Box Hill Challenge 2009

batch78

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
The Emu......................86kg.......8.28......Feb........Sportive
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
GBS............................85 kg.......9:06......Apr........Ageing newbie
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Went out this evening and 17 second improvement, felt a lot quicker but that'll do.

No other riders on the climb, I'm sure it would help to have people to chase, looking for another 30 seconds by the end of the year. Hmmm maybe a new bike is required. :idea:

The emu

Shaved almost half a minute off my PB today, and after 90Ks of climbing before hand.


Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
The Emu......................86kg.......8.00......Feb........Also training for Fray Bentos (although not showing)
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
GBS............................85 kg.......9:06......Apr........Ageing newbie
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

mick_cornick

Did it in 4mins 5secs, then realized I was going down hill!!!!!!!!!

frenchfighter

First time I have ridden Box Hill. A few observations: the view over the plain is superb, the hairpins are novel and the road surface is terrible. The route out from Crystal Palace is pretty bad so I wont be going there again any time soon. Was tempted to give it another shot but thought there would be no chance of bettering it.

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
The Emu......................86kg.......8.00......Feb........Also training for Fray Bentos (although not showing)
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
GBS............................85 kg.......9:06......Apr........Ageing newbie
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Art Vandelay

frenchfighter, great time 8) If you go out via Streatham and Mitcham it's not a bad ride after that. I do this sort of route for a quick run out there but you can make it more picturesque:
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Tooting-to-Box-Hill-and-Back

frenchfighter

Thanks for that. The latter half of that route is what I did and it was ok'ish. The worst part was through Purley and Slesdon - some pretty unpleasant drivers out today.

What is the Fray Bentos by the way?

Art Vandelay

http://www.quebrantahuesos.com/ It's just easier to say Fray Bentos after you've had a pint or two.
Purley is best avoided at all costs

frenchfighter

Ok - a bit like the French Etape Ride then as far as I can see. There was someone on the Sunday club ride I was on this weekend just gone who was preparing for that I think.

maryka

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
The Emu......................86kg.......8.00......Feb........Also training for Fray Bentos (although not showing)
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
GBS............................85 kg.......9:06......Apr........Ageing newbie
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Haven't had a proper go at this since April before I got my powertap, so today was a good test for current baseline numbers. 281 watts (both average and normative, what a steady ride I had!), knocked 40 seconds off my previous best and felt better than I ever have when I've gone hard up Boxhill. Usually I die on the 3rd leg just as it goes into the trees but today I actually got better there. I recently lowered my stem about 2cm so I think that helped me get a bit more aero too. And a 1kg weight loss since last time can't have hurt either!

RedGreenBaron

Rich-Ti wrote:

A pretty satisfying attempt this evening - took a minute out of my previous best!:
Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive

Well done Rich. Must have felt flat after Hardknott. Had you done a proper hills ride before?

Myk-ee

Good conditions today: little wind and not too warm.

7:31, so 5 seconds shy of my PB but I'll gladly take those consistency points..

Some quick times are being posted now which is good to see.

gbs

maryka wrote:

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
The Emu......................86kg.......8.00......Feb........Also training for Fray Bentos (although not showing)
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

At last I had the patience to start slowly and so finished strong (well strong in my terms). 18 sec improvement. Any other OAPs doing this?

gbs

whilst idling around google I noticed this possible steep variant.

From A24/25 junction head E and after 1k turn N. Bikehike says distance up to Box Hill Road (by the pub) is 2.8k with 165 m vertical; lookout - there is a 20% pitch in the first kilometer.

Does anyone know the road condition?

jibberjim

gbs wrote:

whilst idling around google I noticed this possible steep variant.

From A24/25 junction head E and after 1k turn N. Bikehike says distance up to Box Hill Road (by the pub) is 2.8k with 165 m vertical; lookout - there is a 20% pitch in the first kilometer.

Does anyone know the road condition?

It's a footpath basically. Not sure why it's on google as a road!

jrduquemin

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
The Emu......................86kg.......8.00......Feb........Also training for Fray Bentos (although not showing)
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

The emu

Superb effort Julian!

With all these times tumbling around me I felt compelled to head out and try my new dinner plate cassette today in readiness for next weeks big ride, and give Box Hill a nudge at the same time.

First Attempt: 7:39 (as fast as I could go and PB )
Second Attempt: 9:00 (Similar gearing but took it easy)
Third Attempt: 10:15 (Spun up on my Dinner Plate but importantly didn't even break a sweat :oops: )

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

jrduquemin

Brilliant effort too Wilf :-)

I hope this stands you in good stead for the Fray Bentos. Good luck to you and the rest of the guys going over there...

gbs

The emu wrote:

First Attempt: 7:39 (as fast as I could go and PB )
Second Attempt: 9:00 (Similar gearing but took it easy)
Third Attempt: 10:15 (Spun up on my Dinner Plate but importantly didn't even break a sweat :oops: )

So, how big is this dinner plate and the chainwheel and what did you use for yr PB effort?

I have for the moment settled on 34/25 or 22 as the optimum for Box Hill but I am always interested to know how others attack the problem.

Berns12

Although nothing to really trouble the time keepers or shake fear to those top of the list. finally broke the 8min barrier right in time for the Quebrantaheusos/Fray Bentos. The Somport and Marie Blanque can kiss my a$$


Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

jrduquemin

Good effort Bernard :-)

Berns12

jrduquemin wrote:

Good effort Bernard :-)

Not too bad yourself. Great to see you improving week by week proof some of the best climbers are MTBs

Looks like after your PB effort on Box Hill, Ditchling Beacon will be a walk in the park for you next weekend. Good luck with the Brighton ride mate. I will be thinking of you passed out with a San Mig in hand on the Sunday after the Fray!

See you in a fortnight.

NWLondoner

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Funkin ........................78kg........7.05......May........Tri
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
NWLondoner...............63kg........11ish....June.....Newbie/F Knacker
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Hmm not 100% precise timing. My 1st time and forgot to hit the lap button at the start and end :roll: But going by my GPS data it tends to suggest between 10-12 minutes so i'll split the difference I hope to give it ago again in the next couple of weeks so will get a better time (i hope)

jrduquemin

Berns12 wrote:

jrduquemin wrote:

Good effort Bernard :-)

Not too bad yourself. Great to see you improving week by week proof some of the best climbers are MTBs

Looks like after your PB effort on Box Hill, Ditchling Beacon will be a walk in the park for you next weekend. Good luck with the Brighton ride mate. I will be thinking of you passed out with a San Mig in hand on the Sunday after the Fray!

See you in a fortnight.

Believe it or not, I've not ridden my mountain bike for over 2 months now :-) The imrpovements in my fitness have come purely from hitting the road. I'll find out how good my technical ability is when I go to VallNord bike park in Andorra in a fortnight. Looking forward to giving the Enduro a pasting :-D

funkin

7:05 a couple of weeks ago, and a 6:52 today. Very happy with that.

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Funkin ........................78kg........6.52......Jun........Tri
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
NWLondoner...............63kg........11ish....June.....Newbie/F Knacker
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

weapons

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
Red GT.......................77kg........6:25......May.......Sportive
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Weapons..................64kg........6.38.....June.......Rower/part time cyclist
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Funkin ........................78kg........6.52......Jun........Tri
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
NWLondoner...............63kg........11ish....June.....Newbie/F Knacker
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Red GT

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Red GT.......................77kg........6:11......June.......Sportive
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Weapons..................64kg........6.38.....June.......Rower/part time cyclist
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Funkin ........................78kg........6.52......Jun........Tri
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
NWLondoner...............63kg........11ish....June.....Newbie/F Knacker
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting

Great day for it - I just wanted to get to the front of the queue for the coffee and cake!!

Mad One

Red GT wrote:

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Red GT.......................77kg........6:11......June.......Sportive
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive

NOOOOOooooooooo!!!!
Well done Red - I'm gonna have to get myself back up there by the look of it!

frenchfighter

Knocked out the top 5! This calls for a trip there in July...

Red GT

I was having a ‘good legs’ day, I had a go in May and felt like I put a lot more in but got nowhere near improving. Now having joined the top five I can now watch myself side down the table again until I’m forced to go back to the Box.

It’s getting to the point that I don’t know if I’m training for sportives by taking on Box Hill or training for Box Hill by taking on sportives!

greasygrinder

Name..........................Weight....Time.....Month.....TOR
KingstonWheeler.......66kg........6.01......Apr........2nd cat, nul points
naked_ollie.................76kg........6.06......May.......Fitness/Fun
JonGinge...................65kg.........6.07......May........Wannabe 4th cat
Red GT.......................77kg........6:11......June.......Sportive
Mad One....................87kg........6.14.......May........Sportive
Frenchfighter.............68kg........6.16.......June.......Training/Joy
JibberJim....................76kg........6.21.......May........Goaless Cat4
Toks...........................72kg........6.23......May........2nd cat vet
Dave_c.......................64kg........6:24......May.......SS 46x16
mark_d.......................60kg........6.31......Mar........Skinny rouleur
voxegam.....................68kg.......6.32......Apr........Uni student
MatHammond..............85kg........6.32......Apr........Leisure
CJCP...........................80kg........6.34......May.......Commuter/Sportive
Art Vandelay..............76kg........6.36......May.......Getting ready for the Fray Bentos
maryka......................53kg........6.38.....June.....cat 3/Ironman
Weapons..................64kg........6.38.....June.......Rower/part time cyclist
Chrisw28....................79kg.......6.42......Apr.........Lazy student
Genki...........................74kg.......6:43......Apr.........Cat3 and Sportive
andyp..........................72kg........6:46......Mar........Sportive
Zav..............................86kg.......6:49..... May.........Bike enthusiast
Funkin ........................78kg........6.52......Jun........Tri
Felgen.........................96kgs......6.56.....Apr.........Cat4 *ahem*/'leisure'
Jashburnham..............75kg........6.57.....May.........Commuter/Sportive
pinkbikini......................85kg.......7.02......Mar.........3rdCat/sportive
Paddifer.......................62kg.......7.02......Apr.........Triathlon
Phips ..........................64kg.......7:06......Mar.........Sportive
Rich-Ti........................82kg........7:16......May........Sportive
J09..............................60kg.......7:22......May.........Anything with pedals
RedGreenBaron..........70kg.......7.23......Feb.........Sportive
Myk-ee........................82kg.......7:26......May........Sportive
Fuji-Mackers . ............78kgs......7.30..... Feb.........Sportive
thebongolian...............75kg........7:35......Mar.........Sportive / commuter
Berns12......................68kg.......7.39......June........Sportive/Fellow Fray Bentos
The Emu......................86kg.......7.39......Jun..........As ready as I'll ever be for Fray Bentos
ollie cb........................59kg........7.42......May........Fitness
Homercles..................93kg........7.51......Mar.........Sportive
jrduquemin.................72kg........7.57.....June.........Sportive/fitness
Batch78......................92kg ish...7.59.....May.......Fun!
KingstonGraham........74kg........8.02......Apr........Tri/Sportive
Christophe3967..........90kg........8.12.....May.........Sportive
MkyDPky.....................80kg.......8.22.......May.......Beginner
Greasy Grinder...........77kg.......8.40.......June........Beginner
Jonathan V ................77kg.......8.43.......Apr..........Sportive
GBS.............................85kg......8.48.......June.......Aging newbie
Cumulonimbus............85kg.......8.50.......May........Fitness
M Cornick....................71kg.......8.50......Apr.........Better
Steve-M......................78kg........9.13......Mar.......Commute/Social
London-Red................85kg........9.21......Feb.......Fitness
Urrrrrrrs...................... N/A........ 9.29 .....Apr.......Elite/F Knacker
M Cornick....................71kg........9.30......Apr.......Crap!
NWLondoner...............63kg........11ish....June.....Newbie/F Knacker
AaaBaa......................64kg.......13.30.....Apr.......ex-Basque, restarting