to leave it a couple more weeks until i loose a bit more weight and then start experimenting with home made curries myself, as i'm a great lover of curries! :)
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    The amount of weight he is losing is clearly down to starving, not cycling.

    So, lets look at this a little more clearly then shall we.

    You 'believe' that cycling for 90 minutes at 16 mph burns NO calories.....

    You 'believe' that the weight lost is due to me starving myself and has nothing to do with cycling......

    Therefore, according to you, reducing calorie intake and excercising at a low intensity aerobic level for a sustained period of 90 minutes does nothing to aid weight loss!

    Maybe we should tell all of the dieticians and personal trainers out there that they are all wrong and they need to consult you for re-education!

    I'm sorry but you really are talking the smelly stuff here.

    I'm unable to type anymore due to not having enough energy as i've been starving myself :lol:
    what are you talking about? You are riding 7 hours a week, hardly a significant amount, pretty low for a serious rider. Of course it's down to you eating a low amount, 1500 calories a day is very very low.

    Obviously riding burns calories (even sleeping burns calories), but with the amount you are losing, clearly it's not from the cycling, otherwise everyone who rides 7 or more hours a week (which is a lot of people) would all be skinny as a rake.

    Did you ditch clipless in the end?
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    edited June 2009
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    The amount of weight he is losing is clearly down to starving, not cycling.

    So, lets look at this a little more clearly then shall we.

    You 'believe' that cycling for 90 minutes at 16 mph burns NO calories.....

    You 'believe' that the weight lost is due to me starving myself and has nothing to do with cycling......

    Therefore, according to you, reducing calorie intake and excercising at a low intensity aerobic level for a sustained period of 90 minutes does nothing to aid weight loss!

    Maybe we should tell all of the dieticians and personal trainers out there that they are all wrong and they need to consult you for re-education!

    I'm sorry but you really are talking the smelly stuff here.

    I'm unable to type anymore due to not having enough energy as i've been starving myself :lol:
    what are you talking about? You are riding 7 hours a week, hardly a significant amount, pretty low for a serious rider. Of course it's down to you eating a low amount, 1500 calories a day is very very low.

    Obviously riding burns calories (even sleeping burns calories), but with the amount you are losing, clearly it's not from the cycling, otherwise everyone who rides 7 or more hours a week (which is a lot of people) would all be skinny as a rake.

    Did you ditch clipless in the end?

    But who says i'm a serious rider???

    Also, its actually a lot more than most people do in the gym per week. Some may only go 3 times per week, spending 30 minutes to 1 hour, are you saying they are also not benefiting from their training? And the weight loss they achieve will only be due to them starving themselves?

    Obviously to loose weight, you need to burn more calories than you are consuming, and this is achieved by excercising and also reducing your calorie intake.

    There is little point in consuming 5000 calories per day and having to ride 10hrs per day to burn it off is there? The most logical thing would be to reduce the calorie intake and up the excercise, which is exactly what i am doing.

    The greatest health benefits for the cardiovascular system and also weight loss/management is Aerobic respiration/excercise, which i'm sure you are probably aware is achieved by maintaining a heart rate of between 65% (low intensity) and 85% (high intensity) of your maximum heart rate for a period greater than 20 minutes. Anything over 20 minutes is burning fat! FACT!

    So i honestly do not understand where you are coming from with your ludicrous claims.

    I'm not trying to be awkward here :) , maybe i'm missing something? :?

    EDIT: Corrected typographical error - Anaerobic - Aerobic...
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    Infamous wrote:
    The amount of weight he is losing is clearly down to starving, not cycling.

    So, lets look at this a little more clearly then shall we.

    You 'believe' that cycling for 90 minutes at 16 mph burns NO calories.....

    You 'believe' that the weight lost is due to me starving myself and has nothing to do with cycling......

    Therefore, according to you, reducing calorie intake and excercising at a low intensity aerobic level for a sustained period of 90 minutes does nothing to aid weight loss!

    Maybe we should tell all of the dieticians and personal trainers out there that they are all wrong and they need to consult you for re-education!

    I'm sorry but you really are talking the smelly stuff here.

    I'm unable to type anymore due to not having enough energy as i've been starving myself :lol:

    Did you ditch clipless in the end?

    No i stuck with the pedals in the end and i've got used to them, took some time though!
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Soni wrote:
    There is little point in consuming 5000 calories per day and having to ride 10hrs per day to burn it off is there?
    By doing this you will get fitter/faster which to a lot of cyclists is much more important than losing weight, often losing weight is merely a bonus. This is a training forum, not weight loss forum.
  • Soni
    Soni Posts: 1,217
    Infamous wrote:
    Soni wrote:
    There is little point in consuming 5000 calories per day and having to ride 10hrs per day to burn it off is there?
    By doing this you will get fitter/faster which to a lot of cyclists is much more important than losing weight, often losing weight is merely a bonus. This is a training forum, not weight loss forum.

    And weight loss has nothing to do with training then i suppose.....
  • 7 hours of cycling a week is a lot compared to 99% of the population. The fact the cyclists on here might do that in a day is irrelevant to how much weight lost can be achieved by someone nowhere near that level of fitness. Lots of people struggle to do 10 miles on a bike.

    My Mum has lost a lot of weight recently, and that has involved going to the gym and jogging for 5 minutes (amoungst other things, but that is the most she can manage running). But she hasn't changed her diet, it's all down to the excercise.

    I congratulate you on your weight lost Soni (but i imagine it continue to go down at that rate!).
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